“Aliens” in the Book of Revelation?! [Older, expanded, online-only] Part 2

Chapter Thirteen – Timeline of Demons and Fallen Angels from the Present to the Future
 Prophecy and Revelation (Part 2)

In the last chapter, I presented reasons why I think and believe that the “3 evil spirits that looked like frogs” from Revelation 16, are 3 gray aliens. If it is the case that what John saw in Revelation was 3 demons in the bodies of 3 gray aliens, what does it mean prophetically? And how would this work?

Among all the visible paranormal activities that are going on today, including ghosts, fairies, Bigfoot, orbs, and many others, it is the Alien phenomenon which stands out as unique. Out of all the activities of demons and fallen angels today, it is the alien phenomenon that is mentioned in the book of Revelation, showing great Biblical prophetic significance.

The events in the book of Revelation will truly come to pass, and as such it is important for Christians in the future to remain alert and try to be aware of what is going on in the world around them, as the prophecy is taking place. Christians today also need to be aware of what is going on around them and taking place in the world, as the events of today are preparatory for the events of tomorrow.

I would bet that you the reader has seen the image of a “gray alien” before. This image is common in today’s culture. “Gray aliens” are featured in movies, television shows, books, and on advertisements in print. Worldwide, there are self-accounts of people being “abducted” by these creatures. The phenomenon is closely tied to people claiming to have seen UFOs, Unidentified Flying Objects, which are said to be hard to identify because they look or move in a way which seems impossible by known modern human technology. In short, people who are educated as to modern technology don’t know of any aircraft that humans have which can do the things these UFOs do. These “gray aliens” are commonly associated with these UFOs, because they sometimes have been seen by people with or on these UFOs, in flight or sometimes on the ground. People who have had an “abduction” experience, called “abductees”, often claim that they have been taken aboard a UFO, or have woken up inside what appeared to be a spaceship as they could see stars or planets through a window in the ship. Likely you the reader have heard of or seen something in a movie or on TV, or in a book, which portrays something like this happening, as many entertainment pieces have now been based off of the accounts of these “abductees”.

In this paranormal or supernatural phenomenon, indeed the accounts of abductees is all the data we have to draw from in determining what has been taking place. Here is a summary drawn from books and videos I’ve studied on the subject:

Many abductees reported being forcibly sexually molested during these abductions, and forced to undergo painful procedures that seem somewhat medical in nature. There are accounts of children, even of preschool age, being abducted, and attacked in these ways. Abductees often report feeling paralyzed during these experiences. Many abductees report that their sperm or ova have been painfully removed from their body. Some abductees even report being pregnant, and the child being removed from their uterus. Some abductees report seeing strange hybrid babies and children, which look like a cross between a human and a gray alien. The “gray aliens” tell the abductees that these are their own children. Abductees sometimes have scars, cuts or bruises after the abductions are over.

Some things about “gray aliens” are even more alarming, in a spiritual sense. One is that many abductees report that the “gray aliens” tell them they are special and have been chosen for a mission of some sort. Often these missions either involve playing a special role during a coming time of crises, or in spreading the news to other people that the “gray aliens” are here to help. “Gray aliens” tell the abductees that they are here to help mankind, they claim knowledge of cataclysmic events to come in the future from which we will need their help. “Gray aliens” claim they are from another solar system or another planet, usually one or another in the Orion Nebula [1], and some reports that say they are from another dimension or time have also been made. The most incredible thing is that the “gray aliens” also claim to have taken part in the evolution of mankind, and also claim they created mankind. Some say they altered the DNA of primates to produce humans, others say they planted life here on Earth and prior which there was no life on Earth. In both cases the “gray aliens” talk of the theory of evolution as if it were a fact. (This idea of life on Earth having evolved from life planted here from somewhere else is known as “panspermia” or “exogenesis”.) The “gray aliens” say they have been here repeatedly throughout mankind’s past, citing polytheistic mythologies, and OT visions of prophets of the Lord God, as recording some of their earlier activities. Some “gray aliens” have even claimed that Jesus Himself was a “hybrid alien” fathered by them. [2]

The gray aliens also say they are more spiritually advanced than us, and claim they can help us in spiritual growth. Most of the time this growth involves psychic powers, telepathy, telekinesis, and ways in which to see the future. The “gray aliens” describe themselves as spiritually more advanced, having paranormal or supernatural powers, and oftentimes the result is that their abduction victims come to view them in a way as being like “gods”, whom they look to for guidance, and take a worshipful attitude towards. The “gray aliens” have so convinced some of the abduction victims of their story that they are here to help, that the abductees willingly choose to take on a role of service to the “gray aliens”, despite the sometimes painful abductions and violations that they have suffered at the hands of the “gray aliens”.

Many people have made a study of UFOs and aliens in a serious and even academic manner. In summary, they seem to generally conclude that there is some tie between aliens, UFOs, and many world governments. As far as civilians have been able to research these things, the evidence they have points to many world governments as having some level of knowledge of aliens and UFOs. They say this is a knowledge that is kept “Top Secret”, and tied to the military branches of government.

