Dit boek is getiteld "De Bijbel, Natuurkunde, en de mogelijkheden van Fallen Angels". Voordat we beginnen, wil ik erop wijzen dat dit boek is op wat ik noem 'gevallen engelen' en niet op wat ik zou willen noemen "demonen". Ik maak een onderscheid tussen de twee, want ik denk dat er een hiërarchie van boze geesten, en een aantal zijn krachtiger dan anderen. We zien dit in de Schrift:
of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].” Efeziërs 6:12 "Want wij hebben niet te worstelen tegen vlees en bloed, maar tegen de overheden, tegen de machten, tegen de machthebbers van de duisternis van deze wereld, tegen de geestelijke boosheden in de lucht [plaats]."
, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:38-39 Want ik ben verzekerd, dat noch dood, noch leven, noch engelen, noch overheden, noch machten, noch tegenwoordige, noch toekomende dingen, Noch hoogte, noch diepte, noch enig ander schepsel zal kunnen om ons te scheiden van de liefde Gods, welke is in Christus Jezus, onze Heer.
Boze geest wezens worden regelmatig verdeeld in typen in de Bijbel. Sommige types van boze geesten zijn krachtiger dan anderen. Ik ben het definiëren van "demonen" als de minder krachtige boze geesten dat het verkrijgen van invloed of controle over een persoon of dier nodig hebben om enige fysieke aanwezigheid hebben. De boze geesten die Jezus en de discipelen cast uit de mensen in het Nieuwe Testament zijn de enige geesten aangeduid als "demonen" bijbels.
Hoe zit het met de demonische hiërarchie van boze geesten?
Ik denk dat demonen kunnen dromen beïnvloeden, en het is dit soort van droom die soms kan leiden tot een te geloven dat ze een "buitenaardse ontvoering" ervaren hoewel er geen fysiek bewijs links van de ervaring, zoals het geval is in andere "vreemde ontvoering "accounts. Deze dromen Ik zou toeschrijven als zijnde veroorzaakt door de kwade geesten van de demon-niveau, of soms gevallen engelen ook.
Demonen veroorzaken ook wakker onderdrukking. Sommige contacten 'en ontvoerden, terwijl wakker praktijk kanaliseren van wat zij noemen "vreemdelingen". Dit kan ook worden toegeschreven aan demonen. Tot slot, demonen, als ze eenmaal een fysieke invloed of controle over het lichaam van een persoon, kan leiden tot epileptische aanvallen, ziekten, kwalen, en waanzin, zoals te zien in de Bijbel. Sommige dingen met betrekking tot de "ontvoering door buitenaardse wezens" verschijnsel kan worden toegeschreven aan demonen op deze manier.
Echter, naast deze paar dingen zijn er vele andere delen van het "buitenaardse ontvoering" ervaring die gewoon niet overeenkomen met het fysieke niveau of de bevoegdheden van de demonen. Ze zou een hogere lichamelijkheid en macht, zoals gevallen engelen hebben.
Dan 10:13 Doch de vorst van het koninkrijk van Perzie stond tegenover Mij een en twintig dagen: en ziet, Michael, een van de voornaamste vorsten, kwam mij te hulp, en ik bleef daar met de koningen van Perzië.
En ik ben het definiëren van "gevallen engelen" als de meer krachtige boze geesten die een fysieke aanwezigheid die niet afhankelijk is van bewonen van een persoon of een dier het lichaam kan hebben. Deze zijn beter vergelijkbaar in mogelijkheden om heilige engelen, of Satan, met vergelijkbare mogelijkheden, en van dezelfde of een vergelijkbare klasse of als hem.
Gevallen engelen zijn van de klasse, bedoeld in Daniël als de "prins van thekingdomofPersia". We lezen dat Gabriel niet kon de "Prince of Persia" door zichzelf te overwinnen, maar moest Michael's hulp. Dus, in Daniël wordt duidelijk gemaakt dat sommige geesten zijn krachtiger dan anderen.
Het onderscheid heeft gemaakt, is dit boek vooral op gevallen engelen en demonen niet op.
Toch wil ik een notitie te maken. Ik vroeg eens aan Joe Jordan, de voorzitter van de CE4Research Group (die ongetwijfeld heeft met meer vreemde ontvoerde gevallen gewerkt dan welke andere christelijke organisatie die ik kan bedenken, circa 500 gevallen) wat ontvoerden meestal gemeld aan hun onderzoeksgroep. Hij antwoordde dat de overgrote meerderheid, zelfs meer dan 90% van de ontvoerden meestal, begon vertellen hun ervaringen met, "Ik heb deze dromen ..." En zo gaat het onderzoek blijkt dat er reden is om de overgrote meerderheid van de "buitenaardse ontvoering" denken ervaringen hebben een meer dromerig, en minder fysisch-real-schijn, kwaliteit voor hen. Natuurlijk blijft er minder dan ongeveer 10%, van "buitenaardse ontvoering" ervaringen in die de ontvoerden hebben een fysiek-real-kwaliteit lijkt gerapporteerd aan de ervaring. Elke grondige uitleg over de werking van "buitenaardse ontvoering" moet natuurlijk beide soorten van "ontvoering door buitenaardse wezens" ervaringen. Wat volgt pogingen om een dergelijke verklaring, waarin alle de vele aspecten van wat er gemeld worden. Er misschien meer van een accent in deze studie van uitleg van de meer fysiek-real-schijnt ervaringen, die nodig is voor een grondige uitleg. Maar doe maken mee dat de aandacht voor ervaringen met deze fysiek-real-kwaliteit lijkt op geen enkele manier ontkent dat dit soort ervaring wordt gerapporteerd door het onderzoek naar de minder voorkomende soort van ervaring.
De mogelijkheden van Fallen Angels, zoals beschreven in de Bijbel
Hoofdstuk 1 - Visions and Dreams
Om beter te begrijpen wat deze gevallen engelen kunnen doen, gaan we een kijkje nemen op de capaciteiten aangetoond door engelen in de Bijbel. Dan zullen we vergelijken met de capaciteiten van de gevallen engelen, zoals beschreven in de Bijbel de moderne buitenaardse ontvoering accounts.
Het zou zinvol zijn dat de mogelijkheden van de gevallen engelen zou hetzelfde zijn als de capaciteiten van de heilige engelen, zoals God die oorspronkelijk allemaal om Heilig te zijn engelen, die in staat waren het uitvoeren van bepaalde taken voor God. Deze taken omvatten het geven van berichten door middel van dromen en visioenen, of het leveren van een bericht terwijl verschijnen als een man. Hoewel ze meestal onzichtbaar blijven, engelen mensen beschermen tegen kwaad (Psalm 91:11-12). Ze fungeren als het leger van God (Openbaring 19:19): zij destroyedSodom (Gen 19), bracht de muur ofJericho (Josh 5-6), en slaat mensen (1 Ch 21). God schiep de engelen te kunnen om dingen te doen als deze.
Engelen kunnen doen wonderbaarlijke bovennatuurlijke dingen, en jammer genoeg gevallen engelen kan nog steeds veel van dezelfde dingen, als ze waren gemaakt met deze vermogens. Maar zij gebruiken voor het kwaad en bedrog. Als zodanig zijn we gaan kijken naar voorbeelden in de Bijbel gevonden van zowel de heilige engelen en gevallen engelen, om vast te stellen wat de Bijbel zegt dat ze de mogelijkheden van de engelen in het algemeen. In deze kunnen we een beter idee van wat gevallen engelen kan doen in het algemeen. En ook een stichting voor een beter begrip van de activiteiten die gevallen engelen betrokken zijn bij vandaag, die lijkt te zijn "ontvoering door buitenaardse wezens" ervaringen.
Visions wordt veroorzaakt door Angels
Engelen kunnen leiden tot wat de Bijbel noemt "Visions".
Dan 10: 1-12 In het derde jaar van Kores, koning van Perzië, een ding was geopenbaard Daniel, wiens naam genoemd werd Beltsazar, en het ding was waar, maar benoemd tot het tijd was lang: en hij begreep het ding, en hij had verstand van de visie. In die dagen was ik, Daniel, treurende drie weken. At ik niet prettig brood, noch vlees of wijn kwam in mijn mond, noch zalfde ik mij helemaal niet, totdat die drie weken vervuld waren. En in de vier en twintigste dag van de eerste maand, zo was ik aan de kant van de grote rivier, welke is Hiddekel; En ik hief mijn ogen op, en zag, en zie, een man met linnen bekleed, en Zijn lenden waren omgord met fijn goud van Ufaz: Zijn lichaam was gelijk een turkoois, en Zijn aangezicht gelijk de gedaante van de bliksem, en zijn ogen als lampen van vuur, en zijn armen en Zijn voeten gelijk de verf van gepolijst koper, en de stem van zijn woorden . net als de stem van een menigte En ik, Daniel, alleen zag dat gezicht: voor de mannen, die bij mij waren, zagen dat gezicht niet, maar een grote verschrikking viel op hen, zodat zij vloden, om zich te verbergen Daarom heb ik alleen was gelaten, en. zag dit grote gezicht, en er bleef in mij geen kracht: en mijn sierlijkheid werd aan mij veranderd in de corruptie, en ik geen kracht behield.
Toch hoorde ik de stem van zijn woorden: en toen ik de stem van zijn woorden hoorde, toen ik in een diepe slaap op mijn aangezicht, en mijn gezicht naar de grond. En ziet, een hand roerde mij aan, die stelde mij op mijn knieën en de palmen van mijn handen. En hij zeide tot mij: Daniël, een man zeer geliefde, begrijpen de woorden die ik spreek tot u, en rechtop, want tot u ben ik nu gezonden. En als hij dit woord tot mij sprak, stond ik bevende. En hij zeide tot mij: Vrees niet, Daniël, want vanaf de eerste dag dat gij uw hart ingesteld om te begrijpen, en om uzelven te verootmoedigen voor uw God, zijn uw woorden gehoord, en ik ben gekomen op uw woorden.
Wat kunnen we waarnemen uit deze passage? Daniel vraagt wat hij een 'grote visie "(Daniël 10:8), die werd veroorzaakt door een engel ervaren. Terwijl het hebben van deze visie:
- Het was echt om de lichamelijke zintuigen: Daniel was in zijn lichaam, zag hij met zijn ogen, hoorde hij met zijn oren, hij een hand van een engel voelde aanraking zijn lichaam, voelde zich op zijn handen en knieën en later opstaan, en voelde hij zich lichamelijk beven
- De visie Daniël zag was bedekt op de top van de realiteit iedereen kon zien, maar anderen niet kon zien van de visie. (Dan10: 7)
- Wat Daniël zag was ongebruikelijk, en zelfs onmogelijk-schijn, zoals een gezicht met de 'uitstraling van de bliksem ". Ook de stem van het singuliere wezen dat hij zag klonk als een veelheid van stemmen.
- Daniel was wakker, en niet dromen, noch in een trance.
Daniel's lichaam werd nog steeds omringd door de objectieve realiteit, de rivier, het landschap, en de mannen op de vlucht voor iets wat ze niet konden zien, maar voelde emotioneel. De mannen konden zien van de rivier en het landschap. Echter, was Daniel de geest ook het zien van een visioen van een engel overlay op deze objectieve werkelijkheid, en dit visioen dat hij interactie met vilt volkomen echt aan zijn lichamelijke zintuigen. Hij zag het, hij hoorde het, en voelde het, maar niemand om hem heen kon zelfs zien dat, hoewel ze voelde angst.
De Bijbel bevestigt dat Visions veroorzaakt door engelen zijn ervaren met de zintuigen, gezien met de ogen, hoorde met de oren, voelde tactiel in het lichaam, onder vermelding van het duidelijk in Eze 40 en 44.
In de visioenen van God bracht hij mij in het land van Israël, en stelde mij op een zeer hoge berg, waardoor [was] van het frame van een stad op het zuiden. En hij bracht mij erheen en, [er was] zie, een man, wiens verschijning [was], zoals de verschijning van messing, met een lijn van vlas in zijn hand, en een meetriet, en hij stond in de poort. [Angel] En de man zeide tot mij: Mensenkind, zie met uw ogen, en hoor met uw oren, en zet uw hart op alles, wat Ik u wijzen zal, want de bedoeling dat ik zou kunnen tonen [hen] tot u [art] gij herwaarts gebracht;. verklaart alles, wat gij ziet naar het huis van Israël Eze 40:2-4
Daarna bracht hij me de weg van het noorden poort voor het huis: en ik zag, en ziet, de heerlijkheid des HEEREN vervulde het huis des HEEREN, en ik viel op mijn aangezicht. En de HEERE zeide tot mij: Mensenkind, goed merk, en zie met uw ogen, en hoor met uw oren alles, wat Ik zeg u, van alle inzettingen van het huis des HEEREN, en al de wetten daarvan; en markeer goed de ingang van het huis, met elk uitgaan van het heiligdom. Eze 44:3-4
Voordat je verder gaat, ik denk dat het belangrijk is om te kunnen conceptualiseren wat een visie is. Wat zou een ervaring als deze worden genoemd in de hedendaagse wereld? Als een mens vandaag de dag beweerden te hebben gezien een engel, die hij zag met zijn ogen, hoorde met zijn oren, aangeraakt, en die niemand anders met hem kon zien ... Er zijn vele vandaag de dag die zou zeggen dat hij moet een 'hallucinatie' hebben gehad . Niet alleen dat, maar ook een "visueel-, audio-en tactiele hallucinatie". En er zijn veel mensen die zouden zeggen dat zo'n man moet een psycholoog of psychiater om hulp te zien. Dit zou alleen maar meer waarschijnlijk als de man begon te beweren dat hij een profeet was, en het schrijven van zijn ervaringen, omdat hij dacht dat deze "hallucinaties" waren belangrijk genoeg dat God wilde dat ze opgenomen te worden gedeeld met het nageslacht. Dan kan hij echt worden geëtiketteerd als "gek" en opgesloten. Maar dit zou allemaal alleen het geval omdat veel van de wereld van vandaag verwerpt dat God bestaat, dat engelen bestaan, en verwerpt dat engelen hebben bovennatuurlijke vermogens en kunnen communiceren met de mensheid.
Een hallucinatie is gedefinieerd als:
"Een zintuiglijke ervaring van iets dat niet bestaat buiten de geest, veroorzaakt door verschillende fysieke en mentale stoornissen, of door reactie op bepaalde toxische stoffen, en meestal manifesteert als visuele of auditieve beelden."
"Een zintuiglijke waarneming die niet het gevolg zijn van een externe stimulus en dat gebeurt in de wakende toestand. Het kan voorkomen in elk van de zintuigen en is daarom geclassificeerd als auditieve, smaak, reuk, tast, of visuele. Het is een symptoom van psychotisch gedrag, vaak opgemerkt tijdens schizofrenie, alsmede van andere psychische of organische stoornissen en omstandigheden. "
-Mosby's Medical Dictionary
Erven in de definitie van een 'hallucinatie' is het uitgemaakte zaak dat het "niet het gevolg van externe stimulus" (als een engel), is het "niet bestaan buiten de geest 'objectieve (zoals engelen of de spirituele kant van de werkelijkheid zelf ), en het wordt "veroorzaakt door verschillende lichamelijke en geestelijke aandoeningen" en is een "symptoom van psychotisch gedrag".
Het verschil tussen een visie en een hallucinatie is dat een visie is een gevolg van externe stimulus, namelijk engelen, die een externe stimulus die bestaan buiten de geest, en een visie wordt niet veroorzaakt door een lichamelijke of geestelijke stoornis, noch is het een symptoom van psychotisch gedrag.
Maar net als een hallucinatie, een Vision is een zintuiglijke ervaring, net als Daniel is beschreven te hebben gehad. Natuurlijk, waarbij een onderscheid tussen een 'hallucinatie' en een "Vision" is helemaal een kwestie van als men kan bewijzen dat als de vraag of de zintuiglijke ervaring werd veroorzaakt door een engel of niet veroorzaakt door een. Het is moeilijk om te bewijzen dat een 'hallucinatie' niet werd veroorzaakt door externe stimulus als die externe stimulus kan een engel, die blijft onzichtbaar en niet verklaart hun aanwezigheid worden. In feite kan men net zo gemakkelijk aannemen dat alle "hallucinaties" in feite worden veroorzaakt door engelen (heilig of gevallen) en zijn daarom Visions, zoals men zou kunnen veronderstellen dat alle Visions niet worden veroorzaakt door een externe stimuli (maar eerder van een aantal fysieke of psychische stoornis) en zijn daarom "hallucinaties". Met betrekking tot die, die de beslissende factor is allemaal een kwestie van persoonlijke spirituele overtuigingen, vooroordelen, en zeer subjectieve persoonlijke interpretatie van de ervaring.
Maar voor christenen, de Bijbel is vol van de vele voorbeelden van Visions wordt veroorzaakt door engelen. En Visions in de Bijbel hebben nogal wat variatie voor hen, bijvoorbeeld sommige gebeuren terwijl wakker, en wat gebeurt er terwijl in een staat van trance. Een voorbeeld van een visie gehad tijdens een trance wordt in Handelingen 10:9-17.
Des anderen daags, als zij gingen op hun reis, en naderde tot de stad, Peter ging op het dak om te bidden omtrent de zesde ure: En hij werd hongerig, en zou hebben gegeten, maar terwijl zij klaar gemaakt, viel hij in een trance en zag de hemel geopend, en een zeker vat op Hem nederdalen, want het was een groot linnen laken gebreid aan de vier hoeken, en in de steek gelaten op de aarde: Waarin waren allerlei viervoetige dieren der aarde, en wilde dieren en kruipende, en vogelen des hemels En er kwam een stem tot hem: Sta op, Peter,. slacht en eet. Maar Peter zei, Niet zo, Heer, want ik heb nooit gegeten iets, dat gemeen of onrein. En de stem sprak tot hem weer de tweede maal, Wat God rein verklaard heeft, dat niet noemen gij gemeen. Dit is driemaal gedaan: en het schip werd ontvangen weer in de hemel. Nu, terwijl Peter in zichzelven twijfelde, wat dit visioen dat hij had gezien zou moeten betekenen, ziet, de mannen, die werden verzonden van Cornelius had onderzoek voor het huis van Simon maakte, en stond voor de poort.
Opmerkingen over deze passage:
- Peter had deze "visie" in een "trance", terwijl wakker, en niet in slaap. De "trance" is niet omschreven als 'dromen'. Het lijkt waarschijnlijk dat diegenen die zich voorbereiden voor de lunch, die waren met Peter Peter zag in deze staat van trance. Dit is echter trance staat niet beschreven als "dromen". Peter was wakker, en niet in slaap, maar in een staat van trance.
- Peter waargenomen wordt in zijn lichaam - dit is geïmpliceerd door hem te kunnen optioneel "Sta op, doden en opeten". Peter is ook te zien met zijn ogen, en het horen met zijn oren.
- Peter, net als Daniël, ziet ongebruikelijke of onmogelijk uitziende dingen.
Tijdens deze trance Peter ervaart wat de Bijbel noemt een 'visie' ('horama' Strong's 3705). Eerder in Handelingen 10:03, Cornelius ontvangt ook een "horama" visie, gespecificeerd te worden veroorzaakt door een engel. Later, in Handelingen 12, Peter is niet zeker weet of hij een ander visioen, als een engel aanwezig is met: "Peter volgde hem (een engel) uit de gevangenis, maar hij had geen idee dat wat de engel deed werkelijkheid was gebeurt, hij dacht dat hij een visioen zag "Handelingen 10:09 NIV
Deze Visions (die in verbinding staan een bericht) worden Bijbels geassocieerd als zijnde veroorzaakt door de engelen, als heilige engelen zijn boodschappers van God, het Griekse woord aggelos betekent "boodschapper". Vele malen engelen geven boodschappen van God door het veroorzaken van dromen of visioenen.
Het woord boven de in Handelingen 10 voor 'trance' is "ekstasis" (1611 in de Strong's). De tweede definitie is "een het gooien van de geest uit zijn normale toestand, vervreemding van de geest, of zoals het is een gek, of dat van een man die door een plotselinge emotie is vervoerd als het ware uit zichzelf, zodat in dit verrukte toestand, hoewel hij wakker is, is zijn geest afgetapt uit alle omliggende objecten en volledig gefixeerd op wat goddelijke, dat hij niets, maar de vormen en beelden liegen binnen ziet, en denkt dat hij waarneemt met zijn lichamelijke ogen en oren realiteit blijkt hem door God . "
Dus, zelfs de Strong's Concordantie definieert deze trance als een ervaring in de geest, die wordt ervaren met de "lichamelijke ogen en oren", of met andere woorden is echt voor de lichamelijke zintuigen. In het geval van Peter, beschrijft hij dat hij gezien horen met zijn oren, ziende met zijn ogen, en het spreken met zijn mond. Dit geeft hij zag zichzelf als in zijn lichaam, het ervaren van iets wat echt leek te alle lichamelijke zintuigen. Het is echter impliciet dat de mensen rondom Peter hem ervaren als zijnde in een staat van trance. Peter misschien niet geweten dat hij was geweest in een trance, maar kunnen net dacht dat hij was wakker geweest, als er niet was andere mensen die hem zag in een trance.
Een ander voorbeeld van een visie, die waarschijnlijk ook werd vergemakkelijkt door een heilige engel boodschapper (Se Rev 1, 01:01) is er gebeurd met Paul en de mannen die bij hem in Handelingen 9 (opnieuw verteld in Handelingen 22).
En als hij reisde, kwam hij nearDamascus: en opeens scheen er rondom hem een licht uit de hemel: En hij viel op de aarde, en hoorde een stem die tot hem zeide: Saul, Saul, waarom vervolgt gij mij? En hij zeide: Wie zijt Gij, Heere? En de Heere zeide: Ik ben Jezus, Dien gij vervolgt: het is moeilijk voor u te schoppen tegen de prikken. En hij, bevende en verbaasd zijnde, zeide: Heere, wat wilt Gij dat ik doen zal? En de Heere zeide tot hem: Sta op, en ga in de stad, en u zal verteld worden, wat gij doen moet. En de mannen die met hem reisden, stonden sprakeloos, het horen van een stem, maar zagen niemand. En Saulus stond op van de aarde, en als hij zijn ogen opendeed, zag hij niemand, maar zij leidden hem bij de hand, en brachten hem naar Damascus.
En het geschiedde, dat, zoals ik mijn reis, en was nabij komt tot Damascus over de middag plotseling, er scheen uit de hemel een groot licht rondom mij. En ik viel tot de grond en hoorde een stem die tot mij zeide: Saul, Saul, waarom vervolgt gij mij? En ik antwoordde: Wie zijt Gij, Heere? En hij zeide tot mij: Ik ben Jezus van Nazareth, die gij vervolgt. En zij, die met mij waren, zagen wel het licht, en werden zeer bevreesd, maar zij begrepen niet de stem van hem die tegen me sprak. En ik zeide: Wat zal ik doen, Heer? En de Heere zeide tot mij: Sta op en ga intoDamascus, en aldaar zal met u gesproken worden van alle dingen, die worden benoemd voor u te doen. En als ik niet kon zien voor de glorie van dat licht, wordt geleid door de hand van hen die met mij waren, kwam ik in Damascus.
Opmerkingen naar aanleiding van deze passages:
- Paulus en de mannen zagen het licht, maar niemand zag aan wie de stem die sprak behoorde.
- Paulus zag de heerlijkheid van het licht, en het was zo intens dat hij werd verblind door het, maar de mannen die bij hem niet eens te zien op dezelfde intense manier waarop hij deed.
- Paul gehoord en begrepen de stem die sprak
- De mannen hoorden de stem die sprak, maar begreep het niet
In dit geval is de visie wakker was. Wat is het meest interessant is dat de visie werd ervaren op een manier door Paul, en in een andere, meer beperkte manier, door de mannen met hem. Dit houdt in dat het mogelijk is voor een groep mensen de ervaring van de dezelfde visie. Toch is dit geval laat ook zien dat de ene persoon kan zien is een maar een ander persoon kan zien B, zelfs terwijl ze beiden met een gedeelde visie. Dus het lijkt een engel ertoe kunnen leiden dat een aantal mensen om een visie te hebben op hetzelfde moment, maar elke persoon zou kunnen iets anders te zien, nog steeds ervaren met hun lichamelijke zintuigen, maar anders voor elke persoon.
Dromen Veroorzaakt door Angels
Naast Visions, de Bijbel leert dat engelen kunnen ook dromen, zoals het zien van een engel in een droom veroorzaken, zoals in het geval van Jozef, de man van Maria, surrogaat-vader van Jezus Christus:
Matt 1:20 Maar terwijl hij dacht dat deze dingen, ziet, de engel des Heeren verscheen hem in een droom, zeggende: Jozef, gij zoon van David, wees niet bevreesd te nemen tot u Maria, uw vrouw, want dat wat bedacht in haar is van de Heilige Geest.
Matt 2:13 En als zij waren vertrokken, ziet, de engel des Heeren verschijnt Jozef in een droom, zeggende: Sta op, en neem het jonge kind en zijn moeder, en vlied in Egypte, en wees aldaar, totdat ik breng u woord: want Herodes zal het Kindeken zoeken om hem te vernietigen.
De bijbel geeft ook een voorbeeld dat sommige ervaringen kunnen een mix tussen een droom en een visie zijn, maar er gebeuren als men slaapt in je bed. "In een droom, een visioen van de nacht, wanneer diepe valle slaap op de mensen, in slumberings op het bed "Job 33:15
De mogelijkheden van Fallen Angels, zoals beschreven in de Bijbel
Hoofdstuk 2 - fysieke manifestaties, en fysische interacties tijdens Visions
Fysieke Interacties met Angels
Naast de dromen en visioenen, de Bijbel leert dat engelen kunnen fysiek ook interactie met mensen, op een manier die fysieke effecten te verlaten na afloop.
Handelingen 12:5-12, 18-19
Peter was dan ook gehouden in de gevangenis, maar het gebed werd zonder ophouden van de kerk tot God voor hem. En wanneer hem nu Herodes zou voorbrengen, dezelfde nacht Peter lag te slapen tussen twee soldaten, gebonden met twee ketenen:. En de wachters voor de deur hield de gevangenis En ziet, de engel van de Heer kwam op hem, en een lichte schitterde in de gevangenis: en hij sloeg Peter op de zijkant, en wekte hem op, zeggende: Sta snel. En zijn ketenen vielen af van zijn handen. En de engel zeide tot hem: Gord uzelf, en bind uw sandalen. En dat deed hij. En hij zeide tot hem: Werp uw mantel om, en volg mij. En hij ging uit, en volgde hem, en wist niet, dat het waar was, die werd gedaan door de engel,. Maar dacht dat hij een visioen zag Toen ze voorbij de eerste en de tweede afdeling, zij kwamen tot de ijzeren poort, die leidt tot de stad, die voor hen opende van zijn eigen beweging, en zij gingen uit, en doorgegeven door middel van een straat, en terstond scheidde de engel van hem. En toen Peter was gekomen om zelf, zei hij:
Nu weet ik van een zekerheid, dat de HEERE Zijn engel gezonden, en mij verlost heeft uit de hand van Herodes, en uit al de verwachting van het volk der Joden. En als hij alles overlegd had, kwam hij naar het huis van Maria, de moeder van Johannes, wiens achternaam was Markus, alwaar velen vergaderd waren te bidden. .... Nu zodra het dag werd, was er geen kleine beroerte onder de krijgsknechten, wat was er van Peter. En toen Herodes had gezocht voor hem, en vond hem niet, hij onderzocht de keepers, en gebood, dat zij ter dood worden gebracht. En hij ging af van Judea toCaesarea, en daar bleef.
In dit geval is een engel wordt verzonden naar vrij Peter uit de gevangenis van Herodes. In eerste instantie Peter denkt dat hij een visie ervaart, maar beseft al gauw dat deze gebeurtenissen hebben werkelijk plaatsgevonden. Peter had visioenen voor, en zijn verwarring bewijst het punt dat visies zijn echt voor de lichamelijke zintuigen - net zo echt als de objectieve werkelijkheid - dat is de reden waarom Peter wist niet zeker of wat er gebeurde was een visie of niet.
Maar de gebeurtenissen waren fysiek echt en heeft plaatsgevonden in de objectieve werkelijkheid.
De engel gematerialiseerd in een fysieke manier en veroorzaakt blijvende lichamelijke veranderingen in de objectieve werkelijkheid. Andere mensen, zoals de bewakers, Herodes, en Peter's vrienden, waren alle getroffen door deze blijvende lichamelijke veranderingen in de objectieve werkelijkheid, in de engel redden Peter uit de gevangenis.
Niet alleen dat, maar de engel was in staat om trotseren natuurkunde in de objectieve werkelijkheid, of lijken te bovennatuurlijke krachten hebben, door dingen te doen, zoals het veroorzaken van een licht te schijnen, om kettingen vallen, waarschijnlijk het openen van wat was een afgesloten hek, en het verplaatsen van een zeer zware deur met schijnbaar bovennatuurlijke kracht, maar ook verschijnen en verdwijnen schijnbaar uit het niets.
Een ander voorbeeld van engelen verschijnen fysiek en het verlaten van fysieke effecten wordt Gen 19:
Gen 19:1-7, 10-13, 24-28
En er kwamen twee engelen naar Sodom in den avond, en Lot zat in de poort van Sodom, en Lot hen te zien stond op om hen te ontmoeten, en hij boog zich met zijn gezicht naar de grond, En hij zeide: Zie nu, mijne heren, beurt, ik bid u, in het huis van uw dienaar, en teerachtige de hele nacht, en wast uw voeten, en gij zult vroeg opstaan, en ga op uw wegen. En zij zeiden: Neen, maar we zullen verblijven in de straat de hele nacht. En hij hield bij hen zeer aan, en keerden zij zich tot hem, en ging in zijn huis, en hij maakte hun een maaltijd, en bakte ongezuurde koeken, en zij aten. Maar voordat zij vaststellen, de mannen van de stad, zelfs de mannen van Sodom, het huis rond, zowel jong en oud, alle mensen van alle kanten omsingeld: En zij riepen Lot toe, en zeide tot hem: Waar zijn de mannen die kwam in deze nacht tot u? breng hen uit tot ons, opdat wij ze kennen. En Lot ging aan de deur tot hen, en sloot de deur achter hem, en zeide: Ik bid u, broeders, doet toch geen kwaad .... Maar die mannen staken hun hand, en trok Lot in het huis aan hen, en sluiten voor de deur. En zij sloegen de mannen, die waren aan de deur van het huis met blindheid, van klein tot groot:, zodat zij moede werden om de deur te vinden. En de mannen zeiden tot Lot, gij hier: Hebt enige naast? schoonzoon, en uw zonen en uw dochteren, en al wat gij hebt in de stad, breng uit deze plaats: Want wij gaan deze plaats verderven, omdat haar geroep van hen is wasachtig groot voor het aangezicht des HEEREN, en de HEERE heeft ons gestuurd om het te vernietigen ... En de HEERE over Sodom en Gomorra zwavel en vuur van den HEERE uit den hemel, en hij keerde deze steden om, en al de vlakte, en alle inwoners van de steden, en dat wat groeide op de grond. Maar zijn huisvrouw zag om van achter hem, en zij werd een zoutpilaar. En Abraham gat vroeg in de ochtend naar de plaats waar hij stond voor het aangezicht des HEEREN: En hij zag towardSodom andGomorrah, en naar het ganse land van de vlakte, en hij zag, en ziet, de rook van het land ging als de rook van een oven.
Enkele opmerkingen: Alle mannen van de stad kon zien de engelen, niet alleen Lot. De engelen veroorzaakte al de mannen die Lot intimiderend om blind te worden. De engelen zullen keerde de vrouw van Lot in een zoutpilaar. De engelen ook vernietigde de stad Sodom en Gomorra, en Abraham was in staat om de rook te observeren van de ondergang van de stad van ver weg. Vandaag de dag sommige mensen (zie arkdiscovery.com) zeggen dat ze de verwoeste stad gevonden, en zonder twijfel enig bewijs van deze engelen evenement blijft tot op de dag, ergens.
In het geval van Sodom en Gomorra van de engelen werden gezien door mannen en interactie met hen. Deze engelen verscheen op zoek als menselijke mannen. Echter, engelen ook interactie met de objectieve werkelijkheid zonder gezien te worden, en de resterende onzichtbaar, zoals is te zien in Job.
Job 1:12-19 En de HEERE zeide tot den satan: Zie, al wat hij heeft is in uw macht, alleen aan hem strek uw hand niet. En de satan ging uit van het aangezicht des HEEREN. En er was een dag als zijn zonen en zijn dochters aten en wijn dronken in het huis van hun oudste broer: En er kwam een bode tot Job, en zeide: De runderen waren ploegende, en de ezelinnen weidende aan hun: En de Sabaeërs viel op hen, en nam ze weg, ja, zij hebben gedood de dienaren met de scherpte van het zwaard, en ik ben maar alleen ontkomen, om u te vertellen. Terwijl hij nog sprak, kwam er ook nog een ander, en zeide: Het vuur van God uit de hemel gevallen, en heeft ontstak onder de schapen, en de knechten, en verteerde hen, en ik ben maar alleen ontkomen, om het u te vertellen. Terwijl hij nog sprak, zo kwam een ander, en zeide: De Chaldeen stelden drie hopen, en vielen op de kemelen aan, en namen ze weg, ja, en sloegen de jongeren met de scherpte van het zwaard, en ik alleen ben ontsnapte alleen om u te vertellen. Terwijl hij nog sprak, zo kwam een ander, en zeide: Uw zonen en uw dochteren aten, en wijn dronken in het huis van hun oudste broer: En ziet, er kwam een grote wind uit de woestijn, en stiet aan de vier hoeken van de huis, en het viel op de jongelingen, en ze zijn dood, en ik ben maar alleen ontkomen, om u te vertellen.
In dit geval God effectief verwijderd een "hedge van bescherming" rondom Job en liet alles maar Job's leven worden gebracht "in Satan's handen" (Job 1:12). Satan dan mensen geïnspireerd om Job knechten te doden, veroorzaakt een vuur uit de hemel naar beneden te komen en te doden zijn schapen en knechten, en veroorzaakte een grote wind om een huis op de top van de kinderen van Job slopen, het doden van hen allen. Hoewel Satan was onzichtbaar in al deze gebeurtenissen, toch de gebeurtenissen Satan heeft veroorzaakt zich objectieve werkelijkheid, en er waren meerdere getuigen van de fysieke effecten van wat er gebeurd was.
Een ander blijvend effect engelen kan veroorzaken is lichamelijke ziekte of verwonding, wordt gezien in Handelingen en in Job:
Handelingen 12:21-23 En op een gezetten dag Herodes, een koninklijk kleed aangedaan, zat op zijn troon, en deed een rede tot hen. En het volk gaf een schreeuw, zeggende: Het is de stem van een god, en niet van een man. En terstond de engel van de Heer sloeg hem, omdat hij gaf niet God de eer, en hij werd gegeten van wormen en stierf.
In dit geval wordt in Handelingen de engel onzichtbaar was, in ieder geval zijn publieke optreden om de menigte is niet opgenomen, en de engel veroorzaakte een fysieke aandoening de dood tot gevolg aan het lichaam van een persoon.
Job 2:6-7 En de HEERE zeide tot den satan: Zie, hij is in uw hand, maar redden zijn leven. Dus ging de satan uit van het aangezicht des HEEREN, en sloeg Job met boze zweren van de zool van zijn voet tot zijn kruin.
In Job, the angel Satan was invisible, but in objective reality he caused real and visible injury/disease to Job's body, and Job was ill for some time, until God set things right.
In the case of fallen angels, such as the fallen cherubim Satan, we also know that they can appear looking like holy angels (who look like men).
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Cor 11:13
Holy angels are of the messenger-type of angel, who look like men, though sometimes glowing with light. Satan who is a cherubim (with 4 faces, 3 of animals, and 4 wings) can transform himself to appear as looking like a Holy messenger-type angel, like a man and glowing with light. And of course fallen messenger-type angels, who already look like men, can do this all the more easily.
Observations on Physical Interactions with angels:
1. There can be multiple witnesses of angels who appear looking like men
2. There can be multiple witnesses to lasting physical effects caused by angels, including illnesses, injury, and death
3. There can be supernatural occurrences that seem to defy physics, in objective reality
4. Generally reality follows normal physical laws, except for the actions of the angels
5. Physical effects can also be caused by angels that, though present, remain invisible
6. Fallen angels can appear looking like holy angels, who look like men, sometimes glowing
So far we have covered that the Bible teaches that angels can interact with people by the methods of Visions, Dreams, and can interact with people physically either while appearing as men, or while remaining invisible. The Bible also teaches that there can be limited physical interactions during a Vision that seem to combine or merge with the Vision experience itself. These limited physical interactions can leave physical effects that remain after the Vision is over.
Visions Caused by Angels Can Include Limited Physical Interactions Which Can Leave Physical Aftereffects
Let's look at an example from the book of Revelation. The entire book of Revelation contains a very long and detailed Vision given to John by a Holy angel, even though some of the terminology seems a little different at first glance,
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
In these examples John says that “he carried me away in the spirit”. The “he” that is referenced here is an angel of the Lord, a messenger of Jesus Christ, and this is established in Rev 22:8-9,
“And I John saw these things, and heard [them]. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things . Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.”
From these passages, we know that all the things John experienced in the Vision were caused by a Holy angel. An angel can “carry someone away in the spirit”, but this term is synonymous with someone having a Vision caused by an angel. We can know the term is synonymous because John also makes clear that all of this was a Vision:
And thus I saw the horses in the vision , and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses [were] as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. Rev 9:17
Altogether, the entire imagery John recorded in the book of Revelation was caused by an angel of the Lord showing John these things in a Vision. Also, the same phrases are used in Eze 11:24, “Afterwards the spirit took me up, and brought me in a vision by the Spirit of God into Chaldea, to them of the captivity. So the vision that I had seen went up from me.”
And so if one is “in the spirit”, then the Bible indicates that one is having a Vision.
What John experienced was real to all the bodily senses, even including taste, and internal feeling in his stomach, as John perceived he was experiencing all this bodily. John ate a scroll which was part of the vision, tasted it, and it was “bitter to his stomach”.
And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. Rev 10:10
In this Vision caused by a Holy angel, John was writing down what he saw and heard throughout his entire experience on a piece of paper.
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book , and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea… Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter ;
And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices , I was about to write : and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. Rev 10:4
John did not write down the Vision experience after it had ended, but while it was ongoing. What is astounding is that this paper remained with him after the experience had ended. Whether John was given the paper to write on and the writing instrument during the Vision, or if John carried these things into the experience and out of the experience later, is unknown. But in either case, John took the paper out of the Vision with him, which he had written on during the Vision, and so a greater level of lasting physical effects is shown here than in most Visions.
This example establishes that the Bible teaches an angel can cause a person to have a Vision which leaves minor physical effects or traces, like the scroll John recorded the Vision on, or even bodily effects, even internal bodily effects like his stomach becoming bitter. The Bible also teaches that angels can have physical interactions with people that can include causing people bodily injuries or illness. As Visions can include limited physical interactions with angels that leave physical aftereffects, it makes sense that Visions could possibly include physical aftereffects of injuries or illness as well.
De mogelijkheden van Fallen Angels, zoals beschreven in de Bijbel
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Visions Veroorzaakt door Angels
Kunt manipuleren van een persoon perceptie van tijd
Een visie kan ook elementen bevatten van een gevallen engel manipuleren van iemands perceptie van tijd. Een andere engelachtige ontmoeting in een passage met vergelijkbare terminologie "voerde mij weg" gebruikt de term "nam hem op". Deze kunnen worden synonieme termen. Deze ervaring wordt veroorzaakt door een engel (Satan) was waarschijnlijk ook een visie ervaring.
And the devil took him up , to a high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time Luke 4:5
(Vergelijk En hij voerde mij weg in de geest, tot een grote en hoge berg, en hij toonde mij de grote stad, het heilige Jeruzalem, nederdalende uit den hemel van God Rev 21:10)
Het Griekse woord hier voor 'moment' is "stigme" (4743), wat letterlijk betekent een "punt" van de tijd. Dit woord wordt slechts een keer gebruikt in het Nieuwe Testament, maar wordt gebruikt in het Griekse Oude Testament, de Septuaginta, in Jesaja 29:5. Het woord dat wordt vertaald als "stigme" is "Petha` "(6621), in het Hebreeuws. Volgens het Lexicon Thayer's, "Petha" betekent "de opening van de ogen", vandaar de betekenis 'een moment van tijd ". De hoeveelheid tijd gerelateerd aan hier is de hoeveelheid tijd die het kost om je ogen open. Dit is niet meer dan de tijd die het zou kosten om te knipperen. Het duurt een mens ongeveer 300 tot 400 milliseconden te knipperen, dat is 3/10ths om 4/10ths van 1 seconde.
Hoe kon Jezus zien "alle koninkrijken van de wereld" in de tijd die het kost te knipperen? Of zelfs in een volle seconde? It would seem that to be shown all the kingdoms of the world should take at least a couple hours, if not days, if a thorough tour was done. But even snapshot pictures in quick succession would take a couple minutes, and this without any time to really think about what one was seeing. En zo de benodigde hoeveelheid tijd die moet worden weergegeven alle koninkrijken van de wereld is nog steeds ongelooflijk meer dan 3/10ths van een seconde, of zelfs een volle seconde.
Deze passage houdt in dat een seconde voorbij in de tijd, maar Jezus ervaren subjectief een veel langere periode dan een seconde in die ene seconde. En zo is het mogelijk dat er tijd perceptie manipulatie in een Vision veroorzaakt (met name) door een gevallen engel. Er is een ander voorbeeld in de Bijbel van iets dergelijks op een grotere schaal, tijdens de Lange Dag Joshua.