Regarding theUSgovernment, there is much speculation that in the USA the elected government officials, such as the members of Congress and the President, do not have a high enough security access to even be allowed to know the details of this “Top Secret” information. Of posed is the question of just how much influence the American people have over the running of their own government, if the people they elect to run things are not allowed this “Top Secret” information. Researchers speculate that if this is the case, it would seem that a “Shadow Government” organization of some sort, with authoritative power, is pulling many of the strings of the elected government which lacks that authoritative power. Other people suggest that some elected officials do have knowledge of this “Top Secret” information, but belong to secret cultish societies, of a satanic nature, and as such refuse to share this information they have on UFOs and aliens, due to allegiance to these secret societies and oaths of secrecy that they have taken. There is much speculation on why theUSgovernment in particular does not share its knowledge or involvement with UFOs and aliens.

However, what is not speculative in any way is that theUSgovernment and military do have knowledge of UFOs. There is real and indisputable evidence, gathered under the Freedom of Information Act, that the military does have awareness and knowledge about UFOs. Probably the most startling case I have read is that in the 1960s, UFOs hovered near a nuclear missile silo, and somehow turned off the facility and the nuclear missiles. (Individuals involved in the event, no longer in military service, have indeed gone on record and spoken publicly in conference settings about what they witnessed during this event. [3]) I think it is clear that with an event like that happening, the government and military have then and since taken the subject of UFOs and aliens seriously, yet the information they have has not been made public. There is really no other conclusion that makes any sense, in light of the reality of this event, which surely would have been taken as a serious potential threat. [4]

Because of the secrecy of this “Shadow Government,” there is little hard evidence to go on, but from what evidence there is, the researchers in this field seem to conclude that the US government has either received teaching on technology from the “gray aliens”, or have been given some technology by them in order to learn about it hand-on. One way or the other, some UFOs today are claimed to be “Top Secret” military aircraft, with abilities that suggest antigravity propulsion of some kind. There seems to be reason to think the military acquired this technology from “gray aliens” rather than that they developed it through purely normal scientific research and experimental methodology. Indeed, the earliest records of UFOs in modern times are from the 1890s. [5] This was long before anyone could have considered UFOs to have even possibly been man-made. It therefore makes sense that if some UFOs today are “Top Secret” man-made aircraft, that the technology might likely have been acquired from whoever had this technology in the 1890s; the “gray aliens”.

So while some UFOs people have seen are thought to be driven by aliens, today others are thought to be man-made (with alien guidance) and driven by human pilots, and are of a “Top Secret” military nature. Though much of what I’ve read has been centered on a US “Shadow Government”, the same activities could be taking place among other world governments or world “shadow governments”.

If this is the case, then it would seem that there are people in some sort of government over the government, a “shadow government”, which may have had some contact with the “gray aliens” themselves. It is unknown if the shadow government is working with them in a planned way. It would seem reasonable that the “shadow government”, if in contact with the “gray aliens”, would be told the same kinds of things that the “abductees” have been told. It is unknown if the shadow government believes the claims of the “gray aliens”, that they are from another planet, that they are spiritually advanced, that they are here to help us. All we really know, is that compared to the hard evidence that the US government knew some UFOs disarmed their nuclear missiles, the response of the government has been to deny the reality of UFOs to the public. This makes no sense, and clearly indicates the government and military has a secret, a secret response to UFOs- which they will not share with the public. And there is some evidence to think that this secret is not just of a response to a potential threat, but by now is also a secret involvement with the “gray aliens”. There is reason to think, with all seriousness, that the US has a shadow government, which not only has knowledge of the reality of UFOs and aliens, but also is involved with them in a cooperative sense. The same might be concluded of other world governments. (I apologize for my USA-centricism, but I do live there and much of the research I’ve studied has been USA-centric.)

In light of this information on the current world situation, let’s look again at the key verses in the book of Revelation.

Rev 16:12-16 “The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.”

Jesus says “Behold, I come like a thief! Blessed is he who stays awake and keeps his clothes with him, so that he may not go naked and be shamefully exposed.” 

Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.

These scriptures may indicate that 3 gray aliens will someday gather the kings of the entire world together before Jesus returns, for the great battle of Armageddon. Not only that, but these gray aliens will gather the kings for the battle before Jesus has returned, in preparation for His return.

How could present information on UFOs and “gray aliens” be extrapolated from in order for this foretold event to take place? We are at point A, which I have described above. We know what point B is, as it is described in Revelation. So how would things have to go in the unfolding of events, in order for the world to move from point A to point B?

As you are likely aware, today the theory of evolution is taught in schools as a fact. Though I do not believe in the validity of this theory whatsoever, some people do, even Christians do who believe in “guided evolution”. Whether you don’t believe in evolution, or you believe in guided evolution, I think any Christian could arrive at the same conclusion on this matter involving “gray aliens”. We were created by the Lord God, and even if that creation did theoretically involve guided evolution, it was a process guided by the Lord God. We were not created by “gray aliens”, nor was our “evolution guided” by gray aliens. The Lord God alone is our creator, even in the theoretical context of guided evolution.