Toen sprak Jozua tot den HEERE, ten dage als de HEERE de Amorieten voor de kinderen van Israël, en hij zei in de ogen van Israël, Zon, sta stil te Gibeon, en gij, maan, in de vallei van Ajalon. En de zon stond stil, en de maan bleef staan, totdat de mensen hadden zich gewroken op hun vijanden. Is dit niet geschreven in het boek des Oprechten? Dus de zon stond stil in het midden des hemels, en haastte niet onder te gaan omtrent een volkomen dag. En er was geen dag als dat voor hem noch na hem, dat de HEERE verhoorde de stem van een man: want de HEERE streed voor Israël Josh 10:12-14.
Deze passage zou kunnen worden geïnterpreteerd in die zin dat God kan pauzeren de voortgang van de tijd naar voren, dat de klok is onderbroken, maar de mensen nog steeds dingen doen tijdens het naar voren bewegende tijd is onderbroken. God leek te kunnen doen om de hele wereld, een grote schaal, zoals de zon stond stil in de lucht. Because the sun stood still in the sky, if time was being manipulated here (not the earth's rotation), then this was a case of forward-moving time being paused, and not a case of time travel. Maar terwijl forward-moving tijd werd gepauzeerd, op dat moment de tijd in de stof nog steeds leek aanwezig zijn, en op een manier die nog steeds toegestaan mensen samen te werken en dingen te doen.
De engelen worden "zonen van God" of "goden" bij tijden, en in deze het lijkt erop kunnen zij in staat te veroorzaken iemand iets dergelijks op zeer beperkte schaal waar te nemen. Het effect is dat van een langere periode van tijd wordt ervaren gedurende een veel kortere periode. Maar de enige bijbelse voorbeeld van een engel om dit te doen lijkt de gevallen engel Satan om dit te doen om Jezus alleen, tijdens wat was zeer waarschijnlijk een visie dat Satan was waardoor Jezus te hebben. Als een Vision, was dit een spirituele ervaring dat alleen gevolgen voor de persoon die de Visie, en niet iedereen in de fysieke werkelijkheid. De enige Bijbelse voorbeeld van een gevallen engel in staat tot tijd toe te voegen als dit, is tijdens een Vision de gevallen engel is waardoor iemand te hebben. Maar er is geen indicatie of bijbelse voorbeeld dat engelen kunnen dit doen op een grotere schaal, zoals God zelf kan doen.
Dit is logisch als God de tijd (Gen 1:01), en is daarbuiten eeuwig. Alleen Hij is "de alfa en de omega het begin en het einde" (Openb. 21:6, 22:13) en alleen God weet het einde vanaf het begin (laten zien dat engelen niet kunnen reizen in de tijd):
Denk aan de vorige dingen van oude, want Ik [ben] God, en [er is] geen ander, [ik ben] God, en [er is] geen net als ik, verkondigt het einde van het begin, en van oude tijden [de dingen] die niet zijn [nog] gedaan, zeggende: Mijn raad staan, en ik zal al mijn welbehagen doen: Isa 46:9-10
Engelen en gevallen engelen zijn nog steeds slechts geschapen wezens die ervaring lineaire tijd zoals wij dat doen, gevangen in de stroom van de tijd vooruit.
Maar de vorst van het koninkrijk van Perzie stond tegenover Mij een en twintig dagen: en ziet, Michael, een van de voornaamste vorsten, kwam mij te hulp, en ik bleef daar met de koningen van Perzië, Dan 10:13.
Daarom verheugt, [gij] hemelen, en gij, die woont in hen. Wee het bewonen van de aarde en van de zee! want de duivel is tot u nedergedaald in grote grimmigheid, want hij weet wat hij heeft maar een korte tijd. Rev 12:12
En dus terwijl een gevallen engel in staat zijn om een persoon om extra tijd waar te nemen in een visie, terwijl de lineaire tijd lijkt te zijn onderbroken te veroorzaken, is er geen indicatie dat gevallen engelen kan dit doen op een grotere schaal, zoals God kan. Hij is God die tijd, en engelen zijn slechts geschapen wezens die bestaan gevangen in de stroom van de tijd. En als dit kan verwarrend zijn, ik hoop dat het duidelijk is gemaakt dat dit niet iets te maken met de science fiction concept van tijdreizen, die in feite de Bijbel aangeeft dat gevallen engelen niet kunnen doen, en is het niet mogelijk zijn.
Echter, de Bijbel lijken erop te wijzen dat een langere tijd kan worden gecondenseerd in een kortere tijd, net als de tijd zelf is een tweede aspect of dimensie aan.
Maar, geliefden, worden niet onwetend van dit ene ding, dat een dag [is] met de Here is als duizend jaren, en duizend jaren als een dag. De Here talmt niet met zijn belofte, zoals sommige mannen aan talmen denken, maar Hij is lankmoedig voor ons-afdeling, niet willende, dat enigen verloren gaan, maar dat zij allen tot bekering komen 2 Pet 3:8-9.
Een duizend jaar van onze kan lijken een korte tijd aan God, die eeuwig is. Een duizend jaar voor ons lijkt niet een lange tijd aan Hem, maar eerder een duizend jaar van onze lijkt hem als een dag zou voor ons. Maar ook, slechts een van onze dagen, zoals waargenomen door Hem, lijkt ons te rekken door en door, zoals het was het nemen van een duizend jaar, vanuit ons perspectief. Dit kan worden als in een enkele van onze dag, de Heer is zo druk en met zo veel te doen, dat het ons zou nemen een duizend jaar om zo veel gedaan. Het kan nemen ons een duizend jaar om zo veel gedaan als Hij doet in een dag. Dit kan verwijzen naar hoe het is, dat Hij al onze gebeden hoort, en pleit voor ons allemaal,
"Wie [is] zal veroordelen? [Het is] dat Christus gestorven, ja nogal, dat weer is opgestaan, die zelfs aan de rechterhand van God, die ook bidt voor ons. "Rom 8:34
Over de hele wereld, Jezus Christus pleit voor, en hoort de gebeden van miljoenen mensen, een multi-tasking van een onbegrijpelijke soort. Een oplossing in het begrijpen van dit kan zijn dat een langere periode kan worden verkort naar beneden in een kortere periode. Tijd zelf is een ding dat werd geschapen door God, en ontworpen kunnen zijn op een zodanige wijze mogelijk te maken voor dit. Maar nogmaals, dit is een ander Bijbels voorbeeld dat een langere periode kan lijken te zijn gecondenseerd in een kortere periode. Tijd perceptie manipulatie veroorzaakt door de gevallen engel Satan gevolgd langs deze lijnen in de visie die hij leek te veroorzaken Jezus te hebben in Lucas 04:05. En dus de enige soort van de tijd te manipuleren dat er een Bijbelse precedent voor is: de tijd perceptie manipulatie van het toevoegen van tijd in een onderbroken moment. Gevallen engelen lijken te kunnen om dit te doen in beperkte mate, en het enige voorbeeld van dit in de Bijbel, het lijkt erop dat ze alleen maar kunnen dit doen in een visie die ze leiden tot een persoon te ervaren.
Een visie Veroorzaakt door een engel kan zo echt lijken Met betrekking tot de niet te onderscheiden van de Werkelijkheid
Peter kon niet zeggen of er iets echt was of een visie, en dus in Handelingen verwarde realiteit voor een visie, omdat Visions kan lijken zo zonder onderscheid echt.
Peter volgde hem (een engel) uit de gevangenis, maar hij had geen idee dat wat de engel deed was echt gebeurde, hij dacht dat hij een visioen zag "Handelingen 10:09
There is a second witness to this by Paul. Ik geloof in dit voorbeeld de Bijbel spreekt van de moeilijkheidsgraad van de verwarring in het vertellen van een van de andere, met aanwijzingen over hoe we moeten dat probleem af te handelen.
Het is niet opportuun voor mij ongetwijfeld naar de heerlijkheid. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. Ik wist dat een mens in Christus boven de veertien jaar geleden, (of in het lichaam, kan ik niet zeggen, of buiten het lichaam, ik kan niet zeggen: God weet;) zo iemand gevangen tot in de derde hemel. En ik zo'n man kende, (of in het lichaam, of buiten het lichaam, kan ik niet zeggen: God weet;) Hoe dat hij was ingehaald in het paradijs, en gehoord heeft onuitsprekelijke woorden, die niet geoorloofd is voor een man om uiten. 2 Korintiërs 12:1-4
Het woord hier voor "gevangen" is "harpazo", en hetzelfde woord gebruikt wordt in Handelingen 8:39 als "de Geest van de Heer Filippus weg, dat de kamerling zag hem niet meer". En zo zijn "gevangen" heeft toevallig een term die kan verwijzen naar de Heilige Geest beweegt iemand om een nieuwe plaats, lichamelijk zijn. Het wordt gebruikt in verwijzing naar Jezus 'hemelvaart (Openbaring 12:05) en de gelovigen worden ingehaald in de lucht te zijn met de Heer (1 Tessalonicenzen 4:17). En dus dit woord lijkt meer verwijzen naar mensen worden vervoerd door God lichamelijk.
Maar aan de andere kant, Paul maakt het ook heel duidelijk dat hij niet kan zien of de man was gevangen 'in zijn lichaam' naar de derde hemel, of gevangen 'uit zijn lichaam' naar de derde hemel. Om te begrijpen wat Paulus hier bedoelt met "uit het lichaam", moeten we kijken naar eerder in dit zelfde boek, in 2 Kor 5:4-9, waar Paulus zegt: "We vertrouwen zijn, [zeg ik], en bereid eerder afwezig uit het lichaam, en aanwezig te zijn bij de Heer. "In dit geval Paul verwijzingen naar een wiens lichaam is dood, en dus hun geest is met de Heer. Paul defines the term “out of the body” to mean one is “in spirit”.
En dus in 2 Kor 12 Paul de verwijzingen terug naar 2 Kor 5, omdat hij wist niet of de man was "uit zijn lichaam ', dat is een andere manier om te zeggen" in de geest ". Om deze samen wat Paulus zegt, is dat hij niet weet of de man werd gevangen tot in de derde hemel in zijn lichaam, of in zijn geest.
Het woord "harpazo 'en term" gevangen "is nogal synoniem met" meeslepen "of" genomen ", en dit zijn termen die worden allebei gebruikt of Visions veroorzaakt door de engelen. And indeed, in this passage Paul is referencing to “ visions and revelations of the Lord” .
In 2 Kor 5 Paulus zegt dat hij niet weet of deze man was ingehaald lichamelijk naar de derde hemel, of als de man werd gevangen in de geest van de derde hemel in een visioen veroorzaakt door een heilige engel. Many people think Paul was referring to himself in this passage, though this also may have been a story he heard in detail from whoever experience it. In ieder geval kon Paul niet achter te komen of de ervaring gebeurde lichamelijke, of was een Visie in de geest. De reden waarom Paulus kon niet achterhalen wat het geval was, omdat een visie ervaring lijkt zo echt dat het kan worden onderscheiden van de werkelijkheid.
2 Kor 12 is ons te vertellen dat het kan het onmogelijk zijn om te vertellen door de lichamelijke zintuigen als er iets was een fysieke lichamelijke ervaring, of als het alleen maar leek te zijn en werd een Visie in de geest. Echter, zo veel als Paulus geeft toe dat hij niet weet of deze man werd gevangen tot in de derde hemel in zijn lichaam of in zijn geest, ook Paulus maakt het heel duidelijk dat God kent. Dit betekent dat alleen God de antwoorden heeft, bijvoorbeeld in Zijn Woord, en door Zijn Heilige Geest. We kunnen niet alleen vertellen met onze lichamelijke zintuigen of een ervaring was in het lichaam, of een visie, maar God kan vertellen. Terwijl de mensen soms niet kunnen achterhalen of een ervaring echt was of een visie, kan God onthullen de waarheid over een ervaring aan hen die Hem daarom bidden.
Als een persoon is "meegenomen in de geest" terwijl het hebben van een visie wordt veroorzaakt door een engel, betekent dit dat een persoon de geest hun lichaam verlaat?
Nee, de Bijbel geeft aan dat een persoon die het hebben van een visie, die in de geest eigenlijk nooit hun lichaam verlaat. (Dan 7:1,15) And so we can see that while Daniel had Visions, in his spirit, that this was all in the midst of his own body (no matter where he seemed to be, or what he saw) and that the Visions he experienced were of his head, which is part of his body. Daniël had 'visioenen van zijn hoofd op zijn bed "en in het midden van de visie" was bedroefd in mijn geest in het midden van [mijn] lichaam, en de gezichten mijns hoofds beroerden mij. "(Dan 7:1,15 ) En zo kunnen we zien dat, terwijl Daniël had Visions, in zijn geest, dat dit allemaal in het midden van zijn eigen lichaam (maakt niet uit waar hij leek te zijn, of wat hij zag) en dat de visioenen die hij ervaren waren van zijn hoofd, dat is een deel van zijn lichaam. Niet alleen dat, maar al deze Visions Daniel had plaatsgevonden, terwijl hij nooit verliet zijn bed. Merk op dat een deel van deze visie opgenomen Daniël het zien van de 'Oude van Dagen', waarschijnlijk op Zijn troon, die zou worden in de derde hemel.
. Zelfs al kan een persoon lijkt om ergens anders te zijn, ze eigenlijk alleen maar "die in de geest" in het "midden van hun lichaam". De Visioenen zijn van hun hoofd, in hun geest, die in hun lichaam. Dus de Bijbel geeft hun geest nooit hun lichaam verlaat, maar ze hebben de Visie ervaring in hun geest en hun geest blijft binnenkant van hun lichaam.
Visions Veroorzaakt door Angels kunnen bevatten zowat alles
Visies kunnen bevatten instellingen of landschappen van zo ongeveer elke plaats, worden over van alles, en kan iets of iemand als een personage in de Visie zijn, en kan de perceptie van reizen zijn.
Daniël had een visie die zich waar hij stond door de rivier de Chaldea. Peter had een visie, terwijl op het dak, waar hij was, van het dak, al was hij in een trance. Dus Visions kan worden van plaatsen die een persoon een normale omgeving. John had een visie, waar hij zag de hemel, net als Jesaja (Jes. 6) en Daniel (Dan 7), en zo een visie kon worden van de hemel.
Ezechiël zag een visioen van Jeruzalem, van de tempel, dat was een echte plaats. Ezechiël had ook een visioen van een vallei vol beenderen, en toen de beenderen tot leven kwam in een leger, dit was niet van iets plaatsvindt in een werkelijke vallei ergens (Ezechiël 37). En zo Visions kan worden van echte plaatsen of uitgevonden plaatsen. Zelfs als de vallei was een echte vallei ergens, was wat Ezechiël zag eigenlijk niet plaatsvinden in deze vallei. Hoewel, was wat Ezechiël zag in Jeruzalem, die daar plaatsvinden. Dus Visions kan worden van dingen die ergens gebeuren, of dingen die niet daadwerkelijk gebeurt ergens (maar symbolisch zijn, en van de waarheid worden onderwezen alleen in het geval van de visies van de Heilige engelen).
Ezechiël ervaren de perceptie van reizen in een Vision (Eze 8, Eze 40), en Daniel leek in de buurt van een grote zee in zijn Vision (Dan 7) en zo Visions kan lijken om te reizen of zich in een andere locatie op te nemen. Maar Daniël maakt duidelijk dat hij was nergens te gaan tijdens zijn visioenen, maar was in zijn bed, terwijl hij ze had.
Ezechiël zag mensen in de Visie van de vallei van de botten. Johannes zag mensen in zijn visie van Openbaring, evenals vreemd uitziende wezens sprinkhaan, engelen, een draak, een vreemd beest met zeven koppen en de lichaamsdelen van verschillende dieren. De personages in een visioen zou kunnen worden in de vorm van mensen, echt of niet, engelen, dieren die er bestaan, en de vreemde wezens die niet bestaan. Maar net als een kunstenaar kan trekken een cartoon van ongeveer alles, en elke plaats, zo kan een engel leiden tot een visie te bevatten zo ongeveer elk landschap of tekens.
Wat wordt gezien in een visioen kan wild variëren en zijn van bijna alles. Tijdens een visie van een persoon kan zien engelen, mensen, entiteiten, levende wezens, landschappen van vreemde plaatsen, of van bekende degenen, evenals het waarnemen die zij ervaren reizen naar verschillende plaatsen. Toch is dit alles slechts een onderdeel van de Vision veroorzaakt door de engel, en de Bijbel leert, net als Daniël, dat de mensen niet echt ergens heen, ongeacht wat zij zien tijdens een Vision.
De mogelijkheden van Fallen Angels, zoals beschreven in de Bijbel
Chapter 4 – Summary of Visions, and False Visions Caused by Fallen Angels
The Bible summarily teaches several things about Visions caused by angels:
1. A Vision can seem totally real to a single bodily sense (like sight) or to all of the bodily senses, and a person's self-perception is usually that they are in their body.
2. A Vision can affect one person or multiple people, though they may perceive it differently
3. A Vision can occur in a waking state, or in a trance state
4. A Vision can be causes by a visible angel, or an invisible angel
5. A Vision can involve some physical effects that remain afterwards, such as objects that remain with a person, and bodily effects, even internal ones.
6. A Vision can involve manipulation of a person's perception of time, like an hour in a minute.
7. A Vision can contain just about any landscape, or any sort of characters, and can seem to involve travel, even though the person doesn't actually go anywhere
8. A Vision can seem so real to the bodily senses that it is indistinguishable from reality, even in the case of people who are experienced with Visions, though God knows and can reveal the truth
This level of power in the hands of fallen angels is staggering to conceptualize. I thank God that they are limited in what they can do, and who they can do it to, by God's laws of spiritual authority grounds. A fallen angel can only attack someone if they have spiritual authority grounds and rights to do so. God places a “hedge of protection” around people, limiting whom the fallen angels can harass and harm, and limiting the level of harassment and the extent of the harm that they can do to a person. (See Job 1 and 2, also the New Testament is full of this concept. This also involves the concept of spiritual warfare, see Resources at end for further information.) It is also a relief to know that for every fallen angel, there are 2 Holy angels working for God and Jesus; and so the fallen angels are outnumbered two to one. Additionally Jesus Christ assures believers in Him: Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19
False Dreams and False Visions caused by Fallen Angels
We have covered Visions that were had by people who were prophets, or those with the gift of the Holy Spirit of prophecy, such as Daniel, John, Ezekiel, Peter and Paul. Even in the case of Joseph having a dream of an angel, telling him to flee to Egypt, this also was a prophetic warning given by a Holy angel. When Holy angels cause people to have a dream or a Vision they are delivering a message, but often these messages are classified by the Bible as “prophecy” and those who have them as “prophets”.
In the Bible, prophecy is heavily associated with a person having dreams or Visions. And as we have established, dreams and Visions can be caused by Holy angels, who are God's messengers.
“And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy , and your young men shall see visions , and your old men shall dream dreams ” Acts 2:17
“And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, [I] the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision , [and] will speak unto him in a dream .” Num 12:6
And so a person who has a dream or a Vision caused by a Holy angel is classified by the Bible as a prophet. And while an angel delivers a message to the prophet, the prophet in turn delivers the message on to other people. The Strong's definition of prophet is a “spokesman, speaker”, and to prophesy is to “a) be under the influence of a divine spirit” or to be “b) a false prophet”.
The Bible also mentions false prophets. True prophets have true Visions that are caused by Holy angels sent by God. But the Bible teaches that false prophets have False Visions and Vain Visions.
“Have ye not seen a vain vision , and have ye not spoken a lying divination , whereas ye say, The LORD saith [it]; albeit I have not spoken? Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I [am] against you, saith the Lord GOD. And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity , and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.” Eze 13:7-9
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination , and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:14
False prophets have False Visions, and these are caused by Fallen angels who lie and deceive.
And he saith, `Therefore, hear a word of the Lord; I have seen the Lord sitting on His throne, and all the host of the heavens [angels] standing by Him, on His right and on His left; and the Lord saith, Who doth entice Ahab, and he doth go up and fall in Ramoth-Gilead? and this one saith thus, and that one is saying thus. `And a spirit came out, and stood before the Lord, and saith, I — I do entice him; and the Lord saith unto him, By what? and he saith, I go out, and have been a spirit of falsehood in the mouth of all his prophets ; and He saith, Thou dost entice, and also thou art able; go out and do so. 1 Kin 22:19-22
In this passage the angels were around God's throne, and an angel admits to having been communicating deception or lies to the false prophets. God permissively allows this deceptive angel to continue to do what the falling angel himself is able to do, and chooses to do. And so the Bible teaches that fallen angels do communicate lies and deception to false prophets. And this is by the method of false dreams and False Visions, which false prophets are reported to have.
Beyond false messages which fallen angels can communicate in False Visions or dreams, they can also use False Visions and dreams to simply harass and frighten people, to a terrible extent. While Job was under a series of attacks caused by Satan, a fallen angel, Job records:
When I say, My bed shall comfort me, my couch shall ease my complaint; Then you scare me with dreams and terrify me with visions so that I would choose strangling and death rather than my bones. Job 7:13-15
And so the Bible teaches that fallen angels can victimize people with their ability to cause dreams and Visions, using these to scare and terrify, even to the point of severe traumatization from them. Job here experiences severe depression, longing to die rather than deal with these terrifying dreams and Visions. It seems various other psychological symptoms besides severe depression could result from these experiences as well, as Job's account here shows they can be very traumatic, and different people handle trauma in different ways.
Along with this, fallen angels can also cause False Dreams and False Visions to communicate a lying or deceptive message, false information, to a person with the intent that the person might become a false prophet, who shares the false message as truth.
This is part of why the Bible warns that people must test spirits, not just believe them, as these fallen angels are at war against all of humanity, to deceive us:
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (1 Jn 4:1) and as Jesus said, ″Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.” (Matt 24:11)
But even in the midst of this war followers of Jesus Christ can have God's reassurance,
Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels, nor principalities nor powers [fallen angels], nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:37-39
Chapter 5 - Alien Abduction Experiences
False Visions and Terrifying Dreams
Next we will compare modern alien abduction accounts to the Biblically based abilities of Fallen angels. The Bible teaches that Fallen angels can cause False dreams and False Visions.
In False Visions causes by Fallen angels:
1. A Vision can seem totally real to a single bodily sense (like sight) or to all of the bodily senses, and a person's self-perception is usually that they are in their body.
2. A Vision can affect one person or multiple people, though they may perceive it differently
3. A Vision can occur in a waking state, or in a trance state
4. A Vision can be causes by a visible angel, or an invisible angel
5. A Vision can involve some physical effects that remain afterwards, such as objects that remain with a person, and bodily effects, even internal ones.
6. A Vision can involve manipulation of a person's perception of time, like an hour in a minute.
7. A Vision can contain just about any landscape, or any sort of characters, and can seem to involve travel, even though the person doesn't actually go anywhere
8. A Vision can seem so real to the bodily senses that it is indistinguishable from reality, even in the case of people who are experienced with Visions, though God knows and can reveal the truth
What is experienced in “alien abduction” accounts?
Abductees report in their experiences that in some cases the experience feels completely real to the bodily senses, sight, hearing, touch, taste, smell, and time perception. Abductees can be adamant that some of these experiences were NOT dreams, but occurred in a waking state. Here are some common events in abductee accounts:
Seeing aliens of a wide variety of types
Walking through walls (themselves or seeing aliens do so)
Defying gravity (flying or floating themselves, or seeing aliens/spacecraft do so)
Travel to outer-space, other planets, and other galaxies, with no suit or spacecraft, and Travel to outerspace in spacecraft
Impossible scenarios, like breathing underwater or in viscous liquid, without drowning
Not breathing for a half hour or more in air, without suffocating or dying
Electromagnetic disturbances, electronic malfunctions
Alicein wonderland sorts of landscapes
Aliens' bodies shape-shifting into new forms
Injuries that only last until the end of the experience
Injuries that remain after the experience, sometimes mostly healed and leaving scars
Strange or rare illnesses
Medical-like examinations and procedures including needles and drills
Time perception disturbances and manipulation, time loss, time gain
Sexual molestation, assault and rape
Miscarriages and false pregnancies with supernatural aspects
Physical pain and torture
Partial or complete paralysis during experience
As you can see, these experiences are often highly confusing, painful, and violating.
Now let's look at some individual alien abductee accounts.
The case of “Robert” summarized from CE4 Research Group's case files:
On a Monday, Joe and Robert had a conversation. Robert said he had been having abduction experiences with colorful light beings for a year. Each being was a different color, and looked much like the light-people in the movie Cocoon. He described that it felt real to his bodily senses, and he seemed in his body, however he did not need to breathe during his experiences.
Later that week, on Thursday, Robert was in a car with his girlfriend. Robert slumped over like he passed out unconscious while in the car, and his girlfriend was with him. Robert experienced a long period of conscious time during what he later recounted as being like a vision with the beings. He felt he seemed to have gone somewhere else. However, to Robert's girlfriend, he was in a trance state that only lasted a minute or so. But he experienced several hours' worth of experiences, during the minute he was passed out. As his girlfriend was there with him, she saw he did not go anywhere, his body did not leave. Just in that week, since first talking to Joe, the experiences had turned very bad, and the light-beings were being very nasty to him, and Robert wanted the experiences to stop. Robert could somehow feel that an experience was about to happen, before it happened, precipitating the entities attacks on him. Telling his girlfriend beforehand, Robert had a second experience the same evening.
-Joe Jordan, CE4Research, Unholy Communion: The Unwanted Piece of the UFO Puzzle www.ce4research.com
Robert said he had been having abduction experiences with colorful light beings much like the light-people in the movie Cocoon. He described that it felt real to his bodily senses, and that he seemed to be in his body; however he did not need to breathe during his experiences.
Robert had 2 experiences while seeming to pass out in a trance, which seemed to last hours for him, but his girlfriend said he was only in this state for a few minutes.
Afterwards, Robert called Joe, telling him what had been happening to him that day. While on the phone, Robert could feel another attack coming on. This was the third experience that day, and he was again in a trance state, for a couple of minutes. His girlfriend, present, saw this, and talked to Joe on the phone while this was ongoing. When Robert's experience ended, he got back on the phone and related to Joe that the beings who were attacking Robert told Robert that they “hated Joe” because he understood what was happening to Robert.
The next morning Joe and a Christian co-worker went to Robert's house and met with him and his girlfriend. While there, Robert felt another attack coming on, but before he was forced into a trance again, they rebuked the entities in the name and authority of Jesus Christ, and Robert said he could feel the entities disappear, stopping the attack.
-Joe Jordan, CE4Research, Unholy Communion: The Unwanted Piece of the UFO Puzzle www.ce4research.com
As I mentioned earlier, time manipulation seems to occur in the Bible during False Visions caused by fallen angels. In this case, the experience could have been a False Vision, and matches the Biblical description very well. Robert experienced time manipulation, and the experiences were real to his bodily senses, and at the same time during his experiences he did not breathe for impossibly long periods of time (that is, his subjective time).
The case of Robert was of a False Vision which was real to the bodily senses, it fully overlaid objective reality, happened in a waking trance state, to one person. But there was a witness with Robert that saw him go into a trance state, and remained with him throughout. This shows, as is recorded in Daniel, that he did not go anywhere, but rather had these False Visions in his spirit, in his body, while remaining where he was.
This next case from an “alien abductee” is from “Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda” by the late Dr. Karla Turner PhD.
“Lisa had some conscious memories of encounters with the typical Grays, as well as missing-time episodes, multiple-witnessed UFO sightings, unexplained body marks, telepathic communications from unseen sources, and many dream-memories of ambiguous reality – except in those instances where other evidence pointed to an actual event. While the details of Lisa's life-long involvement are certainly very typical, the alien intrusions are clearly more intense and frequent than in many such cases…
In 1980, however, Lisa did see something very different from the shadows, in a terrifying event. “A being appeared to me,” she recalled, “when I was a couple of weeks pregnant. We had just got into bed and Neal already seemed 'out of it,' and the being appeared on the end of the bed, squatting, telling me mentally the child I was carrying was special and it would be a boy. I almost had a fainting spell. I threw the covers over my head as the being was leaping toward me, I believe, and said, 'In Jesus' name, take it away!' It disappeared, and I fell quickly asleep. It was about three feet tall, dark-skinned, leathery looking. I don't remember anything else.”
-Karla Turner PhD, Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda, Pg. 36-37
I would also say this case was a False Vision, partially overlaying objective reality, in a waking state, and happening to one person. When rebuked in Jesus' name the False Vision ended, and what she was seeing disappeared.
Transcribed from the Cursed Net internet radio show, the next case describes multiple witnesses seeing a UFO over a populated area.
“ Byron : That beings me to the question of when did you first see a UFO? And how did it affect you?
Kathy : The first UFO I saw I was probably in my very early 20s, there were three other people with me and we all saw it, only one of them remembers seeing it, and none of us remember what we did the rest of the day…
Byron : How could you forget such a strange instance, and its also puzzling to me how you could not remember what you did for the rest of the day, after an event like that, could that indicate this expression called “missing time”, may have taken place right at that time?
Kathy : That's what I'm taking for granted now… I mean we had a long drive home, a couple of hours from where we were at the time, and none of us remember, we don't even remember that weekend, I mean the next few days we all went, “What did we do Saturday? I don't remember.” You know, but it gets fuzzier and fuzzier as the years go on…
Byron : What did it look like?
Kathy : It was huge, we were on a street with houses on both sides that backed up to a beach, and we were walking to our vehicles, and it came over us, and the reason I think we looked up is because it got dark, it was like the sun went away, and you could see the bottom of a … the starship enterprise, it was like mechanical looking stuff on the bottom, but you couldn't see the beginning or the end of it, you could see it went past the houses on that side of the street, it went past the houses on [the other] that side of the street, as far as you could see in both directions, up and down, its like we were seeing just a teeny piece of the bottom of a huge spaceship… And there was virtually no sound either, that's something one of the other people who was with me said about it, because I remember us saying that “It's not making any sound at all” while we were looking up.”
-Byron LeBeau, Richard Stout and Greg Messina, www.thecursednet.com , www.blogtalkradio.com/cursednet
with guest Kathy Land (1/5/09)
Happening in a populated area, in which a huge sun-blocking UFO would be arguably noticed by the residents, local police, and local news, this event seems more likely to be a False Vision than any sort of Physical Manifestation. This was a False Vision shared by a group of people, who were all under a deceptive attack with False Visions at the same time. This waking False Vision seemed to only partially overlay objective reality, in that the UFO was seen but not heard to make any sound at all, while hovering over the neighborhood. But there were multiple victims which saw the vision, and missing time was noted by all involved. Missing time is can be described as a type of time perception manipulation. All of this matches what the Bible teaches is possible with False Visions caused by Fallen angels.
Once an abductee, Kathy is now a former abductee, and a Christian, whose experiences have been terminated from happening in her life, by the name and authority of Jesus Christ.
The next case is of Maureen:
“Arriving at the nominated spot, all 3 people then sat in Maureen's car. She saw the same “man” had appeared just outside the vehicle. Neither of the other 2, Judith Magee or Paul Norman, could see anything unusual present. Maureen says that the “man” was beckoning her to join him outside the vehicle. She refused to get out of the car.
Suddenly, according to the others present, Maureen “fainted”. She began a verbal description to them whilst she was in this apparent state of unconsciousness. She related she was in a round room somewhere, which was lit, but there was no visible source of illumination. This scene was indistinguishable from the consensus reality that we call “real life”.
The “man” just appeared in the room, in which there was also a mushroom shaped object rising up from the floor. This was stemmed, with a broad domed top. There appeared to be an inner hemisphere, wobbling around, and it was covered with what looked to be hieroglyphics on it. The “man” told her to describe what she could see, and this she did, to be heard by the 2 in the car. She could see no doors, or windows in this room, and so began to be scared. She started to cry, then woke, still in the car, with tears in her eyes, saying she could not remember anything that had just occurred. The 2 in the car filled her in on what had transpired.”
-Keith Basterfield, “Maureen Puddy: An Australian Abductee Physically Present During An Abduction”, 1992, As presented at the 1992 Abduction Study Conference at MIT
Two different aspects of False Visions are distinctly represented here. The first, like that of Kathy, was a partial overlaying onto objective reality in a waking state. However, unlike Kathy's case in which all the people saw the UFO, in this case only Maureen saw the entity outside the car, while two people with her did not see it. Maureen alone was having a False Vision, while those with her were not. I would like to point out the same pattern occurs with “ghost encounters” in which someone with supposedly “special sight or powers” can see the ghosts but others with them cannot.
The second False Vision seen here was a full overlaying of objective reality, in a trance state. This is very similar to the case of Robert. The experiences were real to the bodily senses for Maureen, and she seemed to be somewhere else. But in this case Maureen was speaking to people with her while in the trance state, and in her case the passage of time seemed normal. Although she perceived herself in her body in another location in a way that felt real to all of her bodily senses, she never left the car and the two people with her. Maureen also spoke out loud to the people with her during this False Vision experience.
The next case may be of an extreme case of time perception manipulation, or there may be some other explanation for the experience. But we are going to cover this case assuming the time perception manipulation is factual as is recounted with insistence by the abductee. And time perception manipulation as we have covered occurs in False Visions. “The Mars Records” and “The Mars Records 2” detail probably the most extreme case of time perception manipulation I have read about in a False Vision, which is said to have lasted for a subjective period of 20 years. The entirety of the books by Stephanie Relfe, is about the experiences of her husband Michael, with many details.
To summarize, Michael was a childhood abductee, who in the 70s enlisted in the US military. In 1976 Michael had a very unusual experience. He remembered enlisting in a special military program. He then experienced traveling through a “portal” to Mars.
He experienced what seemed to be 20 years of time, which he spent on Mars, and afterwards he perceived his body was made younger and he perceived he traveled back through the “portal” to 1976. Then he was back on Earth, and the time was about a week after he remembers leaving to Mars. During those perceived 20 years he remembers being stationed on the planet Mars on a US military base, working in a Top Secret military operation. He remembers having a wife on Mars, who died on Mars. There were many aliens throughout his experiences, Grays and Reptilians, as well as a Martian population of millions of human people.
In several incidents in the books, the fallen angels include in the False vision a piece of technology, a “portal”, which is portrayed as a time travel machine. As seen in other cases, time can seem to be gained subjectively during abductions, in time perception manipulation. However, in the case of Robert mentioned earlier, while he experienced hours during a minute, his body did not actually go anywhere. This is known as a witness remained with his body for those objective minutes during his subjectively hours-long experiences. As such, actual physical time travel did not take place in either of these cases, but rather the False Vision enabled subjective time perception manipulation.
I would describe this 20-year experience of Michael as a False Vision, of extreme subjective duration in time perception manipulation. Other experiences in the book seem to involve Physical manifestation along with the False Visions.
It is important to note that sometimes fallen angels do cause abductees to see “humans” during a False Vision; however these are not real humans, but instead are part of the vision caused by the fallen angel (exceptions being cases of a group of people attacked together by fallen angels).
In many cases in which fallen angels cause False Visions of humans, the humans are military personnel, and advanced technology appears to be present, these kinds of abductions are called “Mil-abs” for “military abductions”. Except in rare cases of actual government investigation of abductions and interviews with abductees, these Mi-labs are caused by fallen angels, and are just a subset variety of more typical “alien abduction” experiences. The entire experience, like other False visions, is a vision, including the military personnel and advanced technology the person sees.
Remember, these experiences are real to the bodily senses, and the perception of time passage seems normal to the abductee during the experience. Fallen angels sometimes do display technology in False visions, technology which (deceptively) seems to work time travel, which adds a new layer of confusion for the abductee. Fallen angels have expansive supernatural abilities, which they were originally created with by God, and the technology seen is just part of the False vision, which is a deception.
About 2 years after this 20-subjective-year False vision of Mars, in the late 1970s, Michael became a Christian. In the book he gives God and the Lord Jesus Christ credit for his deliverance from the enemy.
“This book is dedicated to God and the Lord Jesus Christ, for without them this book would never have been written… I want to thank the LORD JESUS CHRIST, my saviour for His mercy and blessings and for removing me from the hands of the enemy. It is only by His love and grace that I am on the road to recovery from the effects of mind control and manipulation…
“I also know that the enemy cannot do anything to me unless God allows it and that God has given me weapons to fight back (see the section on deliverance). I will use those weapons without hesitation…
“I believe that only God has the answer for what is happening to the world at this times and that spiritual warfare is a vital part of His ministry for these end times. It is clear that spiritual warfare and deliverance is the only thing that has not been used against these projects and that God's weapons are superior to the weapons of the enemy.”
-The Mars Records, www.metatech.org Dedication, Thank You pgs. 262
According to their website, Michael and Stephanie Relfe, both abductees, have been completely free from abductions for over 7 years now. They say this is from using spiritual warfare and deliverance methods, and through the name and authority of the Lord Jesus Christ.
In reference to being set free from abductions, Michael writes in The Mars Records 2, pg. 205: “You can do the exact same things as I have if you have a personal relationship with The Lord Jesus Christ and if you have faith and follow the warfare prayers in this document. Prayer does not rely on metaphysical abilities or training. I myself do NOTHING. God performs the miracles.”
So far we have covered a variety of False visions, but the next case of Howard, from CE4 Research Group, is one of terrifying dreams.
“…I was not a Christian at this time either. The next experiences I had with the Greys was several years after that when they decided to 'contact' me personally. I remember having a strange dream about them; it wasn't anything bad but just strange, strange enough for me to remember it. I remember laughing about it to someone I knew. The very next night was absolutely terrifying and it left me in no doubt that I was under attack. In my dream I was running away from a UFO and it kept swooping down and buzzing me with its energy. Its energy was one of indescribable terror and malevolence.
Anyway the next day I was quite alarmed because I knew these weren't just dreams and that I was dealing with something quite evil and dangerous. Things got worse and worse because they kept at me every night. It got to the point where I became too afraid to go to sleep because I knew they were waiting for me. Have you ever seen the film nightmare on Elm Street? Well I was living that. I do remember in my dreams that I used violence on them, but this did not harm them not even in the slightest. To be honest with you, I think they quite enjoyed it; it was like a game for them. I was getting extremely desperate; I couldn't work or think because I was too afraid to sleep so I was tired all the time.”
-CE4 Research Group, the Testimony of Howard, www.alienresistance.org/ce4testimonies.htm
This case described UFOs and “gray aliens” appearing in nightmares, which were so terrible they were causing him to be afraid to go to sleep. This is like the terrifying dreams and visions Job describes in the Bible, which he experienced while under attacks from Satan.
Howard later describes turning to the Bible for answers, and soon being set free from having these dreams which were destroying his life. He credits Jesus Christ and God with having freed him from these dreams.
Chapter 6 – Alien Abduction Experiences
I am only going to be including one case example of the Physical Manifestation of a fallen angel, known as the Malmstrom UFO Incident. I think many Physical manifestations do take place today, in minor ways. Many of these could arguably be found on TV shows such as “Ghost Hunters” and similar paranormal shows, which record “voices of ghosts”, and things like that. Also, there are supposedly many real photos or videos of orbs, ghosts, and even UFOs and aliens on the internet. This seems to be physical manifestation, perhaps directly onto film. And this is besides the injuries which abductees get during False Vision experiences. These all seem to be minor physical manifestations which go along with False Vision experiences. But I am only going to be including one case of physical manifestation, which seems to be a major incident, and shows more of the extreme line that fallen angels seem to be crossing today.
There are many declassified military reports, documenting military encounters with UFOs. I hope these have a level of credibility that is acceptable. I only am personally aware of one such documented military reporting that fits the supernatural requirements to clearly show it was a Physical Manifestation of fallen angels. This is due to a supernaturally caused electronic malfunction that is otherwise unexplainable.
March 16, 1967
“Early in the morning on the sixteenth, at Malmstrom AFB in Montana, one of the most extraordinary events in the history of military-UFO encounters took place. Under a clear and dark Montana sky, an airman with the Oscar Flight Launch Control Center (LCC) saw a starlike object zigzagging high above him. Soon, a larger and closer light also appeared and acted in similar fashion. He called his NCO, and the two men watched inawe as the lights streaked through the sky, maneuvering in impossible ways. The NCO phoned his commander, Robert Salas, who was below ground in the launch control center. Salas was dubious. “Great,” he said. “You just keep watching them and let me know if they get any closer.”
A few minutes later, the NCO called Salas again. As Salas later wrote, this time he was clearly frightened and shouted that a red, glowing UFO was hovering outside the front gate. “What do you want us to do?” asked the NCO. Salas told him to make sure the site was secure while he phoned the command post. “Sir,” replied the NCO, “I have to go now, one of the guys just got injured.” Before Salas could ask about the injury, the NCO was off the line. The man, who was not seriously injured, was evacuated by helicopter to the base. Meanwhile, Salas woke his commander, Lt. Fred Meiwald. As he briefed Meiwald, an alarm rang through the small capsule, and both men saw a “No-Go” light turn on for one of the missiles. Within seconds, several more missiles went down in succession.
Twenty miles away, at the Echo-Flight launch facilities, the same scenario was taking place. First Lt. Walter Figel, the deputy crew commander of the Missile Combat Crew, was at his station when one of the Minuteman missiles went into “No-Go” status. He immediately called the missile site to determine the cause of the problem. Was it because of the scheduled missile maintenance, he asked the security guard? No, came the response, as the maintenance had not yet taken place. However, continued the guard, a UFO had been hovering over the site. Like Salas, Figel doubted the story. Before he had any time to reflect on this, however, ten more ICBMs in rapid succession reported a “No-Go” condition. Within seconds, the entire flight was down.
Strike teams were dispatched to two of the E-flight launch facilities, where maintenance crews were already at work. Figel had not told the strike teams about the UFO report. Upon their arrival, however, the teams reported back to him that all of the maintenance and security personnel had been watching UFOs hover over each of the sites.
The missiles were down for the greater part of a day. The air force investigation included full-scale tests on-site, as well as laboratory tests at the Boeing Company's Seattle plant. No cause for the shutdown could be found. The Boeing engineering chief said, “there was no technical explanation that could explain the event.”
-Richard M. Dolan, UFOs and theNationalSecurityState, Pgs. 322-323
In the Malmstrom UFO incident, UFOs are associated with the supernatural electronic malfunction of at least 15 nuclear ICBMs. Scientists and engineers examined what had happened, and concluded “there was no technical explanation that could explain the event”. As such I would say these UFOs were caused by a fallen angel causing a large group to have a False Vision of the form of a UFO. But at the same time, fallen angels also physically manifested, so as to cause supernatural electronic malfunctions to several nuclear missiles in the immediate vicinity. This technological malfunction is a more major documented event of physical manifestation of fallen angels, which left behind documented military records as evidence that this event occurred, as well as some military personnel who claim to have witnessed this event.