Today evolution is taught as fact. The idea that life that evolved on Earth came from life that evolved somewhere else, called panspermia or exogenesis, is becoming a more popular concept in recent years. As much as believing in evolution is a matter of faith… or as much as believing in guided evolution verses random-chance evolution is a matter of faith for some people, panspermia is also a matter of faith. What if someday people were told by reliable sources, such as the government or mainstream media, that “gray aliens” were real and from another planet in another solar system? What if someday people were told by reliable sources that the “gray aliens” had said they guided the evolution of mankind, or were the ones who originally brought life to the Earth from another place? If this were the case, many people would believe it. Many people would take on faith that “gray aliens” were the closest thing we had to “creators” within the concept of the theory of evolution. Instead of even the idea that the Lord God guided the evolution of man, the statement of the “gray aliens” would challenge that they were the ones who guided our evolution. This is what these “gray aliens” are already telling abductees in present times, and some abductees view them as “gods”. What if the “gray aliens” revealed their presence to the entire world, and told the entire world they put life on earth, and guided its evolution? Much of the world would believe them, and come to view them as the “creators”, the “gods”, of humanity. And this is one reason why people might follow them to war at the battle of Armageddon. These events I’ve described would be one way to get from the present point A to the future Revelation point B.

If people believed the lies of these “gray aliens”, they would follow them to battle, especially if they believed the grays were our friends or protectors. The “gray aliens” might tell people that a warring alien race was coming to invade or destroy the Earth, and that they would be here soon, so all the people must prepare for battle. They might even name Jesus, and say He is another alien that they don’t get along with, coming to destroy the earth or try to take over, so everyone needs to defend themselves and the planet Earth from Him. Whatever the “gray aliens” would tell people, they convince them to gather for battle before Jesus has returned, so they have prepared the people for war by telling the people that something is arriving that they, the whole earth, must fight against for some reason.  Somehow, to these lost people, the “gray aliens” will have them convinced that they are gathering to fight a bad guy who is coming, rather than telling them the Savior of the world, Jesus Christ, is returning. It is possible, as we know that Satan quotes the Bible, that the book of Revelation itself might be twisted. The book of Revelation might be twisted in such a way that the “gray aliens” teach it is a tale of the future- but of an evil alien overlord’s plans to conquer earth in the future. Who knows what evil things they might say about the Lord Jesus, and how they might twist things. People, especially those without the Truth, will read into things what they want to see, and what their prejudices cause them to expect to see, it happens all the time. Without the light of Truth, who is the Lord Jesus Christ, people cannot see, and walk in darkness. Even if they see events unfolding before their eyes, foretold thousands of years ago, by The Son of God Jesus the Christ, the Savior of the World, they still may not see them clearly. The Lord God help them, that they may repent, and call on the name of Jesus, and be saved.

Back to the 3 evil spirits that look like frogs, the “gray aliens” of modern times. There is something else that will have to take place between the present and the time of Revelation. There is something else which would have to change.

As I have described in earlier chapters on physics, it is entirely possible that alien abductions today could be perpetrated by fallen angels. They are capable of causing people visions, of causing apparitions, that would entirely explain alien abductions. They also could appear as “gray aliens” to speak to people within the government, and then leave. A fallen angel can so manipulate people that one fallen angel could apparate as several “aliens”, and as several UFOs, all at once. That is no doubt the current case. Current alien abductions and encounters are without a doubt caused by fallen angels, apparating as aliens. Whatever UFOs that people encounter that are not man-made, also are caused by fallen angel apparitions. And fallen angels could deceive those in the government, or the shadow government, just as well as they could an abductee, a civilian in isolation.

In fact, that fallen angels are responsible for modern “gray alien” and alien encounters has been proven from a Christian perspective.

Several Christian researchers have found that “alien abductions” will stop cold in the name of Jesus Christ. The most notable among these are Joe Jordan, a MUFON researcher who has over 75 documented cases of the name of Jesus stopping abduction on his website; Pastor Chris Ward a deliverance/exorcism minister who found the same thing with those he was counseling for deliverance, and Guy Malone, a former abductee since childhood who shares his testimony that he has been set free from abductions happening in his life, by the name and power of Jesus Christ. (See Resources in Appendix for more information.)

An abductee will not only have that particular abduction stop cold in the name of Jesus Christ, but also abductees that trust in Jesus to help them and call on him, also have abductions terminated as a life pattern.

It makes total sense that these “alien” encounters are caused by fallen angels, that the “aliens” are fallen angels, when you understand that the aliens and the ship will just disappear before the abductee, and they will find themselves back where they started, when they call on Jesus for help. This is a spiritual warfare matter. This Christian research proves that these are fallen angels (and in some cases demons also), and this research proves these are not “aliens”. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ that these abductions will stop in His name! (And I do, because I am one of those people who has experienced “alien” abduction attacks, and Jesus has set me free from the fallen angels doing that to me anymore. Praise Jesus!!!!)