Chapter 7 - Alien Abduction Experiences
False Visions Combined with Partial Physical Manifestation
The next cases of Fallen Angelic Attacks are of False Visions which are combined with Partial Physical Manifestation.
The Valdes Case
“On April 25, 1977, Valdés, along with five members of an army patrol, saw two bright objects descending from the sky. Valdés set out alone to investigate and, according to the men, simply vanished. Fifteen minutes later, they said, he reappeared, tried to speak and passed out. The date on his watch had been advanced five days, and he had about a week's growth of beard.”
-Cate Setterfield, Armed Forces Reveal UFO Presence in Chile, TheValparaiso Times 2/11/07
“The corporal moved toward the object. He disappeared for some 15 minutes. When he reappeared, he was shaking and his voice seemed different. The light had been illuminating the whole area…He then became unconscious and was attended by his fellow men till he awoke some two hours later. The UFO also disappeared about this time. While the unconscious Corporal Valdes was assisted by his patrol, his men made another strange observation. They saw that Valdes had a beard growth equivalent to several days without shaving. He had been well shaven before the incident. As Valdes awoke he exclaimed, “I don't remember anything from the moment I left you.” He then ordered, ”Get ready to leave because it's 4:30 in the morning. It was actually about 7 AM. His calendar watch had stopped at 4:30 but the date was five days advanced – to the 30th instead of the 25th.”
-Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (APRO), 1977
Much like the Biblical account of Jesus tempted by Satan seen in Luke 4, in which Jesus experienced a far longer period of time in less than a second, the Valdes case shows time perception manipulation. In principle, this is the same thing.
In the Valdes case, the time manipulation seems very physical instead of perceptual, because his watch was moved ahead by 5 days, and he had 5 days growth of a beard, after only 15 minutes of time passing in objective reality. It also seems very physical because he disappeared for 15 minutes and his men could not see him. As such, this seems to be a case of a False Vision couple with powerful Physical Manifestation seen in the effects on Valdes' body.
One way to look at this is that, like the boils of Job described in Biblical Physical Manifestations onto the body, a fallen angel was able to supernaturally cause rapid hair growth, and also alter Valdes' watch. The men might have been blocked with a group False Vision, from being able to see Valdes, even if he was nearby within normal sight distance. This is similar to the case of Peter escaping from prison in that no one could see him. There is nothing in this case that necessitates that Valdez went anywhere, merely that those with him could no longer see him. And there is nothing here that proves his body experienced 5 days worth of time in 15 minutes, but the simplest explanation would be that fallen angels affected his body supernaturally to grow hair very quickly, and altered his watch.
And so there is nothing in this case which “must” indicate the science fiction concept of “time travel”. Nothing in this case shows that Valdes traveled backwards in time, or that he traveled forward in time more than anyone else did (that being 15 minutes). Valdes' experiences during the abduction are unknown, but even if he had reported he subjectively experienced 5 days worth of time in 15 minutes, this would have been time perception manipulation in a False Vision. This is a separate matter from the hair growth, and his watch changing, and other people not being able to see him. The simplest explanation is that this entire event was staged with the goal in mind of deception, it being caused by fallen angels whose goal is to deceive.
In a cases like this one, and as in the case of Michael Relfe, it becomes apparent that fallen angels want people to believe that they can time travel – which in itself is a good reason to not believe such – but there are alternate explanations for everything which occurred in this case which match Biblical teaching on what fallen angels are known to be able to do. However, there is nothing in the Bible which teaches that angels can time travel, and in opposition, the Bible does teach that God has absolute authority over time, and appoints things to happen at certain times, which fallen angels cannot interfere with, or alter. Jesus Christ is “the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end”.
The next case of Anita is a good overview of physical injuries that many abductees have after fallen angelic attacks:
“Anita has been consciously aware of UFO activity since childhood, and her brothers and sisters have also had recurrent UFO events throughout their lives. So, perhaps, may have some of Anita's children and grandchildren…
So are the various marks and injuries she has discovered on her body . “Lots of mornings,” Anita said, “I have gotten up feeling like someone beat me up in my sleep .” This is another common abductee report, waking up with sore, damaged-feeling muscles and joints. “ I have waked up with bruises on my arms, shoulders, and legs ,” she continued, “with no idea where they came from. I have found scratches that I could not remember having gotten the day before .”
The evidence for vigorous physical activity during the night, although unremembered, comes from more than just Anita's sore or scarred body, however. In one incident, she woke up in the morning and felt an unfamiliar pain in her right hand. “I sat up in bed,” she explained, “and found that sometime during the night my ring had been squashed on my finger .” She managed with effort to remove the ring, but neither her husband nor a jeweler could completely restore its original shape .
On another occasion, Anita got out of bed one morning and found the crucifix from her necklace lying on the floor . “ It had been on my neck the night before,” she said, “and the chain was still on [me]. But the only way to remove the crucifix is to remove the necklace and take it off the chain.”
She has also awakened several mornings to discover that something had happened to her clothing, a report frequently echoed by other abductees. In one instance, she woke up with her nightie on backward , although she was certain she had not taken it off, turned it around, and put it back on. And on a different occasion she found that the nightie was not only backward but had also been turned inside-out . In the night during one of these events, she had an altered-state experience in which she recalled a group of Tan aliens observing her as she was “free-falling,” an event which did not feel unduly upsetting for some reason…. Anita had quite a severe reaction to another similar event, however, venting much more emotion than the situation seemed to call for. It was in the winter, during the Christmas holidays one night, and she had worn socks to bed for extra warmth. When she woke up the next day and found that one of her socks was missing ,…Anita was also physically upset that morning, suffering from a violent headache and nausea which caused her to vomit, yet there was no illness to account for the symptoms. Still, she might not have been overly concerned about the vanished sock and her physical problems, if her young granddaughter hadn't made a disturbing comment…The seven-year-old child told her grandmother that some “mean men” had come in and taken her away during the night . When Anita asked her to describe the “mean men,” the little girl called them “the mushroom men .”
“What are the mushroom men?” Anita asked, and her granddaughter then found the book MISSING TIME by Budd Hopkins and pointed to the drawing on the cover.…The girl said the creatures were about a foot tall, gray-skinned and had four fingers rather than five-a detail not apparent in the cover picture. There were quite a few of these entities present, she said. Anita remembered nothing strange that night herself, but the physical symptoms, the missing sock, and her granddaughter's story were indicative enough of an intrusive incident to be of great concern.”
-Karla Turner PhD, Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda, Pgs. 46, 50-51
As for Physical Manifestation, there were physical aftereffects that remained and were seen by others, such as her bent ring. The case of Anita is a good overview of physical injuries that many abductees have after this type of fallen angelic attack.
In this case there was another person involved, her 7 year old granddaughter that saw part of the experience, and this part was a case of a False Vision seen by multiple people. As in the Valdes case, part of the False Vision on the child was her grandmother seemed to be missing, in that she was unseen and not visible for a period of time. And the child in the False Vision also saw her grandmother be taken, deceiving her into thinking her grandmother has went somewhere. But the simplest explanation is that Anita did not go anywhere, but that her and her granddaughter both experienced False Visions that night. And this along with various degrees of Physical manifestation throughout Anita's experiences, including objects moved, and injuries, and physical illness.
It is important to note that innocent children can be attacked by fallen angels, as in this case, and this is a type of generational curse. While on that topic, another case from Karla Turner's book Taken is of a child (though this case does not involve Physical manifestation):
“When I was seven or eight years old,” Beth related, “my father gave us permission, my sister and me, to go outside and play with the other children, who were playing hide-and-seek. It was close to six in the evening. I remember that I went to hide between some bushes, and then I heard a sound, somebody else. And as I turned, I saw what I thought at that moment was one of the other kids.
“The next thing I know,” she continued, “it was dark, and I was very surprised. When I got home, my father was very mad at me and my mother was very upset. My father told me that they had been calling me and looking for me for hours. But I couldn't understand it,” she said. “The place where I was hiding was less than a hundred feet from the front of the house. I was hiding there, and it was daylight, and then the next thing I know it was dark-and I was scared.
“Recently I had another memory about that,” she added. “That kid I thought was there, he was an alien, one of the Grays. He took me to a ship, but I don't remember what happened after that.”
-Karla Turner PhD, Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda, Pg. 56
I think the most efficient way to explain this case is that first the child Beth had a False Vision of an “alien” approaching her, which overlaid onto objective reality. Then Beth was effectively hidden from her parents by fallen angels by a False Vision her parents were caused to have, which kept them from seeing their daughter as they looked for her. While this was going on, the child Beth experienced a False Vision of being with Grays on a ship. A combination of various aspects of False Visions would suffice to explain this experience.
This case is somewhat reminiscent of the abduction case of Travis Walton, who was missing for 5 days, and remembered only 2 hours. I do feel that the explanation for the case of Beth is also an adequate explanation for the Walton case. He was present, but all those involved in searching for him were prevented from seeing him. The main difference is that he was made unconscious for the majority of the 5 days, except for the 2 hours in which he experienced a False Vision.
Chapter 8 – Modern Physics and the Abilities of Fallen Angels
False Visions, Dreams, and Physical Manifestation
And so after looking at several “alien abduction” cases it seems that the abilities of Fallen angels to cause False Visions (and all that entails) and terrifying dreams, as well as elements of Physical manifestation, are sufficient to explain what abductees experience.
Next we are going to move on to looking at the Physics and Science of this being the case, and how science does not conflict with the existence of fallen angels, or them having these abilities. Some people think that the most straightforward explanation for these alien abductions is flesh-and-blood extraterrestrials with advanced technology, even perhaps having time-travel capabilities, and perhaps with military involvement. And to some people, the explanation of fallen angels with vast supernatural powers who can cause powerful deceptions seems too spiritual of an answer. But the understanding of Modern science and it's theories actually allows both for the existence of such creatures as fallen angels, and for them to have inherit supernatural powers such as these. The explanation of fallen angels is not any less science-friendly than biological extraterrestrials with advanced technology, and actually in some ways the explanation of fallen angels is more science-friendly, contradicting modern known science far less than the biological ET with advanced technology explanation.
Some people think the miraculous is impossible, and use science as a justification for this claim. The miraculous could be miracles from God, or worked through Holy angels. Or the miraculous can come in the form of false signs, miracles and wonders from fallen angels, such as what they do in causing False Visions, dreams, and physical manifestations.
The goal of the following is to show the miraculous abilities of God, Holy and fallen angels are allowed by science, using modern physics terminology and theories. This is towards being about to explain how they might do such things, from a modern physics perspective.
The main point of doing this is to show that modern science does not preclude the existence of the miraculous. I believe modern science actually completely allows for either God or angels of either kind to work miracles without violating the laws of science, and for the existence of angels and their Biblically described abilities. The science involved is all just theoretical, mainly secular theories, and I do not claim any of it is correct, though much of it is accepted as such by some people.
How the Miraculous Does Not Conflict with Modern Science Theories
All of the categories of angelic Visions would be called supernatural events. There are some words in the Bible to describe the “supernatural” activities of God, Holy angels, and fallen angels.
Greek – signs “semeion” (4592), wonders “teras” (5059), and miracles “dynamis” (1411). These same 3 words are all used in the context of:
1. God – the power of God in signs, wonders, and miracles that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit through the gift of miracles, as seen throughout the Bible
2. Holy Angels – Holy angels. (Acts 2:22, 5:12, 2 Peter 2:11, Heb 2:4)
3. Fallen angels, of the dragon and beast, and the “3 evil spirits like frogs”. (Matt 24:24, 2 Thess 2:9, Rev 13:2, 14, 16:14)
From the Bible it is clear that God in His three persons, Holy angels, and also Fallen angels, are all capable of performing signs, wonders, and miracles. How, in physics terminology, might God work signs, wonders, and miracles?
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what [is] the breadth , and length , and depth , and height
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending , saith the Lord , which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
According to modern science, we live in an observably 4 dimensional universe. The universe is made of space(3) + and time(1) dimensions, which equal the Spacetime we can see. God made all the 3 dimensions of space that we see (length, width, and height), when God “created the heavens and the earth”. (Eph 3:18 also references to the “depth” which compares more the size or extent or full scope of something.) God made the dimension of time “in the beginning”, which marked the creation of time itself, the dimension of time as we know it. God is eternal, and having made time itself, God is outside of time, and was here before time was created. God has complete authority and control over the dimension of time. God also made the three dimensions of space that we can see, and is also outside of them. So, God made it all, and is outside of the entire universe, having created it.
Above I use the term “dimension” as it is referred to in science. To quote Wikipedia,
“In physical terms, dimension refers to the constituent structure of all space (cf. volume) and its position in time (perceived as a scalar dimension along the t-axis), as well as the spatial constitution of objects within —structures that have correlations with both particle and field conceptions, interact according to relative properties of mass, and which are fundamentally mathematical in description. These or other axes may be referenced to uniquely identify a point or structure in its attitude and relationship to other objects and events. Physical theories that incorporate time, such as general relativity, are said to work in 4-dimensional “space-time”, (defined as a Minkowski space). Modern theories tend to be “higher-dimensional” including quantum field and string theories. The state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.” – Dimension, Wikipedia
This use of the term “dimension” should not be confused with the science fiction concept of a “parallel universe”. Again to quote Wikipedia on the term “Dimension”,
“Science fiction texts often mention the concept of dimension, when really referring to parallel universes, alternate universes, or other planes of existence. This usage is derived from the idea that to travel to parallel/alternate universes/planes of existence one must travel in a direction/dimension besides the standard ones. In effect, the other universes/planes are just a small distance away from our own, but the distance is in a fourth (or higher) spatial (or non-spatial) dimension, not the standard ones.”
The “parallel universe” concept in science fiction actually is very different from the use of the term “dimension” in science, as you can see above. In theory, a “parallel universe” would also have 3 spatial dimensions (length, width, height) and a time dimension. That means a “parallel universe” in theory actually has 4 dimensions of its own. Additionally the assumption is that there is a 5 th dimension to our universe which would be used to allow travel to the parallel world, which has its own 4 dimensions.
It would not be accurate to say a “parallel universe” uses the same 4 dimensions that our universe has, because by definition a “universe” is everything that is. So a “parallel universe” would have to have its own construct of dimensions which define its reality and cosmological structure, and not just borrow use of the dimensions inherit in our own universe. This is of course all fictional theories that come from science fiction, which has nothing to do with actual science. And I want to clarify this, as any statement that science has straight theories on “other dimensions” does NOT have anything to do with the science fiction concept of “parallel universes”. If science were to find some evidence of observation of a “5 th dimension” inherent in our universe, this has nothing to do with a “parallel universe”. The term “dimension” is a science term first, and has been misleadingly borrowed by science fiction in such a way that its meaning is construed.
The Bible teaches that “in the beginning” God made the “heavens and the earth” , and that at the end of the 6 th day God “ saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, [it was] very good…Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.” Gen 1:31,2:1.
This means that in making the heavens and the earth, and the host of them, God made everything that He made. There isn't anything else besides what God made, and there is no mention made of any other universe besides the entirety of the universe we know which God made. So there actually are no “parallel universes” and the concept itself contradicts the Bible, as this universe is all God is said to have made, and is well-defined by the Bible. God made the heavens and the earth, and these terms are well-defined, and there is nothing more that God made besides the heavens and the Earth, and the host of them.
We know what the Earth is, but beyond this there are multiple heaven(s) that God made, and the Bible defines each of them for us.
The first heaven is the sky or atmosphere, and is where the rain comes from and where the birds fly. (Gen 1:7-8, Jer 4:25, Rev 19:17, Deut 11:17, 28:12, Jud 5:4, Acts 14:17)
The second heaven is outer-space, where the sun and moon, and all the stars, planets, and galaxies are located. (Jer 8:2, Isa 13:10)
The third heaven is where God dwells, where God's throne is, and this is where the angels are who are in heaven. (1 Kin 8:30, Psa 2:4, 11:4, Isa 66:1, 2 Ch 18:18, Matt 5:16) The third heaven is also called the “highest heaven” or the “heaven of heavens”. It is called the “heaven of heavens” because it is the heaven of the first and second heavens. (1 Kin 8:27, Deut 10:14)
And so the Earth, the atmosphere (first heaven), outer-space (second heaven), and where God's throne and the angels in heaven dwell (third heaven) is all the areas that exist in all of God's creation. None of these are a “parallel universe”, and so the Bible does not describe any “parallel universes” to exist. Rather, the Bible's thorough defining of the entirety of creation actually precludes the existence of anything along the lines of the concept of a “parallel universe”.
All that being said, using the term “dimensions” in a science context, (spatial length, width, height, and time) are there more dimensions that God made, besides the 4 we can perceive, and see with the naked eye? It seems possible that there are more dimensions than we can perceive, because the Bible teaches there is an invisible spiritual realm.
The Earth has 4 dimensions that we can see, but also the Bible teaches that there is an invisible spiritual realm all around us on Earth, and in this spiritual realm, spirits have a presence, like Holy angels, fallen angels, and demons. We know that demons, when they are cast out, travel through desert places, yet we cannot see them. (Matt 12:43, Luke 11:24) We know that an army can exist on this Earth invisibly, right in front of us, while remaining unseen. This happened in the case of Elisha and his friend, And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.” (2 Kin 6:17) When God opened his eyes to the spiritual realm, he saw an army all around them fighting for them. This is the spiritual realm that exists all around us, but is invisible.
The same sort of army, God's army which is the “host of heaven” or the angels of God, is mentioned in Josh 5-6 in the battle of Jericho. “And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?” (Josh 5:14) The “host” of the Lord is His army, which are the angels. While the walls of Jericho seemed to fall miraculously, the Bible does indicate that the army of God's angels was present. It is entirely likely that God's angels had a hand in the actual mechanics of the wall of Jericho coming down. And so we know there is an invisible spiritual realm here on Earth.
In the first heaven, the atmosphere, the Bible also indicates that besides the physical part of the atmosphere, of air and clouds, that the invisible spiritual realm is there also. Angels fly in the atmosphere, which is the first heaven, so the invisible spiritual realm must be there too. (Eze 8:3, John 1:32, Rev 8:13) And Satan is called the “prince of the power of the air” by the Bible, and “air” refers to the atmosphere (Eph 2:2).
The third heaven seems to be entirely made of an invisible spiritual realm, as when we look into the farthest reaches of space, we cannot see God's throne or the angels. As obvious as that is, it shows us that precisely wherever God's throne and the angels of heaven are, they are in an invisible spiritual realm. And this makes sense that the third heaven is a spiritual realm, as the third heaven is where God is, and God is spirit.
In between is the second heaven, which is defined by the Bible as outer-space. The Bible clearly indicates that the second heaven also contains the invisible spiritual realm, and that angels pass through it as they descend to Earth, and ascend back to the third heaven.
“And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I [am] the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed…”
Gen 28:12-13 makes clear that the second heaven, which is outer-space, must also contain the invisible spiritual realm, as we do not see the angels as they ascend and descend through the second heaven. The ladder which Jacob saw indicates God has given the angels a method by which to ascend and descend. That Jacob could see Lord above the ladder indicates that the distance was not very far that the angels had to travel. So the Bible seems to teach that the angels do not actually have to transverse the vast distances of outer-space in order to reach the earth, as is seen in the physical dimensions. Rather, in the invisible spiritual realm, the distance is short enough between heaven and earth, no longer than a ladder you can see the top of. A sort of permanent ladder has been created by God for angels to travel through the 2 nd heaven, going between the 1 st and 3 rd heavens. And so angels can be dispatched to Earth quickly, as the invisible spiritual realm is not limited by the way time is bounded in physics by the physical dimensions. How this actually works is somewhat vague, but we can get the general idea from what the Bible does say. In any case, the invisible spiritual realm also seems to exist throughout the second heaven, which is outer-space.
And so the Earth and all 3 of the heavens have an invisible spiritual realm that seems to pervade through all of them. Here on Earth the spiritual realm is all around us, but invisible. The Bible teaches that God created an invisible side to the universe, “For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.” (Col 1:16)
And it should be noted that the terms here for “rulers, authorities” all refer to fallen angels. This can be seen by comparing this with Eph 6:12, “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].” And so these powers and authorities are the invisible fallen angels.
While they can physically manifest, it seems that fallen angels also have something akin to bodies made of spirit. We are 4 dimensional in our physicality, being made for 4 dimensions. Angels are spirits, and Jesus said after His Resurrection in Luke 24: “Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.” Luke 24:39
This could be taken, that truly angels are not physical life of the 3 physical dimensions we live in, as we are. Rather, angels are spirits of the spiritual realm, and their “bodies” exist in the spiritual realm. It would make sense that their bodies are composed of the substance of this invisible spiritual realm they live in, as human bodies are composed of the stuff of the 3 physical dimensions we live in.
1 Cor 15:40, 44 [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another… It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
The Bible acknowledges that there can be bodies made of spirit, or spiritual bodies. As our human terrestrial bodies are composed of 4-dimensional physical matter, it would make sense that living spirit or heavenly bodies would be composed of the equivalent of the “matter” of the invisible spiritual realm. Angels have such spiritual bodies, and were created with such. It would make sense that there is at least a 5 th dimension, if not more, and that the angels' bodies are composed of the analogy to our “4d matter” which is in that spiritual realm. The spiritual realm might be composed of several dimensions, in the scientific sense of the term, such as a spiritual realm width, length, and height. But even if the spiritual realm is just 1 extra dimension, in the scientific sense of the term, the invisible spiritual realm would still be a 5 th dimension, 1 more dimension that the 4 dimensional physical world which we routinely perceive.
All of this leads to the point that this invisible spiritual realm may be composed of more dimensions, as per the scientific use of the term. The additional dimension(s) of the invisible spiritual realm, would be an extra dimension that is at least one more than the 4 dimensions that we perceive. Thus it would be fair to call angels “extra-dimensional”, meaning of more dimensions than us, esp. if the invisible spiritual realm correlates to extra dimensions, per the science use of the term.
However, God is not simply extra-dimensional. God is eternal, and therefore is what I call “outer-dimensional”. God is outside of dimensionality, being eternal and the Creator of everything that is, including all theoretical dimensions of the heavens and earth, and everything living in them. So to coin a term, God is “outer-dimensional”. This is an important distinction between the God the Creator, and His creation. The Bible says that all three of the heavens and the earth cannot contain God, which makes sense as He made them all; however they do manage to contain everything He created. “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?” 1 Kin 8:27
Now, the Earth is made by God, and it has visible dimensions that science has studied many things in, and the same for the first and second heaven. We also know there is an invisible spiritual realm throughout God's creation. Science has said much on the visible physical realm. But the fact that the spiritual realm is invisible does not mean that science will never have anything to say about it, or that no rules or bounds may operate upon the angels who live there. In fact, it seems that there are rules and bounds, like laws of physics, which are inherit in the spiritual realm as well. Even the battle in Rev 12 between the Holy angels and the fallen angels indicates that there are opposing forces best described as some spiritual realm physics being present. This is implied even in that the Holy angels prevailed, and pushed the fallen angels out of heaven, casting them down to earth. You can't have one angel pushing another without some concept of physics being implied, even in the spiritual realm. As such, there is some chance that the invisible spiritual realm does have physics rules under which it operates, and if so, that where the invisible spiritual realm touches the visible physical realm that we know, science might be able to glean some insight, or give some insight. This possibility is especially interesting in light of more and more of modern physics studying things which are invisible, and theories on what invisible dimensions may exist behind the scenes in the universe.
So if we were to guess that the invisible spiritual realm, and the creatures who are there, do have something to do with an extra dimension or dimensions (in the scientific use of the term), and spirits are therefore extra-dimensional beings, what would modern physics have to say about this?
Modern physics actually does include the topic of extra dimensions, and talk from scientists about extra dimensions has to do with something called “string theory” or “superstring theory”.
Some branches in modern physics are well established through experiments, such as gravity, relativity, quantum mechanics, much of particle physics, electromagnetism, and the weak and strong nuclear forces. String theory is not established, but rather is an attempt to bring all these branches of the tree of physics together, to connect them, to draw and see the trunk that all the branches stem from. String theory is highly theoretical, unproven, likely improvable and unverifiable, highly mathematical, and requires 10-11 dimensions to theoretically be able to describe the trunk of the tree of modern physics.
Here is quote from Lisa Randall PhD, a leading theoretical physicist and expert on particle physics, string theory, and cosmology:
“How many dimensions of space are there? Do we really know? By now, I hope you would agree that it would be overreaching to claim that we know for certain that extra dimensions do not exist. We see three dimensions of space, but there could be more that we haven't yet detected. You know now that extra dimensions can be hidden either because they are curled up and small, or because spacetime is warped and gravity so concentrated in a small region that even an infinite dimension is invisible. Either way, whether dimensions are compact or localized, spacetime would appear to be four-dimensional everywhere, no matter where you are.”
-Lisa Randall PhD, Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions, pg. 437
Lisa Randall is saying, according to modern physics, that there may be very large, even infinitely large, invisible dimensions that do exist, although we can only perceive the 4 dimensions of space-time. A 5 th large dimension such as this could be the invisible spiritual realm taught in the Bible, which contains angels in their spirit bodies of that dimension.
And here is a quote from Stephen Hawking Phd, one of the most famous scientists and theoretical astrophysicists of our time, commenting his thoughts on Randall's work:
“If fact, in order to explain the rate in which stars orbit the center of our galaxy, it seems there must be more mass than is accounted for by matter we observe. This missing mass might arise from some exotic species of particles in our world such as WIMPs (weakly interacting massive particles) or axions (very light elementary particles). But missing mass could also be evidence of the existence of a shadow world with matter in it … Instead of the extra dimensions ending on a shadow brane, another possibility is that they are infinite but highly curved, like a saddle . Lisa Randall and Raman Sundrum showed that this kind of curvature would act rather like a second brane: the gravitational influence of an object on the brane would be confined to a small neighborhood of the brane and not spread out to infinity in the extra dimensions. As in the shadow brane model, the gravitational field would have the right long-distance falloff to explain the planetary orbits and lab measurements of the gravitational force, but gravity would vary more rapidly at short distances. There is however an important difference between this Randall-Sundrum model and the shadow brane model. Bodies that move under the influence of gravity will produce gravitational waves, ripples of curvature that travel through spacetime at the speed of light. Like the electromagnetic waves of light , gravitational waves should carry energy, a prediction that has been confirmed by observations of the binary pulsar PSR1913+16. If we indeed live on a brane in a spacetime with extra dimensions , gravitational waves generated by the motion of bodies on the brane would travel off into the other dimensions. If there were a second shadow brane, gravitational waves would be reflected back and trapped between the two branes. On the other hand, if there was only a single brane and the extra dimensions went on forever, as in the Randall-Sundrum model, gravitational waves could escape altogether and carry away energy from our brane world. This would seem to breach one of the fundamental principles of physics: The Law of Conservation of Energy. The total amount of energy remains the same. However, it appears to be a violation only because our view of what is happening is restricted to the brane. An angel who could see the extra dimensions would know that the energy was the same, just more spread out.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Universe in a Nutshell, pgs. 184-192
While giving credence to Randall's statement, basically Hawking says that very large extra-dimensions are possible, and would not violate the known laws of physics. In fact, their existence might help explain some rather large befuddling questions in science that are still unanswered, such as missing mass. As such, science allows for the existence of an invisible spiritual realm, potentially one in which angels are, and the spirit bodies of angels could be composed of the stuff of this extra dimension, this invisible realm.
The branch of physics called quantum mechanics deals with particles which are subatomic (that is smaller than an atom). Quantum mechanics has been well-established through scientific experimentation. Unlike string theory, quantum mechanics is a field of practical experimentation. It is in quantum physics that we find the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle:
In quantum physics, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that certain pairs of physical properties, like position and momentum, cannot both be known to arbitrary precision. That is, the more precisely one property is known, the less precisely the other can be known. It is impossible to measure simultaneously both position and velocity of a microscopic particle with any degree of accuracy or certainty. This is not a statement about the limitations of a researcher's ability to measure particular quantities of a system, but rather about the nature of the system itself and hence it expresses a property of the universe.
-Wikipedia, Uncertainty Principle
This basically means that on a subatomic level, that of electrons, quarks, photons, etc., there seems to be a fundamental principal of randomness. Particles go where they seem to want to go. Particles almost seem to choose what they are doing. However, these choices do form an overall pattern, of statistically calculable probabilities.
One of the most well-known and respectable scientists in recent history, instrumental in the development of quantum mechanics, was Richard Feynman PhD. He worked on the Manhattan project developing the atomic bomb, was a recipient of the Nobel Prize in Physics, and is also known for demonstrating the O-ring defects resulting in the space shuttle Challenger tragedy.
To quote Richard Feynman PhD on the Uncertainty Principle in quantum mechanics:
One might still like to ask: “How does it work? What is the machinery behind the law?” No one has found any machinery behind the law. No one can “explain” any more than we have just “explained.” No one will give you any deeper representation of the situation. We have no ideas about a more basic mechanism from which these results can be deduced.
We would like to emphasize a very important difference between classical and quantum mechanics. We have been talking about the probability that an electron will arrive in a given circumstance. We have implied that in our experimental arrangement (or even in the best possible one) it would be impossible to predict exactly what would happen. We can only predict the odds! This would mean, if it were true, that physics has given up on the problem of trying to predict exactly what will happen in a definite circumstance. Ja! physics has given up. We do not know how to predict what would happen in a given circumstance, and we believe now that it is impossible—that the only thing that can be predicted is the probability of different events. It must be recognized that this is a retrenchment in our earlier ideal of understanding nature. It may be a backward step but no one has found a way to avoid it.
No one has figured a way out of this puzzle. So at the present time we must limit ourselves to computing probabilities. We say “at the present time,” but we suspect very strongly that it is something that will be with us forever—that it is impossible to beat that puzzle—that this is the way nature really is.
-Richard P. Feynman, PhD, The Feynman Lectures on Physics, Vol. 3, pgs.1-10,1-11
So why is it that at the scale of the tiniest parts of the universe, that there is all this randomness? Why has science given up on precise predictability, and accepted that uncertainty and chance rule the microscopic domain of the most basic and fundamental building blocks of the universe? Why can only probabilities be known?
With the advent of quantum mechanics, we have come to recognize that events cannot be predicted with complete accuracy but that there is always a degree of uncertainty. If one likes, one could ascribe this randomness to the intervention of God , but it would be a very strange kind of intervention: there is no evidence that it is directed toward any purpose. Indeed, if it were, it would by definition not be random. In modern times, we have effectively removed the third possibility above by redefining the goal of science: our aim is to formulate a set of laws that enables us to predict events only up to the limit set by the uncertainty principle.
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Illustrated Brief History of Time, Pg 224
There is always an element of uncertainty or chance, and this affects the behavior of matter on a small scale in a fundamental way. Einstein was almost singlehandedly responsible for general relativity, and he played an important part in the development of quantum mechanics. His feelings about the matter are summed up in the phrase “ God does not play dice.” But all the evidence indicates that God is an inveterate gambler and that He throws the dice on every possible occasion.
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, pg. 70
Regarding quantum physics, Einstein said that “God does not play dice”, and Stephen Hawking says, “God throws the dice on every possible occasion”.
But what does the Bible say on the topic of dice and God?
Prov 16:33 We may throw the dice, but the LORD determines how they fall.
Assuming that whether it is us or the universe that throws the dice, it makes no difference, then what the Bible indicates is that God set up the universe to “play dice” on a quantum level, but at the same time, God is the one that determines how those “quantum dice” fall. By “quantum dice” I am referring to all of the subatomic particles/energies and their activities on the microscopic scale of the quantum level.
However, if the uncertainty principle of quantum physics is correct, then the Bible assures us that God still sets the rules and outcomes for the seeming “randomness” of the “quantum dice”. God is in control of the randomness and the probabilities that we see.
Some Christians who are Scientists speak on this very issue:
John Byl has a PhD in Astronomy, is the author of the book “God and Cosmos: A Christian View of Time, Space, and the Universe”, and is Professor of Mathematics and Head of the Department of Mathematical Sciences at Trinity Western University.
“ WG Pollard and, more recently, Nancey Murphy advocate that the apparently random events at the quantum level are all specific, intentional acts of God. God's action at this level is limited in that
(1) He respects the integrity of the entities with which He co-operates (eg, He doesn't change the electron's mass arbitrarily) and
(2) He restricts His action to produce a world that, for all we can tell, is orderly and law-like.
God is the hidden variable. Murphy asserts that this position is not only theologically preferable to indeterminism, but has the further advantage of consistency with the principle of sufficient reason. Of course, if God is directly responsible for quantum events this entails that these are therefore predictable by God. Hence we are left with a deterministic universe, at least at the quantum level.”
“God's sovereignty rules out the possibility of agents acting independently of Him. In particular, quantum mechanics does not imply ontological indeterminism , given that determinist interpretations of quantum mechanics are possible, that non-physical secondary causes cannot be ruled out and that God is the primary cause for all events.”
-John Byl PhD, “Indeterminacy, Divine action and Human Freedom”
William Pollard PhD, is a Nuclear Physicist and Episcopal Priest, with a PhD in Physics and Honorary doctorates in science, divinity, law, and humane letters. He is the author of “Chance and Providence: God's Action in a World Governed by Scientific Law”. The entire book is on God operating, instead of “chance”, in quantum mechanics.
“In the next chapter I will begin the presentation for your consideration of a quite different approach to this problem which seems to me to offer an entirely adequate solution for it. Under it, as we shall attempt to show, there can emerge again in all of its ancient power the fullness of the Biblical response to the living God who is ever active in the whole of His creation sustaining, providing, judging, and redeeming all things, both in heaven and in earth, in accordance with the mysterious and hidden purposes of His might will. At the same time, however, this is accomplished in such a way that the essential integrity and unity of science, both as it is now and as in principle it may become, is fully preserved.”
“To Einstein's famous question expressing his abhorrence of quantum mechanics, “Does God throw dice?” the Judeo-Christian answer is not, as so many have wrongly supposed, a denial, but a very positive affirmative. For only in a world in which the laws of nature govern events in accordance with the casting of dice can a Biblical view of a world whose history is responsive to God's will prevail.”
-William Pollard PhD, “Chance and Providence: God's Action in a World Governed by Scientific Law”, pg. 35, pg. 97
Nancey Murphy PhD, Theologian, is Professor of Christian Philosophy at the Fuller Theological Seminary. She also serves as an editorial advisor for Theology and Science, Theology Today, and Christianity Today. She is the author of “Divine Action In The Natural Order”.
“The second strategy for giving an account of the locus of divine action explores quantum physics and seeks to give an account of God's action throughout the natural and human world by means of action at the quantum level (either alone or in conjunction with top-down action). My proposal is motivated theologically. If God is immanent in and acting in all creatures, then necessarily God is acting at the quantum level. Emphasis on this fact has the advantage of sidestepping the problem of interventionism: the laws of quantum mechanics are only statistical and therefore not subject to violation. If, as most interpreters conclude, events at this level are genuinely indeterminate, then there need be no competition between divine action and physical causation. It is possible from a theistic perspective to interpret current physics as saying that the natural world is intrinsically incomplete and open to divine action at its most basic level .”
-Nancey Murphy PhD, Dive Action In The Natural Order, pg. 131
In other words, God is in control and constantly interacting with the world at a quantum level. Where scientists see randomness and probabilities, they are seeing God determine how the dice fall, all the time, in quantum mechanics. The Bible may also present an argument of God controlling the “quantum dice” in Col 1:16-17, referring to Jesus Christ,
“For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. ”
The word here for “consist” is “synistemi” (4921) and it means, “to consist of or be composed of, to cohere, put together, hold together or band together”.
According to subatomic physics, it is the quantum force particles of bosons, and gluons that hold together atoms, and particles like photons and electrons that hold together different atoms. As such, this verse in the Bible could be referring to, that it is by God's control over the “quantum dice” that makes these particles we are composed of to hold together. As such, by His actions all things hold together or “by Him all things consist”.
Assuming it is true that God does allow randomness at a quantum level of physics, but also constantly controls the outcome of that randomness, besides “upholding all things”, like the universe, “by the word of His power” (Heb 1:3), is there another possible reason for God creating the universe to be this way? Could it relate to miracles, signs and wonders? This could very well be the case.
Not only does quantum physics allow for existing particles that we can observe in experiment to act in random ways, but it also allows for particles and antiparticles (antimatter) to pop in and out of existence, seemingly randomly. These particles usually only exist for a very short time, and are called “virtual particles”.
“Down at the very tiniest length scale and trillions of times smaller than atoms, is what is known as the Planck scale where the concept of length loses its meaning and quantum uncertainty rules. At this level all known laws of physics break down and even space and time become nebulous concepts. Any and all conceivable distortions of spacetime will be popping in and out of existence in a random and chaotic dance which is going on all the time everywhere in the universe. Terms such as “quantum fluctuations” and the “quantum foam” which are used to describe this chaotic activity certainly do not do it justice.”
-Jim Al-Khalili PhD, Black Holes, Wormholes, and Time Machines, pg. 207
PhD in Theoretical Nuclear Physics, theoretical physicist at the University of Surrey
The existence of these seemingly random particles does not violate the laws of physics, especially the Law of Conservation of Energy:
“Where did all these particles come from? The answer is that relativity and quantum mechanics allow matter to be created out of energy in the form of particle/antiparticle pairs. And where did the energy come from to create this matter? The answer is that it was borrowed from the gravitational energy of the universe. The universe has an enormous debt of negative gravitational energy, which exactly balances the positive energy of the matter.”
-Stephen Hawking, PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg. 97
Virtual particles have been shown, through experiments, to exist, as seen in the Lamb shift and the Casimir Effect.
“These particles are called virtual because, unlike “real” particles, they cannot be observed directly with a particle detector. Their indirect effects can nonetheless be measured, and their existence has been confirmed by a small shift (the “Lamb shift”) they produce in the spectrum of light from excited hydrogen atoms.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg 107
Regarding the Casimir Effect,
“As we saw in Chapter 7, even what we think of as “empty” space is filled with pairs of virtual particles and antiparticles that appear together, move apart, and come back together and annihilate each other. Now, suppose one has two metal plates a short distance apart. The plates will act like mirrors for the virtual photons or particles of light. In fact they will form a cavity between them, a bit like an organ pipe that will resonate only at certain notes. This means that virtual photons can occur in the space between the plates only if their wavelengths (the distance between the crest of one wave and the next) fit a whole number of times into the gap between the plates. If the width of a cavity is a whole number of wavelengths plus a fraction of a wavelength, then after some reflections backward and forward between the plates, the crests of one wave with coincide with the troughs of another and the waves will cancel out.
Because the virtual photons between the plates can have only the resonant wavelengths, there will be slightly fewer of them than in the region outside the plates where virtual photons can have any wavelength. Thus there will be slightly fewer virtual photons hitting the inside surfaces of the plates than the outside surfaces. One would therefore expect a force on the plates, pushing them toward each other . This force has actually been detected and has the predicted value. Thus we have experimental evidence that virtual particles exist and have real effects.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Illustrated Brief History of Time, pgs. 204-206
Virtual particles can include all types of particles, including photons, electrons, gluons, bosons, and quarks. According to physicists, under certain conditions in the universe, virtual particles can exist for longer periods of time and therefore become “real” particles. This particular example relates to conditions of space near a black hole, but in principle this shows that science does generally allow for the possibility of virtual particles popping into existence and becoming real particles.
“We can understand this in the following way: what we think of as “empty” space cannot be completely empty because that would mean that all the fields, such as the gravitational and electromagnetic fields, would have to be exactly zero. However, the value of a field and its rate of change with time are like the position and velocity of a particle: the uncertainty principle implies that the more accurately one knows one of these quantities, the less accurately one can know the other. So in empty space the field cannot be fixed at exactly zero, because then it would have both a precise value (zero) and a precise rate of change (also zero). There must be a certain minimum amount of uncertainty, or quantum fluctuations, in the value of the field. One can think of these fluctuations as pairs of particle of light or gravity that appear together at some time, move apart, and then come together again and annihilate each other. These particles are virtual particles like carry the gravitational force of the sun: unlike real particles, they cannot be observed directly with a particle detector. However, their indirect effects, such as small changes in the electron orbits in atoms, can be measured and agree with the theoretical predictions to a remarkable degree of accuracy. The uncertainty principle also predicts that there will be similar virtual pairs of matter particles, such as electrons or quarks . In this case, however, one member of the pair will be a particle, and the other an antiparticle (the antiparticles of light and gravity are the same as the particles).
Because energy cannot be created out of nothing, one of the partners in a particle/antiparticle pair will have positive energy, and the other partner negative energy. The one with negative energy is condemned to be a short-lived virtual particle because real particles always have positive energy in normal situations. It must therefore seek out its partner and annihilate with it. However, a real particle close to a massive body has less energy than if it were far away, because it would take energy to lift it far away against the gravitational attraction of the body. Normally, the energy of the particle is still positive, but the gravitational field inside a black hole is so strong that even a real particle can have negative energy there. It is therefore possible, if a black hole is present, for the virtual particle with negative energy to fall into the black hole and become a real particle or antiparticle . In this case it no longer has to annihilate with its partner. Its forsaken partner may fall into the black hole as well. Or, having positive energy, it might also escape from the vicinity of the black hole as a real particle or antiparticle . To an observer at a distance, it will appear to have been emitted from the black hole.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Illustrated Brief History of Time, Pgs. 134-137
According to science it is possible that physical quantum particles can randomly pop into existence seemingly out of nowhere. If God is controlling the “quantum dice”, then this means God could cause these subatomic quantum particles to come into existence out of nowhere. This does not contradict the laws of physics in any way. Rather the laws of physics and modern science make clear that subatomic quantum particles popping into existence from out of nowhere is the normal state of the universe, which science has confirmed. And it is entirely possible for this randomness to be controlled by God controlling the “quantum dice”; and the quantum randomness seen has no explanation. Metaphorically speaking, this is a huge hole in the wall of science, which allows for the hand of God to come through into the physical universe, without in any way contradicting science or the known laws of physics. This shows that science actually allows for miracles and the miraculous done by God, without it in any way conflicting with Science or Modern Physics.