And so as Christians, we know that today these experiences are being caused by fallen angels, with sometimes demons helping.

But what does the book of Revelation say will be the case in the future?

Rev 16:12-16 “The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.”

Jesus says “Behold, I come like a thief! Blessed is he who stays awake and keeps his clothes with him, so that he may not go naked and be shamefully exposed.” 

Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.

What we read here is that these are spirits of DEMONS. “They are spirits of demons”. Not fallen angels. Today physical aspects of abductions are being caused by fallen angels. Demons don’t have the bodily power to apparate like fallen angels do. Fallen angels today are the ones appearing as “gray aliens”. But in the future, we read that it is DEMONS that look like “gray aliens” who will gather the kings of the world for war. So once again, we are at point A, and in Revelation we see point B. How would things change so that we would get from point A (fallen angels apparating as “gray aliens”) to point B (demons somehow appearing in the form of “gray aliens”)?

Reviewing what we know about demons, demons are disembodied spirits of dead Nephilim. They don’t have bodies, and can’t apparate like fallen angels do. Therefore, if a demon was to appear in the form of a “gray alien”, what would have to happen? The demon would have to be inside and controlling the body of something that looked like a “gray alien”.

We know that in truth, there are no “gray aliens”. The bodies of “gray aliens” that abductees see are actually just fallen angels. So what body could a demon get inside of that looks like a “gray alien”, since no such body truly exists?

What things are there that have bodies that demons could get inside of? The only thing we know of that have bodies that demons can get inside of and control are humans, and animals. Neither humans nor any animals look exactly like a gray alien. I have a theory on the answer to this, which I will get to in a minute, but first I want to discuss a third possibility.

Some abductees claim they have seen “hybrid” children, as I mentioned earlier. And some people might be inclined to say, “a hybrid human/gray alien looks like a gray alien” and say that perhaps 3 hybrids are what is referenced to in the book of Revelation. So let’s review some information on fallen angel and human interbreeding.

Fallen angels and human women have interbred before, and the result was the giant Nephilim. They in turn mated with human women. All of those whose paternal line traced back to fallen angels were spiritually demons, and when their bodies died, they became disembodied evil spirits, and are on the earth as demons to this day. The giants whose paternal line traced back to humans were spiritually human, and when they died their souls went to the grave, and they will be resurrected on judgment day like all other humans.

All of the fallen angels who sired the Nephilim were imprisoned by God in the Abyss until the time of judgment. And God flooded the entire world, and killed everyone and all animals, except for Noah, his family, and the animals on the ark. God destroyed the world by water because all “men” (including the giants (nephilim)) were so wicked and evil. Some deteriorated DNA survived through the human women on the ark, producing a loss of longevity, and more human giants after the flood.

There are several points I would like to make. The first is that the Nephilim were giants, and generally looked like giant men. I think it is safe to guess that the fallen angels did the best job they could to have normal offspring with human women. It seems unlikely that giants was their goal. Yet that is what they got. Why couldn’t they control this? Because God is the one who creates, and God is the one who forms each life in it’s mother’s womb. While some people argue that fallen angels could produce “gray alien” looking offspring with human women today if they wanted, based on the fact that God has control over this, it seems unlikely. What seems far more likely is that fallen angels would get the same result in modern times that some of them got is pre-flood times: human looking giants. I would like to point out that Gen 6:4 is important for showing that hybridization is not taking place in present times, rather than the opposite that some Christians suggest. This is because it is a matter of God-breathed scripture that fallen angel (including one appearing as an “alien”) and human interbreeding produces Nephilim, who look like giant men…

Also, God has said that each thing will reproduce after its kind. A fallen angel in pre-flood times surely would have had to try to match DNA of human-kind VERY closely in order to get any resulting offspring whatsoever. Otherwise it would be like trying to cross a dog and a cat- they are 2 different kinds, and you cant cross them to get a hybrid. In the same way, if a fallen angel apparated as a “gray alien” with DNA that would match its external appearance as much as possible- it would be an entirely different kind than mankind. As such, the result would be no offspring at all. It simply wouldn’t work, no more than breeding a mouse and an elephant. Even humans and chimpanzees can’t interbreed, and their DNA is at least 95% similar. Even when animals of the same kind are interbred, if they are too dissimilar in variation, the offspring that results is sterile.

Some people might argue that modern technology might make some difference, and make this feat possible. My response to that is that the power and abilities that God created angels as inherently having in their bodies are far superior to any technology we have today, and any technology we ever will have. There is nothing that science or tools or technology could give fallen angels that is beyond what they are inherently already able to do. See the earlier physics chapters for more details.

Another reason modern interbreeding seems unlikely, is that any fallen angel who attempted to breed with a human today would surely be thrown in the Abyss, just like the fallen angel fathers of the Nephilim. They would be taken out of the picture, and be chained in the prison of the Abyss. And Eze 31 seems to indicate this won’t happen again (see chapter 2). One could argue that during the tribulation, the world would be about to be destroyed by fire anyway, and as such a fallen angel would risk the punishment of the Abyss. Though this is arguable, I still doubt that God would allow such a thing to happen, as it is the Lord God who forms us all in the womb, and gives the breath of life. I do not think the Lord God would allow this to happen, or go along with this.

As for the hybrids that abductees are seeing, I think they can be explained by 2 powers fallen angels have. The first is the ability of fallen angels to cause illness in the body, and affect the body. This is demonstrated in the book of Job, and would explain why the women’s bodies seem pregnant. They are not truly pregnant (at least not ever with a hybrid) but the fallen angels affect their bodies so that they feel pregnant and their body behaves as pregnant. Sometimes the body can think it is pregnant when it is not. False pregnancies can and do happen more often than people think., and this is a real documented medical condition. Besides as a result of natural flukes and illness, I think fallen angels can cause false pregnancies like this without a real living baby being involved. As for the hybrid babies and children that abductees see- they are part of Visions caused by the fallen angels, and it is just another deception. See earlier chapter on powers of Fallen angels for more detail on these powers.

Ultimately though, my conclusions I base on the scriptures. And moving on to relevant Bible verses, some Christians say that when it comes to hybrids, that these verses apply:

Mat 24:36-42 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. “For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. “For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, they were marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so shall the coming of the Son of Man be. “Then there shall be two men in the field; one will be taken, and one will be left. “Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken, and one will be left. “Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

People argue that these verses apply because of the phrases “just like the days of Noah” and “they were marrying and giving in marriage”. People say this indicates that just as in the pre-flood world, fallen angels and humans will be married and interbreeding when Jesus returns. And I do not doubt that Jesus was referencing to the perverse sin of fallen angels and humans marrying and interbreeding when He said “marrying and giving in marriage”. I believe the people Jesus was speaking to at that time were more familiar with the details of Genesis 6 than many Christians are today. A such it makes sense that Jesus would reference somewhat casually to these interbreeding events in this way. Yet all this does is to at most confirm them historically.

Yet, the point of this passage seems to clearly be that people will be continuing in their sin right up until judgment, unaware that judgment is at hand- just like the people in Noah’s time. I do not see here a prophetic significance that clearly indicates modern or future hybrids. The point of the passage is that Jesus’ return will be like the flood- unexpected. And also that people will be carrying on in daily life, and in their sin, right up until judgment is upon them. The point of the passage is to be on alert for Jesus’ return- and the point of the passage is not to indicate modern day hybrids.

Although I do want to point out a similarity between the end times when Jesus returns, and the days preceding the flood. In both cases, fallen angels were trying to effect the world in such a way so as that no one could be saved. Before the flood, the Nephilim and their paternal descendents were trying to outbreed humanity, so that eventually every person born would have a demon spirit, and would not have a human spirit which could be redeemed by Jesus and saved. In the end times, Satan will be taking a different approach. Anyone who is Christian will be killed or die for being Christian, and the world will ruled in such a way that likely no more people will come to Christ and be saved. In a world where (almost) all the Christians are dead, and everyone worships the beast, it would be a difficult time for any more lost people to come to be saved by Jesus. And so in both cases, the result is that no one else would be saved- and perhaps partially related to this fact, judgment of the world comes soon after.

There is a verse in Bible prophecy which actually does seem to try to convey a message about this hybrid subject, and is fitting in that it seems to apply to the end times, and the last kingdom of men, the kingdom of the antichrist that exists, immediately before Jesus returns. I first saw this verse used in a way to make a surface attempt to prove there would be hybrids, by some that claim this verse is applicable. But after taking a look at the Hebrew and Greek, I came to the exact opposite conclusion: this verse clearly says there will be no hybrids.

So here are 3 different translations of this verse, two from the Hebrew, and one from the Greek Septuagint.

Let’s take a close look at Daniel 2:43
“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed(6151) with miry clay, they shall mingle(6151) themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave(1693) one to another, even as iron is not mixed(6151) with clay.” Hebrew, KJV

“And in that you saw the iron mixed(6151) with common clay, they will combine(6151) with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere(1693) to one another, even as iron does not combine(6151) with pottery.” Hebrew, NASB

“Whereas thou sawest the iron mixed(4874) with earthenware, they shall be mingled(4874) with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave(4347) together, as the iron does not mix itself with earthenware.” Greek, Septuagint

The Hebrew (6151) “mingle, mix, combine” is only used here in the OT (except in Dan 2:41 as “iron mixed with clay” again), but (6151) is closely related to (6148) which means “to traffic as in barter, to give or be security as a kind of exchange” (Strong’s). It also means “have fellowship with or share in”. (BDB)

In the Greek, “mixed, mingled” are the same word (4874) in the Greek phrasing which is means to “associate with or have company with”.

In the Hebrew: “cleave, adhere” (1693) is used only here, but is related to the more usual word (1692) which is very similar, and is used in Genesis as “cleave unto his wife”.

In the Greek: cleave (4347) “pros-kollao”, is used several times in the New Testament.

Eph 5:31 “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined(4347) unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.”

Matt 19:5 “And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave(4347) to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?”

Mark 10:7 “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave(4347) to his wife”

Because this “cleaving” of man and wife might seem ambiguous as to whether sex is implied, or some more purely spiritual joining, I want to point out that the root and usual form is join (2853) “kollao”, which means “to glue, join, or fasten firmly together, to cleave”. Here are some Greek usages for (2853) “kollao” in the NT:

1 Cor 6:15-16 “Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make [them] the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined(2853) to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.”

 So “cleaving”(4347 proskollao) is equal to “joining”(2853 kollao) which means to have sex. Cleaving means sex, which may not be limited to just intercourse.

So lets just clarify and re-examine this verse in the Hebrew and the Greek, based on these words more detailed meanings.

“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed(6151) with miry clay, they shall “traffic as in barter, give or be security as a kind of exchange, have fellowship with or share in”(6151) themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not “cleave or join sexually” (1693) one to another, even as iron is not mixed(6151) with clay.” Hebrew, KJV

“Whereas thou sawest the iron mixed(4874) with earthenware, they shall “associate with or have company”(4874) with the seed of men: but they shall not “cleave or join sexually”(4347) together, as the iron does not mix itself with earthenware.” Greek, Septuagint

Let’s just assume Dan 2:43 really is talking about fallen angels in the first place, as other Christians have proposed in trying to prove the existence of hybrids. I think what Daniel really says here by “mingling” is that there will be traffic, association, fellowship, and company with fallen angels (the terms traffic, exchange, security, have the implication of mistreatment, and a violation of rights like people are objects to be trafficked in). The idea here is that the fallen angels traffic in the seed of men, but don’t join sexually with the seed of men. But what is meant by the phrase “seed of men”? That phrase can mean “the children of men”.

I’ve heard of many abduction accounts in which people have sex with aliens, besides all the accounts of sexual molestation. That being the case, how can Dan 2:43 mean that fallen angels will mingle themselves with humans, but not cleave sexually? As cleaving here means a sexual joining, then the scripture would contradict reality if the scripture was claiming that fallen angels won’t have sex with people- because they do. There are many accounts of aliens, though not typically the grays, having sex with people. And there are also many accounts of “gray aliens” sexually molesting people. As fallen angels can apparate in many forms, all these accounts are attributable to them. As such sex is taking place, and the scripture would contradict reality if “seed of men” referred to humans in general.

But I don’t think that is what the verse is saying. I think the verse is referring not to fallen angels mingling/trafficking with humans themselves, but rather, that the fallen angels are mingling/trafficking with the reproductive “seed” of men. Let’s look at the verse again:

“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed (2234) of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.” KJV

I think the word “seed” here is supposed to have an unusual meaning. As evidence for this, the word for “seed” (2234) above in Hebrew is only used here in the entire Old Testament. This is almost like God wanted the word to stick out because it required a closer look. This word is most closely related to the word “seed” (2233) which many times is used to refer simply to plant seeds, the actual reproductive genetic material of the plant. It is also used to refer to descendents. However, I think the plant seed definition fits closer to the prophetic meaning which God meant here. In this sense, I think that “seed of men” refers not to people, but to the genetic reproductive material of men and women, namely eggs and sperm.

So the only option that matches reality, case accounts, etc, is that “seed of men” must be referring to genetic material (eggs/sperm) and that fallen angels mingle (traffic) in eggs/sperm, but don’t cleave/join/glue/adhere to the eggs and sperm or simply put, there is no joining of the fallen angels with human eggs/sperm and therefore no interbreeding or hybridization. That’s the only consistent reading of this verse that I see which doesn’t contradict reality. 

As such, what Dan 2:43 is really saying is that fallen angels will traffic/mingle with the “seed of men” in a more “reproductive component” sense (eggs/sperm), but that the fallen angels themselves will NOT join sexually to the “seed of men”.

As such Dan 2:43 could only mean that fallen angels will “traffic as in barter” in human genetic material, but the fallen angels will not join to it. This interpretation makes the scripture not completely contradict reality, and prophetically shows there are no modern day hybrids, nor will there be.

So as ironic as it is, the main verse that some Christians have been using to show that there would be hybrids in the end times, I think actually would prove that there will be no hybrids, assuming this verse is even applicable. When actually studied in the Hebrew and Greek with more than a cursory glance, this verse contains a lot of information illustrating the present situation of abductions taking place. (Actually these verses could be applied in retrospect to gins, fairies, incubus/succubus accounts of earlier times as well.)

In any case, the interpretation of the verse needs to be applied consistently. Fallen angels have sex with people, the abduction accounts are firm and consistent, so this verse cannot be saying otherwise. The only other explanation is that Fallen angels are trafficking in as to barter, but not sexually joining with there productive material of humans. That interpretation fits both modern abductions accounts, and the Hebrew and Greek of Dan 2:43.

And so I hope that I have now covered why there are no hybrids, and won’t be hybrids. Getting back to the earlier question, as there are no hybrids and won’t be hybrids, the demons that look like “gray aliens” will not be hybrids:

This really only leaves 2 options. The first is humans, and the second is animals. Humans don’t look like frogs, but some animals do (such as a frog). Revelation mentions demons, and looking like a frog, but doesn’t say these are human bodies inhabited by demons. Theoretically, a human could put on a frog mask, or have plastic surgery, and look like a frog. But I don’t think that is what Revelation is describing.

My personal theory on this is that these demons will take control of the bodies of animals. These animals will look like gray aliens. They will be genetically engineered animals that look like gray aliens. As God gave dominion over the animals to man, I believe that men will genetically engineer these animals that look like gray aliens. I do not believe that fallen angels have the dominion over animals to make these creatures on their own, but that rather they must deceive men into using modern technology to genetically engineer these animals. They would be sterile monsters, abominations, being incapable of reproduction. It could be that through surgery genetalia might be removed, or through diseases like encephalitis that their heads might become enlarged. I really don’t know how a person would make a sterile animal that looks like a gray alien. Now do I know who would make these, or where. Perhaps a rich Satanist in a secret private lab somewhere. I really don’t know.

However I would guess that the person or people making such an animal would be deceived into thinking they were not creating this animal, but rather that they were doing something else. I don’t know what exactly, but it is horrendous to think of what people could be deceived into doing if they were under the guidance of fallen angels. Perhaps in a highly compartmentalized fashion, where each person only did a small piece of the puzzle, and so really had no idea what the overall goal was. And although I think that if this theory is true, that fallen angels already know how to accomplish this feat, I also believe that they must get humans to make this thing themselves, surely through deception. And so that is what would be going on somehow, to get from point A to point B.

And what would be the result? If there was a “gray alien animal” that was fully controlled by a demon, it could behave intelligently. But the most important thing about it is that if a Christian walked up to it and said “The Lord Rebuke You”, the demon might leave, but the body would stay put. The demon might leave the animal, but the “gray alien animal” body would not disappear. This is a great and huge contrast to a fallen angel who is apparating in the form of a “gray alien”, who would disappear when rebuked in spiritual warfare. A fallen angel would disappear, but the body of a demon-possessed animal would not disappear. It might fall to the ground, or act like a dumb animal would, but it’s body would not disappear.

Another result would be that people would believe that “gray aliens” are real extra-terrestrials from another planet. As some people say, they won’t believe in aliens until they see a cold dead body of one. Unlike with a fallen angel, a remaining dead body would be possible with a demon-controlled genetically engineered animal that looks like a gray alien. These the kings of the earth would potentially follow to the battle.

Moving on to another question, what are the locust things that come out of the Abyss? The best guess I have is that they are the fallen angel fathers of the Nephilim, who are only allowed to come out looking in a certain way, and only allowed to inflict certain harm on people. In such they are limited in how they can apparate, and God restricts their powers, and the resulting torment they cause is of their own destructive and evil inclinations. In the entire Bible, the fallen angels who sired the Nephilim are the only entities that are told to be in the Abyss (also called Tartaros).

Rev 9:1-11 “The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes a man. During those days men will seek death, but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon.

What we also see here is that a “star that had fallen… was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss”, likely a fallen angel (though not Satan as he is “the dragon” not a “star” in Revelation’s imagery) opens up the Abyss. This indicates to me that the Abyss will not be opened prior to this time, is not open today, and that humans will not open it, and humans do not have the power to open up the Abyss.

Related to this, I have read an article by Brian Huie which states that there is some reason to think that the “Beast out of the sea” is the king of the fallen angels currently imprisoned in the Abyss. I have also seen an article by Neville Stevens along these lines. [6]

If this is the case, that fallen angel called ABADDON or APOLLYON may easily fit himself into this “real extra-terrestrial” deception. Who is APOLLYON or ABADDON? He is a fallen angel, one of the fathers of the Nephilim, and their leader, described in Eze 31. (See chapter 2) That is who the “beast out of the sea” truly is.

Which is an entirely different matter from who he will claim to be. Fallen angels are known to be liars and deceivers. It is entirely possible that he will claim to be Apollo the Greek sun “god”. Or he might claim to be Caesar, or an ancient Egyptian. All that we can truly know is what we read in the Bible, including,

Rev 17:8 “The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.” 

Whoever he claims to be, it will be astonishing to the non-Christian world. It may be a “god” of myth, or a dead world king or leader. Whoever it is was in existence before the Book of Revelation was written, and I would think likely is mentioned in the history books somewhere in some context.

Rev 17:8-11 “The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.

 This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.”

From this we can glean additional information on the identity of this fallen angel, the beast from the sea or Abyss. Because this fallen angel was, and is not at the time of the writing of Revelation, it would make sense that he is of the 5 kings that had fallen as of the time of the writing of Revelation. Some people say these kings can be determined from additional scripture in Daniel, and suggest that these 5 kings are the 5 kingdoms of Assyria, Babylon, Media, Persia, and Greece. [x] Other people suggest the 5 kingdoms were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medio-Persia, and Greece. [y] Personally I would favor this latter interpretation.

So for example, perhaps this fallen angel will say he is Nebuchadnezzar or Alexander the Great. When one includes Egypt, the possibility that this fallen angel could claim to be a deceased Egyptian pharaoh, come back to life, or claim to be an Egyptian “god” of legend. Some people claim there is an uncanny similarity between the legends of the Egyptian “god” Horus, and what the Bible teaches about Jesus. [z] There are many Egyptian “gods” or pharaohs that might be likely possibilities for who this fallen angel could claim to be, and would work in this context. Most Egyptian “gods” are considered to be based off of stories of men who were very early rulers of Egypt, and each pharaoh was considered to be a “god-man” or incarnation of one of the Egyptian “gods”.

We also read in Rev 3:3-4,

“One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast. Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?”

This is the attitude that the world will soon come to have towards the beast, which Christians should understand and look out for.

It seems likely though that the Beast, whoever he claims to be from Earth’s past, will give the additional explanation that this figure from the Earth’s past was an alien. Many people already have gotten the idea into their heads that the Earth may have been visited by aliens in the past, or that aliens might have built the pyramids, etc., have been visiting us for a long time, or even that aliens seeded life here on earth. This theory is known as “panspermia” or “exogenesis”. This idea’s foundation is the theory of evolution, and if people are deceived into thinking the Beast is an “alien”, who was here in the past, this may be it’s grand finale.

 

References:

[1] http://anotherotherkin.tripod.com/UFO/aliens.htm#GREYS

[2] http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/deceive.html

[3] http://www.nicap.org/babylon/missile_incidents.htm

[4] http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm          http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseSubarticle.asp?ID=1019

[5] http://cbs11tv.com/watercooler/ufo.ufo.sightings.2.649573.html

[6] at http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/abaddon.htm and http://www.zionministry.com/bst_dan.html

[x] http://www.lastdaysmystery.info/beast_which_has_the_seven_heads_and_ten_horns.htm

[y] http://thepre-wrathtribune.blogspot.com/2007/12/beast-empireseven-heads-part-5.html

[z] http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus

[7] http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/statue_of_liberty.html

[8] http://salvationrevelation.com/washington-monument-the-shaft-of-baal/

[9] http://yahushua.net/babylon/babylon.htm

 

 

Also included here are expanded links from the original Part 1, I’m not including all of part one as it is redundant with the current “Aliens in the Book of Revelation?!” Chapter.

[1] http://www.midnightcry.net/PDF/Seven%20Letters%20to%20Seven%20Churches.pdf

[2] These calculations were drawn from Dr. Sam Storms page http://www.enjoyinggodministries.com/article/42-june-6-2006-some-observations-on-the-number-of-the-beast-666 . Also from http://www.666myth.com/666_Ancients.html , by Titus Nguiagain, PhD.

[3]  (Ekklesia, no. 14 (Jan. 10, 1990), pg. 511a)http://uncutmountain.com/uncut/docs/Memorandum_on_the_WCC_Athens_Conference.pdf

 [4] Much info found here http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm and some confirmed herehttp://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/Unif12.html

[5] A list can be found here: http://www.oikoumene.org/en/member-churches/global-bodies-and-mission-communions/wcc.html

[6] http://www.burlingtonnews.net/greys.html

[X] See: http://aliensrevealed.blogspot.com/2009/09/frogs-of-revelation.html  A great independent article by “Glenn”.
I didn’t find this out till 4 years after I had this idea, but this idea is also mentioned in ‘UFOs End Time Delusion’ the book,  somewhat briefly. (Which I didn’t read until after I had written my book.)
And whomever made this picture…? I’d like to credit the artist if I knew who they were. Wow.
I saw this the first time… almost 3 years after I had this idea. My point being that it appears to me that God seems to be leading multiple people, independent of each other, to have this same idea. I know I felt God was the one who told me this idea… and it makes a lot of sense that God would be sharing this information with other children of His as well. Like a 2nd (+) witness.
  Pretty interesting…

[7] http://www.hyper.net/ufo/occupants.html

[8] http://www.crowdedskies.com/grey_alien.htm

[9] From “Drawing based on alleged alien hand as supplied by Leonard Stringfield (1) and Interpreted by Artist Al Reed (2,3). From Stringfield’s UFO Crash/Retrievals: Amassing the Evidence, Status Report III”.

[10] The alien picture and quote are from http://www.crowdedskies.com/grey_alien.htm

[11] http://www.worldbook.com/wb/worldbook/cybercamp/html/walkfrog.html

Both parts were originally published online in late 2007 as ” Timeline of Demons and Fallen Angels from the Present to the Future – Prophecy and Revelation (Part 1& 2)”

 







A Modern Guide to Demons and Fallen Angels © 2007-2013
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