Modern Physics teaches that elementary particles, of all kinds, can and do randomly pop in and out of existence. This includes photons, which are particles of light. This also includes gravitons, which are theoretical and theoretically instrumental in gravity, as well as gluons, bosons and other force carrying particles.
Some force carrying particles are what hold quarks together to form neutrons and protons, and other force particles hold together atoms. All of these particles can pop into existence out of nowhere, seemingly randomly, the universe allows for this, and the universe was created by God intentionally to be the way it is.
What are quarks and electrons? They are the particles that are the building blocks of atoms.
Different types of atoms make up all of the elements of matter, as seen in the periodic table of the elements.
Atoms are the building blocks of all the matter we see, and our bodies are made of atoms.
So assuming God, who is omnipotent, one way or another controlled the randomness of the quantum world… then this means that God could choose to have a large number of quarks, gluons, electrons, etc. pop into existence very quickly, and assemble into atoms. God could also do this in such a way that many atoms were formed, and would assemble into much larger objects, even objects large enough that we could see them.
This might include things like oil and grain popping into existence out of nowhere:
1 Kings 17:8-16
And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee. So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink. And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand. And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse : and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die. And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son. For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth. And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days. And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah .
God provided for 3 years oil and grain, though the land was in a drought with famine. This oil and grain appeared seemingly out of thin air. But another way to put it might be that it appeared out of “seemingly random quantum foam”. And there are many miracles, signs, and wonders in the Bible, done by God, which are similar to this, such as Jesus Christ feeding the multitudes of thousands from a couple fish and a few loaves of bread.
Also, there are miraculous healings mentioned many times in the Bible. According to science, our bodies are made up of molecules of atoms, which are made from quarks and electrons and such. Consider the cases of sight being restored to the blind, the healing of the disfigured hand, the healing of lepers, and the healing of all manner of sicknesses; miracles done by Jesus Christ. Control over the “quantum dice” would be one way to explain how sick flesh was instantaneously changed into healthy flesh.
And so this is one way to describe, in modern physics concepts, how God does miracles, signs, and wonders. Though God does do them, whether control of the “quantum dice” of quantum physics is truly and specifically how, or not.
But the Bible also says that Holy angels, and Fallen angels, also work miracles, signs and wonders. (Acts 2:22, 5:12, 2 Peter 2:11, Heb 2:4, Matt 24:24, 2 Thes 2:9, Rev 13:2, 14, 16:14) So it could be an accurate description to say that how fallen angels also do miracles, signs, and wonders is because they too somehow have control over the “quantum dice”, though definitely on a more limited scale than God does.
The Bible teaches that God is everywhere in the universe, and there is nowhere that He is not. Whereas fallen angels have a set, limited, location for their spirit body, and are only in one place at a time, much like mankind. Under this line of reasoning, God has power, and “quantum power” over everywhere in the universe, but fallen angels only have power or “quantum power” in their immediate location. Also, God has power over the fallen angels' spirit bodies themselves, as their bodies are part of the creation, whereas fallen angels have no such power over God.
It does make some analogous sense that all angels would have powers like God, but limited, for the Bible several times in the Old Testament calls angels the “sons of God”. (Gen 6, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Psalm 29:1, 89:6)
It may be that the extra-dimensionality of angels is what would make possible them having limited control over the “quantum dice” in their immediate location.
“Today, however, physicists are following a different trail-the one leading to superstring theory. Unlike previous proposals, it has survived every blistering mathematical challenge ever hurled at it. Not surprisingly, the theory is a radical-some might say crazy-departure from the past, being based on tiny strings vibrating in 10-dimensional space-time… In superstring theory, the subatomic particles we see in nature are nothing more than different resonances of the vibrating superstrings, in the same way that different musical notes emanate from the different modes of vibration of a violin string.”
-Michio Kaku PhD, “Into the Eleventh Dimension”, author of Hyperspace: A Scientific Odyssey through the 10th Dimension, Oxford University Press.
According to String Theory, particles in the 4-dimenional space-time we observe, are the result of vibrations of 1 dimensional strings that exist in an additional 6-7 dimensions, in the scientific sense of the word which (comes to10-11 dimensions total).
As such, speaking generally according to science in principle, it is possible that the extra-dimensionality of angels would allow for their altering of particles in our 4 dimensional world, on the subatomic quantum level. As such, their extra-dimensionality, in the spiritual realm, may be tied directly to their ability to work “miracles, signs, and wonders”, possibly through being able to determine how the “quantum dice” fall (on a limited scale in their immediate locality).
To illustrate, imagine that sitting on a table, is a cup. This cup has 3 spatial dimensions, and as the second pass, it moves through the 4 th dimension of time. Now, in the exact same location as the cup, would be 6-7 invisible dimensions that you can't see. And that is because these invisible 6-7 dimensions intersect the 4 dimensions we know at every point. These 6-7 dimensions are most definitely not somewhere else, but are in the same place we are, but invisible. Now, if these 6-7 extra dimensions correspond to the invisible spiritual realm that the Bible teaches, then an angel who has a spirit body would have an invisible spirit body comprised of the stuff of these 6-7 extra dimensions. And such an invisible angel could choose to effect the 6-7 extra dimensions where the cup is located so as to knock the cup over.
In other words, fallen angels have spirit bodies in the invisible spiritual realm. If the spiritual realm is composed of these extra 6-7 dimensions, then the spirit bodies of the fallen angels are composed of the spiritual realm, these extra 6-7 dimensions. Just as the invisible spiritual realm is all around us, so also could be these 6-7 extra dimensions. According to String Theory (just a theory) what we observe as an effect in our 3 spatial dimensions is caused by what happens in the 6-7 invisible extra dimensions. This means that an extra-dimensional angel could use their extra-dimensional spirit body in the 6-7 extra dimensions, to have the effect of changing things in the physical 3 dimensions we perceive. And in this, fallen angels would also have limited control over how the “quantum dice” fall, but only in a very limited location where they are present. As the invisible realm is all around us (or these extra dimensions would be also) a fallen angel can only effect changes in the immediate locality around them, in the location of their spirit body.
And so this shows how Modern Physics also allows for angels or fallen angels to work miracles (in a limited locality) along the same lines as how Modern Physics allows for God to work miracles. And so angels can also work miracles and do the miraculous, without violating and laws of Modern Physics or science. Rather, Modern Physics and Science totally allows for the existence of angels, their spirit bodies, the invisible spiritual realm, and the miraculous powers of angels as described in the Bible.
When it comes to Holy angels or fallen angels, the Bible describes that they can cause dreams and Visions, as well as causing the physically miraculous or miracles.
In the case of fallen angels, they cause False Visions, which can seem entirely physically real to a victim, and also dreams. Beyond this fallen angels can cause physical injury, and other sorts of physical manifestations, like objects moving, or recording film being altered, etc. These physical manifestations would be considered as false signs, false miracles, and false wonders, Biblically speaking.
I think that fallen angels being able to control (in their immediate locality) how the “quantum dice” fall, would work as a way to explain Physical manfestations very easily, both with visible angels materializing, or seeing the physical effects of invisible angels, including the physical aspects of Visions.
Excepting time perception manipulation, I also think this “quantum dice” idea explains all varieties and aspects of Visions quite well, and also dreams. This is because the human brain also can experience the effects of a fallen angel being able to control the “quantum dice” (in a limited localized way).
“The human brain, however, is also subject to the uncertainty principle. Thus, there is an element of the randomness associated with quantum mechanics in human behavior. But the energies involved in the brain are low, so quantum mechanical uncertainty is only a small effect.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg. 133
Although the effect of quantum mechanical uncertainty in the brain is normally small, if fallen angels can determine how the “quantum dice” fall, then a fallen angel could make the effect quite large and noticeable.
Regarding False Visions, all of our physical senses are dependant on how our brain interprets them. By fallen angels generating electrical impulses in the brain, and such things like that, fallen angels would be able to make us “see” things that are not actually in front of our eyes, and “hear” things that are not there to make any sound, “feel” things that are not touching our bodies, “smell” things not before our noses, and “taste” things that are not on our tongues. These things would seem completely real to all of the bodily senses. And the electrical impulses that are truly transmitting information about reality around us could also be blocked out by fallen angels, under this same ability. Or actual reality could be partially blocked. And either way, false electrical signals in the brain generated by fallen angels, through manipulation of the “quantum dice”, could cause a person to experience a False Vision that seemed entirely physically real, but was not.
A person could be caused to perceive something completely illusionary, by a fallen angel manipulating that person's brain, which is a person's gateway to physical perception. As such, an illusion could seem completely physically real to all of the bodily senses, so much so as to be completely indistinguishable from reality to the person. This manipulation of the senses through manipulation of the brain is very likely what happens in False Vision (or in Holy angelic true Visions). Fallen angels could cause this to happen to more than one person at a time, strengthening the deception. And also under the same limited control over the “quantum dice”, fallen angels could cause physical manifestations, even running concurrently with a Vision which seems real. This sort of deception can be very powerful. Dreams could be explained much in the same way, but the same sort of thing occurring while the person is asleep and dreaming.
Besides all of this, there is one more thing which is miraculous that fallen angels do, which modern science allows for in a specific way. That is time perception manipulation.
Chapter 9: Modern Physics and the Abilities of Fallen Angels
Time Perception Manipulation
Luke 4:5 “And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.”
This case of Satan likely causing Jesus Christ to have a Vision, as mentioned in the Bible, was likely at least hours in less than 1 second.
Let's look at some of the examples of time perception manipulation mentioned earlier:
The case of Robert was about 2 hours in about 1 minute.
The Valdes case was about 5 days in 15 minutes.
The case of Michael was about 20 years in about 7 days.
In a seconds-to-second ratio, this equates to:
Robert: 7200 seconds in 60 seconds,
or a ratio of 120 seconds in 1 second
Valdes: 432,000 seconds in 900 seconds,
ratio of 480 seconds in 1 second
Michael: 630,720,000 seconds in 604,800 seconds,
ratio 1043 seconds in 1 second
What we are going to cover next is the time perception manipulation abilities of fallen angels, as seen in fallen angelic. I will first be covering the ways time perception manipulation can Not be explained under Modern Science, before I get into the way it can be explained, and Modern Physics allows for this.
First off, it is necessary to keep in mind that the memories of these experiences are of real interaction between the abductee, and the vision caused by the fallen angel, in which the abductee can make choices while the experience is ongoing.
I would first like to make the point that remembered False Vision experiences are not memories that are ready-made and downloaded like a file into the abductee's brain. Rather, because the abductee actively participates in decision making during the Vision, the experience is stored as the events take place, over time. In short, what abductees usually experience is very different than what some people refer to as “false memories”. This can be sufficiently supported in that there are cases in which an abductee has experienced a couple hours worth of abduction, called out to Jesus for help, the experience has abruptly stopped, and the abductee has found that only minutes had passed since the experience had begun, not hours. As Satan does not work against Satan, a fallen angel would not download a ready-made memory story that included the abduction experience stopping in the name and authority of Jesus Christ.
So this shows that abductees are able to make decisions during the False Vision experience. It is a real experience, that takes place over the gradual progression of the experience, and it progresses with time passing. It is reported that the flow of time seems normal to abductees during these experiences, along with the experience feeling real to all the bodily senses.
As the brain of the victim of a False Vision is an integral part of how fallen angels carry out these Visions, and the memories of these attacks are stored in the brain, then the time perception manipulation aspect of these attacks must be explainable in a way that is consistent and not conflicting with the physical human brain and how it functions. And so any explanation of time perception manipulation must be limited and confined to explanations that do not conflict with the science of the human brain.
In examining this further, I am going to keep relevant and prevalent in this explanation that it has been shown in False Visions that time perception manipulation is present while the abductee's body does not go anywhere. Dit is belangrijk. I would assert that any solution that would work to explain time perception manipulation in this scenario would also work in all other scenarios, though the opposite would not be true. The simplest answer can be found in explaining the most restrictive scenario in difficulty of a science-friendly explanation.
If we were to assume that time perception manipulation involves a compacting or compressing of extensive experiences into a short period of time, then this would require the human brain to handle in one second, somewhere from a hundred to a thousand times more information than the brain usually processes in one second. The brain processes information by the firing of neurons.
The only information I could find on neurons firing more rapidly than normal were studies on psychoactive drugs, heroin especially. As people attacked by fallen angels that experience time perception manipulation do not report experiencing a severe heroin-like sensation, this serves as experimental evidence that overly-rapid neuronic firing in the normal passage of time will not work to explain this time perception manipulation.
And as such, time perception manipulation does not involve a compacting or compressing of extensive experiences into a short period of time. The only other option is that these experiences actually do take as much time as subjectively perceived by the person having a fallen angelic Vision, though objective time passage for the rest of the world is much shorter.
A major example for this may be seen in the theory of general relativity. According to relativity, no matter what speed a person moves, time is perceived to pass at the same rate. However, less time will comparatively pass for an accelerated person than for a (relatively) stationary person. Yet either person will feel time passing at the same rate. It could be argued from a theological standpoint that God designed the human brain to need a consistent flow of actual time in order to function correctly, and designed a universe in which time passage would remain consistent, no matter to what speed a human might accelerate.
Because the person's brain is involved in the process of a Vision, yet their body does not go anywhere, many theoretical physics concepts dealing with time would not work to explain how the brain can experience more time while the body experiences less time.
Could general relativity, and time dilation explain how this works? Relativistic Time Dilation would not work, because it would require the body to feel acceleration (or its gravitational equivalent) in comparison to the brain, at over 99% the speed of light. This speed would be necessary to produce a 100 or 1000 seconds to 1 second ratio. This is not what is reported by witnesses of the person under attack's body, that see it does not go anywhere, nor the Biblical account that during Visions people do not go anywhere. So this cannot be the case, aside from the fact that such a thing would likely kill the person.
Could time travel gained by travel to the future, and then the past, explain this extra perceived time?
There is a type of theoretical wormhole, called a CTC, which was once theorized to be able to be used in this way, if many detailed criteria were met. But according to the current consensus of scientists, a CTC would not work for time travel to the future or past. This manner specifically would involve moving a brain to another location in 4d space-time, spending a real amount of time in that other location moving into the future, and then the brain traveling back in time to the same moment it left. Even if this could work without killing the person, a CTC wormhole still would not work for returning the brain to the past, as a CTC will not work for time travel to the past or future. A CTC wormhole will not work for time travel to the future and past for a brain, or a person, or even for a bowling ball, as they cannot be used for time travel in general.
Kip Thorne and Stephen Hawking had an ongoing debate for about 20 years over the subject of time travel into the past, using a CTC wormhole for time travel. The debate, based on their books, seems to have become settled, with Thorne (pro-possibility of time travel) coming to agree with Hawking (anti-possibility of time travel). Here are some highlights:
“Perhaps fortunately for our survival (and that of our mothers), it seems that the laws of physics do not allow such time travel. There seems to be a Chronology Protection Agency that makes the world safe for historians by preventing travel into the past. What seems to happen is that the effects of the uncertainty principle would cause there to be a large amount of radiation if one traveled into the past. This radiation would either warp space-time so much that it would not be possible to go back in time, or it would cause space-time to come to an end in a singularity like the big bang and the big crunch. Either way, our past would be safe from evil-minded persons. The Chronology Protection Hypothesis is supported by some recent calculations that I and other people have done. But the best evidence we have that time travel is not possible, and never will be, is that we have not been invaded by hordes of tourists from the future.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes Pg. 154 (1994)
“Translating back the viewpoint of an observer at rest in the wormhole (the observer that Kim and I had relied on), Hawking's conjecture meant that the quantum gravity cutoff occurs 10^-95 second before the wormhole becomes a time machine, not 10^-43 second – and by then, according to our calculations, the vacuum fluctuational beam is strong enough, but just barely so, that it might indeed destroy the wormhole.”
-Kip S. Thorne PhD, Black Holes and Time Warps pg. 520 (1994)
“Hawking suspects that the growing beams of vacuum fluctuations is nature's way of enforcing chronology protection: Whenever one tries to make a time machine, and no matter what kind of device one uses in one's attempt (a wormhole, a spinning cylinder, a “cosmic string”, or whatever), just before one's device becomes a time machine, a beam of vacuum fluctuations will circulate through the device and destroy it. Hawking seems ready to bet heavily on this outcome. I am not willing to take the other side in such a bet. I do enjoy taking bets with Hawking, but only bets that I have a reasonable chance of winning. My strong gut feeling is that I would lose this one. My own calculations with Kim, and unpublished calculations that Eanna Flanagan (a student of mine) has done more recently, suggest to me that Hawking is likely to be right. Every time machine is likely to self-destruct (by means of circulating vacuum fluctuations) at the moment one tries to activate it.”
-Kip S. Thorne PhD, Black Holes and Time Warps pg. 521 (1994)
That was all from 1994, but a more recent quote from 2001 shows the issue has generally been settled:
“… Since the sum-over-histories calculations in these backgrounds are mathematically equivalent, one can conclude that the probability of these backgrounds goes to zero as they approach the warping needed for time loops. In other words, the probability of having sufficient warping for a time machine is zero. This supports what I have called the Chronology Protection Conjecture: that the laws of physics conspire to prevent time travel by macroscopic objects .
Although time loops are allowed by the sum over histories, the probabilities are extremely small. Based on the duality arguments I mentioned earlier, I estimate the probability that Kip Thorne could go back and kill his grandfather as less than one in ten with a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion zeroes after it… As gambling men, Kip and I would bet on odds like that. The trouble is, we can't bet each other because we are now both on the same side .”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Universe in a Nutshell, pgs. 152-153 (2001)
One problem with time travel to the past between 2 locations in 4d space-time, is that, put simply, electromagnetic vacuum fluctuations would build up traveling in a loop from the present to the past (and future), an infinite loop, and this would destroy any pathway from the present to the past (or future). Stephen Hawking and Kip Thorne have said, CTC wormholes won't work for time travel.
As such, this is also not a possibility for time perception manipulation during a fallen angel attack, and it can summarily be concluded that peoples' brains do not go anywhere, or time travel. Time gained by traveling to the future, and then the past, is not allowed by physics in any way that would fit this time perception manipulation scenario seen in a fallen angelic Vision.
Biblically, this can be understood in that God created the universe so as to not allow time travel into the past. God controls both sides of the wormhole, and it is God who would make it so electromagnetic vacuum fluctuations in a loop from the wormhole mouths would destroy the wormhole before it could allow for any possible time travel.
God created time, as did Jesus Christ, as all things were created through Him.
Jesus Christ says in Rev 22:13, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”
As such God has complete authority over time, and simply does not allow time travel to the past, or the future and then the past again.
None of these theories mentioned will work as an explanation for time perception manipulation caused by fallen angels during False Visions. So then what is going on?
The key verse is Luke 4:5, “And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time .”
This verse does not describe time travel to the past. In contrast, this verse describes a long period of time passing during a second, or less than a second. Or another way to say this is that some extra time was perceptually gained by the person, more than the objective passage of time that God controls.This verse describes a long period of time passing during a second, or less than a second. Or another way to say this is that some extra time was perceptually gained by the person, more than the objective passage of time that God controls. So how would a fallen angel do this? How might this work?
The answer is that there is simply more to the dimension of time than we normally think of there being. I believe the Bible sets precedence for this concept, and this is how I would interpret Joshua's Long Day.
Toen sprak Jozua tot den HEERE, ten dage als de HEERE de Amorieten voor de kinderen van Israël, en hij zei in de ogen van Israël, Zon, sta stil te Gibeon, en gij, maan, in de vallei van Ajalon. En de zon stond stil, en de maan bleef staan, totdat de mensen hadden zich gewroken op hun vijanden. Is dit niet geschreven in het boek des Oprechten? Dus de zon stond stil in het midden des hemels, en haastte niet onder te gaan omtrent een volkomen dag. And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.
I have read several theories to explain how this worked, but here is mine:
When God made the dimension of time, He made it to have both its flow in length, as we normally perceive, and draw as a line, but also to have a width to it, at right angles to its length. This width is normally small and tight like a string. But the width of time is like a stretchy material, like a rubber band, and so if God wants to, God can stretch out the width of time. The width of time is not affected by the 3 dimensions of space, or things like gravity or speed. The length of time is what is referred to in “space-time”, but the width of time exists unaffected by the things that would normally affect the length of time. In other words, the width of time works like a 2 nd dimension to time.
In Joshua's Long Day, it was the width of time that God stretched out, around the surface of the earth, and for the people on the earth. As such the people on earth experienced long time passage in the width of time, during what was a brief moment in the length of time.
I believe that according to physics this is possible. Although the concept of time having a 2 nd dimension of “width” seems to be in its infancy, there is some information to be found on it. The concept which parallels the “width” of time in modern theoretical physics is the concept of “imaginary time”:
“…One of these is that it is easier to do the sum if one deals with histories in what is called imaginary time rather than in ordinary, real time. Imaginary time is a difficult concept to grasp, and it is probably the one that has caused the greatest problems for the readers of my book. I have also been criticized fiercely by philosophers for using imaginary time. How can imaginary time have anything to do with the real universe?
I think these philosophers have not learned the lessons of history. It was once considered obvious that the earth was flat and that the sun went around the earth, yet since the time of Copernicus and Galileo, we have had to adjust to the idea that the earth is round and that it goes around the sun. Similarly, it was long obvious that time went for the same rate for every observer, but since Einstein, we have had to accept that time goes for at different rates for different observers. It also seemed obvious that the universe had a unique history, yet since the discovery of quantum mechanics, we have had to consider the universe as having every possible history. I want to suggest that the idea of imaginary time is something that we will also have to come to accept. It is an intellectual leap of the same order as believing that the world is round. I think that imaginary time will come to seem as natural as a round earth does now. There are not many Flat Earthers left in the educated world.”
-Stephen Hawking, Black Holes and Baby Universe, Pg. 81-82
Imaginary time is already a commonplace of science fiction. Maar it is more than science fiction or a mathematical trick. It is something that shapes the universe we live in.
-Stephen Hawking, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg. 83
Though it is a newer concept, it seems that imaginary time shapes the universe we live in. According to physics, what is it like?
“ You can think of ordinary, real time as a horizontal line, going from left to right. Early times are on the left, and late times are on the right. But you can also consider another direction of time, up and down the page. This is the so-called imaginary direction of time, at right angles to real time.
What is the point of introducing the concept of imaginary time? Why doesn't one just stick to the ordinary, real time that we understand? The reason is that, as noted earlier, matter and energy tend to make space-time curve in on itself. In the real time direction, this inevitably leads to singularities, places where space-time comes to an end. At the singularities, the equations of physics cannot be defined; thus one cannot predict what will happen. But the imaginary time direction is at right angles to real time. This means that it behaves in a similar way to the three directions that correspond to moving in space. The curvature of space-time caused by the matter in the universe can then lead to the three space directions and the imaginary time direction meeting up around the back. They would form a closed surface, like the surface of the earth. The space directions and imaginary time would form a space-time that was closed in on itself, without boundaries or edges. It wouldn't have any point that could be called a beginning or end, any more than the surface of the earth has a beginning or end. ”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg 82
“When one tried to unify gravity with quantum mechanics, one had to introduce the idea of “imaginary” time. Imaginary time is indistinguishable from directions in space. If one can go north, one can turn around and head south; equally, if one can go forward in imaginary time, one out to be able to turn round and go backward. This means that there can be no important difference between the forward and backward directions of imaginary time. On the other hand, when one looks at “real” time, there's a very big difference between the forward and backward directions, as we all know.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Illustrated Brief History of Time, Pg 182
Imaginary time does not follow the forward direction of time, but instead forms a closed loop, in which there is no distinguishable forward or backward direction. This concept seems to parallel a stretchy width to time very well. A person experiencing imaginary time could gain time, going around a closed loop on the width of time, and ending up where they started. This would allow time to be gained, and experienced, by the person, without that person moving forward on the length of time, save a moment.
Could the science theory of Imaginary Time, or concept of a Width to Time, explain time perception manipulation in False Visions caused by fallen angels? … Yes.
As I have mentioned before, the Bible calls the angels the “sons of God” in several places, and this may relate to that angels can do many of the same things that God can do, but on a more limited and local basis.
For instance, God can perform miracles, signs and wonders, and Joshua's Long Day was one of these miraculous events. If this analogy holds true in this case, as it has in other cases, then it would make sense that fallen angels may also be able to stretch out the width of time on a limited local basis. The length of time God keeps all authority over, and fallen angels cannot travel it nor stretch it out. But during a Vision the additional time perceived would be from fallen angels stretching out the width of time (not the length of time). Time is received like a substance coming from the width of time, while there is scarcely anything gained in the ever-proceeding length of time.
In fallen angelic Vision experiences, this could be visualized as a fallen angel stretching out the width of time around the brain of the person under attack. The person's brain does Not leave their body, nor move forwards and backwards along the length of time. But the person does experience a gain of time from the period in which the width of time is stretched out around their brain. This allows for a gain of perceived passage of time in a Vision, and would allow for a couple minutes to or even a couple hours to be perceived to pass in a moment, or second.
This scenario would allow the brain to function at its normal speed, with decision making processes working as they normally do in the brain-mind-soul-spirit connection. This would also allow for memories to be stored in the brain according to the normal way the brain functions.
And so this is how I would explain fallen angels accomplish time perception manipulation during Visions. Modern Physics seems to somewhat allow for this, especially angels might be able to do this under the explanation of if they were extra-dimensional in 6-7 extra dimensions, they might be able to access a second dimension of time as well. In any case, this explanation of stretching the width of time around the brain of the person would work to explain time perception manipulation in Visions.
Chapter 10 – Conclusions About Alien Abduction Experiences
I find a good analogy to conceptualize an extra dimension or dimensions is the green code in the Matrix movie. Like the agents in the Matrix movie, fallen angels can alter the “code” (“quantum dice”) to change what is there and alter the green code inside a person's mind, to change what the person perceives, through their brain.
As such I often try to represent the aspects of Fallen angelic False Visions using Matrix imagery. I use a red sphere of code to represent the invisible extra-dimensional or spiritual realm fallen angel (hallway is green, sphere is red).
As an example, this is a close up of a fallen-angel-caused vision of an “alien abduction”. Remember that the entire vision, all 3 aliens, and the setting, are all caused by 1 fallen angel. In this example, the red ball below contains a person standing in a room with 3 aliens, near a table, in a defensive posture against the aliens. That is how the person having this Vision experiences themself to be, and it seems real to them, though a Vision.
What this represents is that because of a fallen angel, the neurons in the person's brain are firing in such as way that their perceptions have been altered. As the person perceives their surroundings through their brain, which is the hub and gateway to all the physical senses, the true green reality has been blocked out either fully or partially, and the person perceives what is going on in the red sphere, which is the fallen angel attacking. Their brain being able to send signals of sensing the green reality around them has been blocked, and instead the deceptive red signals of the fallen angel is what is getting through to their brain. In the most extreme case, this can mean the person may perceive being touched, when they are not, smell things, see things, etc. which seem entirely physically real, but are not. These physical sensations can be of things which are external to the body, like the skin being cut, or internal to the body, such as John's stomach ache in Revelation, or any other sort of internal pain.
Because of the brain-sensory-hacking abilities of fallen angels seen in False Visions, which can seem completely physically real, it can be difficult to be able to tell with certainty that an actual pure physical manifestation of a fallen angel has occurred. Perhaps one example is that of fallen angels manifesting as UFOs (or whatever) in which pictures or video-recording have been taken.
It has to be kept in mind that when fallen angels do physically manifest, it may only be on a very limited and partial basis. One example is the audio-recordings made of ghosts, which if not hoaxes, only show a physical manifestation of the air vibrating so as to produce a recordable sound, or a physical manifestation to alter the recording device directly. That is all that could be proven to have occurred, at most. In fact in many cases, it is possible that a physical manifestation was limited to only a direct altering of the film or recording device, whether pictures of ghosts or UFOs, video film, or audio recordings, while people sometimes experience a False Vision in conjunction with this.
It is analogously similar to the scene in the movie The Matrix where Neo lays down on a table, and his brain is connected to a piece of hardware. He awakes to find himself standing in a white room, with Morpheus, and some chairs. He touches them and asks “Is this real?” and Morpheus comments to him on how what seems to be real is determined by electrical signals in the brain.
All of Neo's senses were working, it seemed real to him, yet it was not, and he wasn't really where he perceived himself to be: he was still on the table, where his brain and senses had been hacked into, blocking out reality, and replacing it with something that felt just as real, but was not. But, he really did have the experience.
This represents what the person perceives during the False Vision:
In this example, the person does not perceive the green reality, but only the red deception of the fallen angel. They may have a dream of being in this room with 3 aliens, or the Vision could seem to completely physically-real-seeming to the abductee, clear and focused as if they were fully awake. To an observer, the abductee might seem to be awake as normal, or in a trance/sleeping state, and the observer who is not under attack does not experience what the abductee is experiencing. It is possible for and observer to also get attacked, and perceive themself to be in the room with the abductee, but then the observer would be represented with the same representation as the abductee above. It is also possible that the abductee could be allowed to perceive the green reality to some extent or another, making the mental attack only partial, and not full, such as a sensation of their actual body (in green reality) getting tapped by an observer. Or as in some cases, the abductee might see a gray, which seems physically real, overlaid on top of the green reality of their actual home, bedroom, car, etc. This would perhaps be better represented by a partially transparent red circle, in which some green is seen through the red.
Also lumped into the aspects of False Visions are events involving time perception manipulation. As in the case of Robert, the explanation is that in the localized area of his brain, something like a second dimension of time, ever present but at right-angles to the normal flow of time, was utilized by the fallen angel, so that he experienced hours in minutes. Again, we know this is possible for fallen angels to utilize time this way to a limited localized extent, on a person, as the Bible records in Luke 4:5 in Satan showing Jesus all the kingdoms of the world in the time it takes to blink. (And that God did this to a worldwide extent as in Joshua 10 as the sun stood still in the sky all day, though it should be noted nothing in the Bible indicates that fallen angels can do this in a worldwide way, nor beyond the localized effect on a person during a False Vision.)
As to Physical Manifestation, the major example I have used here is of the Malmstrom incident, in which UFOs were seen, and physical documented malfunctions, without any other explanation to be had, coincided with the UFOs.
In the case of abductees, partial physical manifestations are documented with bruises and other injuries, etc., however typically the simpler explanation for much of the experience is that the rest of the experience was a False Vision. Most of the experience was a False Vision, which also had minor elements of physical manifestation. For instance, an abductee flown around Mars and back in a UFO, who returns with a bruise, should be assumed to have had a False Vision of going to Mars. This is because a bruise that is ascertained to have been received during the experience is only able to serve as evidence of a partial limited physical manifestation of a fallen angel, only enough to produce a bruise. Along the same lines, cuts or scars, whether external or internal (such as to the sexual organs) would need to be ascertained to have been received during the experience, and could only serve as evidence of a partial limited physical manifestation of a fallen angel, only enough to produce those cuts or scars. A bruise as the only evidence simply cannot prove someone physically went to Mars.
When it come to physical manifestation, it is clear from the Bible that fallen angels can cause illness, as is seen in the case of Job being given boils by Satan, and Herod (accepting worship as a “god”) being smitten with worms by an angel of God, which killed him. In this case of illness, once a fallen angel has caused an illness, it can remain for some time. One such illness that seems to be reported often among female abductees is that of “false pregnancy”, which is a verifiable medical condition. This medical condition also happens to many women who have never reported having any “alien abduction” experiences. The symptoms include extended abdomen, sensations of a baby moving inside, menstrual changes and lack of menses, verifiable hormonal changes, weight gain, tender breasts, morning sickness, cervical changes, and false labor. Research has shown 18% of cases of false pregnancy were at one time diagnosed as a pregnancy by a doctor. This is likely as doctors use hormone blood tests. In the normal population this is estimated to occur 1-6 times per every 22,000 births. False pregnancy happens to many women who are not abductees. As such it is possible either that a fallen angel could supernaturally trigger this illness in a woman's body by a partial physical manifestation targeted to cause this illness, or could simply be playing upon an illness of false pregnancy that would have occurred in that women anyway, due to some natural or unrelated reason for this medical problem. To date there is no verifiable proof of any real “alien” conception taking place, or resulting babies, to be found in abduction research. ( From Wikipedia, False Pregnancy ).
Here is a False Vision combined with some degree of Physical Manifestation:
And what the person perceives during the combination False Vision / physical attack:
The representations above are meant to convey that both a False Vision and a Physical Manifestation attack are taking place at the same time, to some extent or another. The brain is sensory-hacked so that the abductee may perceive themself to be in a new location, and whatever they experience can seem physically real. At the same time, the abductee may incur physical injuries from a level of Physical attack, in partial physical manifestation. While the abductee perceives themself to be aboard a spaceship, and bruised by an alien, the fallen angel manifests physically enough to cause a bruise on the body of the abductee in the corresponding area. In fact, the abductee is in green reality, still located in the same hallway, though having a False Vision of being somewhere else.
An especially deceptive aspect of a False Visions combined with a degree of Physical Manifestation, is when the attack begins with a real-feeling False Vision of the abductee's actual location. For instance, the abductee may actually be in their bedroom, and the Vision begins with the fallen angel having them perceive their bedroom, in a way that seems completely physically real. The real-seeming Vision then includes the abductee being moved from their bedroom to a spaceship, and the travel out of the house to the spaceship, even being floated through a wall or out a window, while the experience continues to be so physically-real-seeming that it is indistinguishable from reality to the abductee. The effect is seamless and flawless, and can convince the abductee that the travel and the location they went to were physically real locations that exist in objective reality. However, without actual objective proof of this, nothing can be confirmed. The simplest explanation is that the abductee had a False Vision which felt completely real, as their brain, through which they perceive their senses, was under attack and being manipulated in it's signals by a fallen angel.
Abductees have reported being taken to underground military bases, a hollow earth, other planets, going there on spaceships with advanced propulsion and anti-gravity systems, underground secret railway systems, and going through portals, wormholes, teleportation, etc. sometimes with corresponding technology seen. Yet, there is no objective evidence that the abductee actually went anywhere by these methods the abductee saw. Even in cases in which the abductee was observed to be missing, it is not ruled out that the witness was also being affected by a fallen angel with a False Vision, so designed that they would not be able to see the abductee, even if the abductee was right in front of them. This is the interpretation I have of the several cases of abduction accounts I referenced prior; the abductee did not go anywhere but was prevented from being seen.
Also, even if there were in fact secret military underground bases in existence, and there was verifiable proof that this was a true fact in actual reality, this does not mean that any abductees have actually been to these places. There is a verifiable planet Mars, but that this place exists does not mean that any abductee has actually been taken to the planet Mars. The government may have top-secret advanced military aircraft, but that does not mean that an abductee has actually ridden on any such aircraft. Without verifiable proof, an equally valid explanation is that the abductee experienced a real-seeming False Vision which was deceptive, and intelligently designed to be deceptive by a fallen angel.
When the abductee sees supernatural occurrences during their experience, things that seems to defy the laws of physics, like passing through a wall, or severe injuries that would kill a person but have healed the next morning, technology that not only is unknown but in fact science has so-far concluded does something which is impossible (like a device that makes a wormhole), these are all indicators of a real-seeming False Vision experience.
Also, if the abductee sees other abductees, or military personnel, or humans that are real people who are living today, these could still just be part of a real-seeming False Vision, and is not conclusive proof that the abductee went anywhere, or saw actual other people. A particular John Doe might be a real person, but that an abductee saw John Doe during their abduction experience does not mean that John Doe was involved with the abductee's experience in any way. Some abductees report seeing “Jesus” during their experience, or seeing a dead spouse, yet in neither case was the actual person involved. Just as easily as a fallen angel can cause a False Vision of several aliens, so also can a fallen angel cause a False Vision of human beings, even ones who really exist. There are some documented cases of one abductee seeing another abductee in an experience, and meeting that very person later in their life. In this case it is entirely possible that the fallen angels simply knew that both people were abductees, as the abductions were being caused by these fallen angels, and incorporated this fact into a False Vision, given to one or both abductees. That the people met later in life (like a UFO Conference) could be a coincidence that was merely hoped for by the fallen angel, or it even could be that the abductee was influenced towards the decision to go to this event by the fallen angel.
Once the enormity of the abilities of deception that a fallen angel has at their disposal by use of these methods, sinks in, it becomes very clear just how little of the information gleaned from abductee reports can be assumed to serve as verifiable proof of what is taking place in objective reality. In abductee cases, usually the only thing that can really be accepted as true is that the person really had an “alien abduction experience”. However, very little information can be gathered from the content of that experience. The abductee really did experience an event, but like one can't trust what a channeled demon says to a contactee to be true, one cannot trust what a fallen angel causes an abductee to experience in a False Vision to be true either. It is true that the abductee experienced something, and something truly traumatic, and can need all the understanding of someone who experienced a real trauma, because they have. (And the Bible always records Visions as actual events that happened to the person who experienced the Vision, even though it is specified that the experience was a Vision. The Bible also confirms these events can be truly traumatic, besides in Job 7, also see Dan 8:27 and 7:28.) Yet at the same time the information that can be gathered from the content of a False Vision experience cannot be trusted, as all of it is a purposely designed deception caused by a fallen angel, working in the dark army of Satan who is the father of lies.
In conclusion, Science and Modern Physics seems to allow for the miraculous and miracles, whether caused by God, Holy angels or fallen angels. For Christians, the Bible does establish the kinds of things that fallen angels can do. Taking the Bible as the authoritative Word of God, on faith, there really is no need to question that fallen angels have these abilities. The Bible says fallen angels have these abilities, both of whatever degree of physical effects, and causing False Visions and dreams. Bible-believing Christians should be able to accept that, whether modern science has caught up to the Truth of the Word of God, or not. But the hope with this piece is that you can understand that Science and the Bible do not conflict, as science actually allows for the miraculous to occur, as is recorded in the Bible and seen in miracles God still works today. And as also is seen in the false signs and wonders that happen today, caused by fallen angels. Theories in Science are always changing, in a progressive accumulation of knowledge: they are not truth. Where the Bible and science seem to contradict, I believe the Bible should always be deferred to as Correct and Truth, no matter what science teaches or scientists say.
I've touched on topics involved with big bang theory, quantum mechanics, black holes, worm holes, extra dimensions, and string theory. But I agree with what Russell Grigg, from CMI-Australia has to say on this:
“It has truly been said that Christians married in their thinking to today's science (eg big bang, ten dimensions, etc.) will be widowed tomorrow.”
-Russell M. Grigg M.Sc. (Hons.), Creationist Chemist and Missionary www.creation.com CMI–Australia
That being said, I'm not entirely convinced about any of these theoretical science theories, and my intent here has not been to convince anyone of them. But rather, the aim of this was to use Modern Physics theories to show that science does not contradict or in any way disallow what that Bible teaches is true. The main point of doing this is to show that science does not preclude the existence of miracles of God and of holy angels, and also the false miraculous done by fallen angels. But rather I believe modern science actually completely allows for miracles, and for fallen angels, and their Biblically described abilities.
It is clear that the Bible says fallen angels can do things as are described in “alien abduction” accounts. There is nothing in modern science that contradicts or disproves what the Bible teaches about fallen angels and their abilities. Rather than prove this seemingly supernatural activity is impossible, science actually completely allows for all of this to be possible…
Modern physics shows that God created the universe to leave room for the miraculous to occur, without violating the laws of physics that He set up and maintains. Regarding “alien abduction” experiences, the explanation of fallen angels causing False Visions actually makes far more sense and violates known science and modern science theories far less than the biological extraterrestrial with advanced technology explanation.
In any case, God is infinitely dimensional, without any question, having created all dimensions and everything in them, and as we know, God, in His three persons, can do anything and is All-powerful.
A fallen angel is more powerful than a human. But Jesus Christ is the Son of God, fully God and fully man, and also infinitely dimensional. So Jesus Christ is more powerful than any fallen angel, and even more powerful than all fallen angels combined. This is just another way of looking at what we already know, that Jesus Christ is seated at the right hand of God, with all power, above every other power, principality, authority, above every angel, Holy or fallen.
Angels can only be in one place at once, as we see in Daniel 10. And angels were created by God, as Genesis says,
“God created the heavens and the earth and all the host of them”.
But Jesus Christ is the fullness of the Godhead in human form, and Jesus Christ said “before Abraham was, I AM” , and John tells us “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” , showing Jesus Christ's infinite dimensionality as the Son of God.
And the Bible tells us in Acts 4:10-12,
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
And we see this in abductions stopping in the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ can and does help those who call out to Him for His help, and who have faith in Him and believe upon the power of His Name.
So Jesus Christ is more powerful than fallen angels, in whatever form they take, one example being aliens, no matter how powerful they seem, Jesus Christ is more powerful.
And we also see this in that many other supernatural harassment and attacks stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. So Jesus Christ is more powerful than fallen angels, in whatever form they take, no matter how powerful they seem, Jesus Christ is more powerful. The Bible confirms this in every way, including symbolically.
Insectoid Aliens are said to look like locusts, but the Bible tells us that the locusts will not harm those with the seal of God on their foreheads.
Rev 9:3-11 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads . And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion , when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions , and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.
Theses locusts are like scorpions, But Jesus tells us:
Luke 10:9 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions , and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Reptilian Aliens also look like serpents, but Jesus gives power to us to tread upon scorpions and serpents!
Also, Gray Aliens look like frogs. Both frogs and “gray aliens” are said to have large eyes, a slit mouth, and no nose, 3-4 long webbed fingers, no external genitalia, and to be hairless, be able to absorb through their skin, and have external reproduction means.
Rev 16:13-14 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
But Jesus tells us:
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True , and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God . And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS .
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.”
Jesus Christ the Lord will destroy the enemy, Jesus Christ will win the battle. In all the forms of that the enemy takes, aliens or whatever else, the Bible tells us that all power over the enemy, to defeat the enemy, is in the hands of the Lord Jesus Christ. The victory belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ.