Ce livre est intitulé «La Bible, Physique, et les capacités de Fallen Angels". Avant de commencer, je tiens à souligner que ce livre est ce que j'appelle «anges déchus» et non pas sur ce que j'appellerais «démons». Je fais une distinction entre les deux, comme je pense qu'il ya une hiérarchie des esprits mauvais, et certains sont plus puissants que d'autres. Nous voyons cela dans les Ecritures:
of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].” Eph 6:12 «Car nous n'avons pas à lutter contre la chair et le sang, mais contre les dominations, contre les Puissances, contre les dominateurs des ténèbres de ce monde, contre les esprits méchants dans des [lieux]».
, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:38-39 Car je suis persuadé que ni mort, ni vie, ni anges ni principautés, ni puissances, ni les choses présentes ni les choses à venir, ni hauteur ni profondeur, ni aucune autre créature ne pourra nous séparer de l'amour de Dieu, qui est en Jésus Christ notre Seigneur.
Êtres mauvais esprit sont régulièrement divisés en types dans la Bible. Certains types de mauvais esprits sont plus puissants que d'autres. Je suis la définition de «démons», comme les esprits les moins puissants du mal qui nécessitent une influence gagner ou de contrôle sur une personne ou un animal afin d'avoir une présence physique. Les mauvais esprits que Jésus et les disciples jetèrent hors de personnes dans le Nouveau Testament sont les seuls esprits appelés "démons" bibliquement.
Qu'en est-il la hiérarchie démoniaque de mauvais esprits?
Je ne pense que les démons peuvent affecter les rêves, et c'est cette sorte de rêve qui peut parfois causer à croire qu'ils ont vécu une "enlèvements extraterrestres" bien qu'il n'y ait aucune preuve matérielle à gauche de l'expérience, comme c'est le cas dans d'autres «étrangers enlèvement »des comptes. Ces rêves, je attribut comme étant causée par les mauvais esprits du niveau démon, ou des anges tombés, parfois aussi.
Les démons aussi causer l'oppression éveillé. Certains contactés et abductés tout en canalisant la pratique éveillés de ce qu'ils appellent des «étrangers». Cela pourrait également être attribuée aux démons. Enfin, les démons, une fois qu'ils ont une influence physique ou de contrôle sur le corps d'une personne, peut provoquer des convulsions, les maladies, les affections, et la folie, comme on le voit dans la Bible. Certaines choses liées à la "enlèvements extraterrestres" phénomène peut être attribuable à des démons de cette façon.
Toutefois, outre ces quelques points, il ya beaucoup d'autres parties du "enlèvements extraterrestres" expérience qui simplement ne correspondent pas au niveau physique ou les pouvoirs des démons. Ils exigeraient une physicalité et plus de puissance, comme les anges déchus ont.
Dan 10:13 Mais le prince du royaume de Perse m'a résisté vingt et un jours: mais voici, Micaël, l'un des principaux chefs, est venu à mon secours, et je suis resté là auprès des rois de Perse.
Et je suis la définition des «anges déchus» comme étant les esprits plus puissants du mal qui peut avoir une présence physique qui ne dépend pas habiter une personne ou un organisme animal. Ce sont plus comparables dans les capacités d'anges, ou à Satan, ayant des capacités comparables, et de la même ou une catégorie similaire ou en tant que lui.
Fallen angels sont de la catégorie visée dans Daniel comme le "prince de thekingdomofPersia". Nous avons lu que Gabriel n'a pas pu surmonter le "Prince of Persia" par lui-même, mais avait besoin d'aide de Michael. Ainsi, dans Daniel, il est clair que certains esprits sont plus puissants que d'autres.
La distinction ayant été fait, ce livre est surtout sur les anges déchus et non sur les démons.
Cependant, je ne veux faire une note. Une fois, j'ai demandé à Joe Jordan, le président de la CE4Research groupe (qui a sans doute travaillé avec plus de cas abducté étrangers que toute autre organisation chrétienne que je peux penser, quelque 500 cas) ce enlevées généralement rapporté à leur groupe de recherche. Il a répondu que la grande majorité, même plus de 90% des personnes enlevées, commencent généralement racontant leurs expériences avec ", j'ai eu ces rêves ..." Et si la recherche indique qu'il existe des raisons de penser que la grande majorité des "enlèvements extraterrestres" expériences ont un plus onirique, et moins physiquement réel apparent, la qualité pour eux. Bien sûr, cela laisse moins de 10% environ, de "Alien Abduction" expériences dans lesquelles les personnes enlevées ont rapporté une qualité physique réel apparente à l'expérience. Toute explication approfondie de la mécanique d '"enlèvement extraterrestre" doit bien sûr couvrir les deux types de "Alien Abduction" expériences. Ce qui suit tente d'être une telle explication, couvrant tous les nombreux aspects de ce qui a été rapporté. Il peut peut-être davantage l'accent dans cette étude d'explication de plus le physique réel semblant d'expériences, ce qui est nécessaire pour une explication approfondie. Mais s'il vous plaît prendre note que l'attention accordée à des expériences avec cette qualité physique réel semblant nullement nie que ce type d'expérience est rapportée par la recherche à l'espèce moins commune de l'expérience.
Les capacités de Fallen Angels que décrit dans la Bible
Chapitre 1 - visions et des rêves
Pour mieux comprendre ce que ces anges déchus peuvent faire, nous allons jeter un oeil à la capacité démontrée par les anges dans la Bible. Ensuite, nous allons comparer les capacités des anges déchus comme décrit dans la Bible pour les comptes modernes enlèvements extraterrestres.
Il serait logique que les capacités des anges déchus seraient les mêmes que les capacités des saints anges, comme Dieu l'origine fait chacun d'eux pour être saints anges, qui ont été capable d'effectuer certaines tâches pour Dieu. Ces tâches comprennent donner des messages, à travers les rêves et les visions, ou de délivrer un message tout en apparaissant comme un homme. Bien qu'ils demeurent habituellement invisibles, les anges de protéger les personnes contre le mal (Ps. 91:11-12). Ils fonctionnent comme l'armée de Dieu (Ap 19:19): ils destroyedSodom (Gn 19), a fait tomber le mur de ofJericho (Josh 5-6), et les gens frapper (1 Ch 21). Dieu a créé les anges pour être en mesure de faire des choses comme celles-ci.
Les anges peuvent ne miraculeuse choses surnaturelles, et les anges malheureusement tombé pouvons encore faire beaucoup de ces mêmes choses, comme ils ont été créés avec ces capacités. Mais ils les utilisent pour le mal et la tromperie. En tant que tel, nous allons regarder des exemples trouvés dans la Bible des deux saints anges et les anges déchus, d'établir ce que dit la Bible sont les capacités des anges en général. Dans ce que nous pouvons avoir une meilleure idée de ce que les anges déchus ne peuvent en général. Et aussi une fondation pour mieux comprendre les activités que les anges déchus sont engagés aujourd'hui, ce qui semble inclure "Alien Abduction" expériences.
Visions causé par des anges
Les anges peuvent provoquer ce que la Bible désigne comme "Visions".
Dan 10: 1-12 Dans la troisième année de Cyrus, roi de Perse, une parole fut révélée à Daniel, dont le nom a été appelé Beltschatsar, et la chose était vraie, mais le temps était long nommés: et il a compris la chose, et a comprendre de la vision. En ces jours, je Daniel était le deuil trois semaines entières. Je ne mangeai aucun mets délicat, il n'entra ni viande ni vin dans ma bouche, ni que je me suis oint du tout, jusqu'à trois semaines fussent accomplies. Et dans le vingt-quatrième jour du premier mois, comme j'étais à côté du grand fleuve, qui est Hiddékel; Puis je levai les yeux, et regarda, et voici un homme vêtu de lin, dont les reins étaient ceints à l'or fin d'Uphaz: Son corps était comme de chrysolithe, son visage brillait comme l'éclair d', ses yeux étaient comme des flammes de feu, ses bras et ses pieds ressemblaient à de l'airain poli, et la voix de ses paroles . comme la voix d'une multitude de moi Daniel vis seul la vision: pour les hommes qui étaient avec moi ne la virent point la vision, mais un grand tremblement tomba sur eux, alors qu'ils ont fui pour se cacher C'est pourquoi je suis restée seule, et. vis cette grande vision, et il ne restait plus la force en moi: pour ma beauté a été transformée en moi dans la corruption, et je perdis toute vigueur.
Pourtant, j'ai entendu la voix de ses paroles: et quand j'ai entendu la voix de ses paroles, alors j'ai été dans un profond sommeil sur mon visage, mon visage vers le sol. Et voici, une main me toucha, ce qui m'a mis sur mes genoux et sur les paumes de mes mains. Et il me dit: Daniel, un homme bien-aimé, comprendre les paroles que je te parler, et se tenir debout: pour toi je suis maintenant envoyé. Et quand il avait parlé de ce mot à moi, je tins debout en tremblant. Puis il me dit: Ne crains point, Daniel, car dès le premier jour que tu as eu à coeur de comprendre, et de t'humilier devant ton Dieu, tes paroles ont été entendues, et je suis venu pour tes paroles.
Que pouvons-nous observer de ce passage? Daniel appelle ce qu'il a vécu une «grande vision» (Daniel 10:8) qui a été causé par un ange. Tout en ayant cette vision:
- Il a été réel pour les sens corporels: Daniel était dans son corps, il vit avec ses yeux, il entendit de ses oreilles, il sentit une main d'un ange toucher son corps, a estimé être sur ses mains et ses genoux et debout tard, et il se sentait trembler corporelles
- La vision de Daniel a vu a été recouverte sur le dessus de la réalité tout le monde pouvait voir, mais d'autres ne pouvaient pas voir la vision. (Dan10: 7)
- Que Daniel a vu était inhabituel, et même impossible en apparence, comme un visage avec le "aspect de l'éclair". Aussi la voix de l'être singulier qu'il voyait ressemblait à une multitude de voix.
- Daniel était éveillé, et ne rêvez pas, ni dans un état de transe.
Corps de Daniel était encore entouré par la réalité objective, le fleuve, le paysage, et les hommes qui fuient quelque chose qu'ils ne pouvaient pas voir, mais ressenti émotionnellement. Les hommes ne pouvaient voir le fleuve et le paysage. Cependant, l'esprit de Daniel était également avoir une vision d'un ange superposé à cette réalité objective, et cette vision qu'il interagi avec sentais complètement vraie à ses sens corporels. Il l'a vu, il l'a entendu, et il s'est senti, et pourtant personne autour de lui pourrait même le voir, mais ils ressenti la peur.
La Bible confirme que les visions provoquées par les anges sont expérimentés par les sens, vu avec les yeux, entendre avec les oreilles, se sentait tactilement dans le corps, il en indiquant clairement à Eze 40 et 44.
Dans les visions de Dieu, il m'a amené dans la terre d'Israël, et il m'a placé sur une montagne très élevée, par laquelle [était] que le cadre d'une ville au sud. Et il m'a apporté là, et voici, [il était] un homme, dont l'apparence [était] comme l'aspect de laiton, avec un cordeau de lin dans sa main, et une canne à mesurer, et il plaça à la porte. [Ange] Et l'homme me dit: Fils d'homme, regarde de tes yeux, et écoute de tes oreilles, et mis ton coeur à tout ce que je te montrerai, car à l'intention que je pourrais montrer [leur] te [art] tu amené ici:. déclarer tous ce que tu vois à la maison d'Israël Eze 40:2-4
Puis il m'amena le chemin de la porte du nord devant la maison, et je regardai, et voici, la gloire de l'Éternel remplissait la maison de l'Éternel, et je tombai sur ma face. Et l'Éternel me dit: Fils d'homme, d'une marque bien, et regarde de tes yeux, et écoute de tes oreilles tout ce que je te le dis concernant toutes les ordonnances de la maison de l'Éternel, et toutes ses lois, mais aussi marquer ainsi l'entrée de la maison, avec tous les va-vient du sanctuaire. Eze 44:3-4
Avant d'aller plus loin, je pense qu'il est important d'être capable de conceptualiser ce qu'est une vision. Que serait une expérience comme celle-ci sera appelé dans le monde d'aujourd'hui? Si un homme d'aujourd'hui ont affirmé avoir vu un ange, qu'il a vu de ses yeux, entendu de ses oreilles, touché, et qui personne d'autre avec lui pouvait voir ... Il ya aujourd'hui beaucoup de gens qui disent qu'il doit avoir eu une «hallucination» . Non seulement cela, mais aussi un "visuel, hallucinations audio et tactiles». Et il ya beaucoup de gens aujourd'hui qui dirait un tel homme doit voir un psychologue ou un psychiatre de l'aide. Ce ne serait plus probable si l'homme a commencé à affirmer qu'il était un prophète, et d'écrire ses expériences, parce qu'il pensait que ces «hallucinations» ont été suffisamment importants pour que Dieu voulait qu'ils enregistrées à partager avec la postérité. Puis, il pourrait vraiment être étiquetés comme «fou» et enfermés. Mais ce serait tout être le cas seulement parce que beaucoup de monde aujourd'hui rejette que Dieu existe, que les anges existent, et rejette que les anges ont des capacités surnaturelles et peut interagir avec l'humanité.
Une hallucination est définie comme:
«Une expérience sensorielle de quelque chose qui n'existe pas en dehors de l'esprit, causée par différents troubles physiques et mentaux, ou par réaction à certaines substances toxiques, et manifestent généralement sous forme visuelle ou auditive des images."
«Une perception sensorielle qui ne résulte pas d'un stimulus extérieur et qui se produit dans l'état de veille. Il peut se produire dans l'un des sens et est classé en conséquence comme auditives, gustatives, olfactives, tactiles ou visuelles. Il est un symptôme d'un comportement psychotique, souvent noté lors de la schizophrénie, ainsi que d'autres troubles mentaux ou organiques et les conditions. "
-Mosby 's Medical Dictionary
Hériter de la définition d'une «hallucination» est la conclusion qu'il est renoncé à «ne résulte pas de stimulus externe» (comme un ange), il "n'existe pas en dehors de l'esprit" objectivement (comme les anges ou le côté spirituel de la réalité se ), et il est "causé par divers troubles physiques et mentaux» et un «symptôme d'un comportement psychotique".
La différence entre une vision et une hallucination est qu'une vision est le résultat de la stimulation extérieure, à savoir les anges, qui sont un stimulus externe qui existent en dehors de l'esprit, et une vision n'est pas causée par un trouble physique ou mental, ni c'est un symptôme de comportements psychotiques.
Mais comme une hallucination, une vision est une expérience sensorielle, comme Daniel est décrit avoir eu. Bien sûr, la distinction entre une «hallucination» et une «vision» est entièrement une question de si on peut démontrer que si l'expérience sensorielle a été causé par un ange ou non causé par un. Il est difficile de prouver qu'une «hallucination» n'a pas été causée par un stimulus externe lorsque ce stimulus externe pourrait être un ange, qui reste invisible et ne déclarent pas leur présence. En fait, on pourrait tout aussi bien supposer que tous les «hallucinations» sont en fait causés par des anges (saint ou tombé) et sont donc Visions, comme on pourrait supposer que toutes les visions ne sont pas causés par un stimulus externe (mais plutôt d'une certaine physique ou troubles mentaux) et sont donc «hallucinations». Quant à ce qui est qui, le facteur décisif est tout une question de convictions spirituelles personnelles, la partialité et l'interprétation très subjective de l'expérience personnelle.
Mais pour les chrétiens, la Bible est pleine d'exemples de visions provoquées par des anges. Et des visions dans la Bible ont un peu de variété à eux, par exemple, certains se éveillé, et certains se produire lorsque dans un état de transe. Un exemple de Vision avait lors d'une transe est dans Actes 10:9-17.
Le lendemain, comme ils continuaient leur chemin, et a attiré près de ceux de la ville, Pierre monta sur le toit pour prier vers la sixième heure: Et il est devenu très faim, et aurait mangé: mais alors ils ont fait prêt, il est tombé en transe, et vit le ciel ouvert, et un navire de certaines descendre sur lui, comme cela avait été une grande nappe unie aux quatre coins, et de laisser sur la terre: où étaient toutes sortes de quadrupèdes de la terre, et sauvage bêtes, des reptiles et les oiseaux de l'air et il y eut une voix lui dit: Lève, Pierre;. tue et mange. Mais Pierre dit: Non, Seigneur, car je n'ai jamais mangé quelque chose qui est commun ou impur. Et la voix parla à lui une seconde fois, ce que Dieu a purifié, cet appel-tu pas commun. Cela a été fait trois fois: et le navire a été reçu à nouveau dans le ciel. Maintenant, alors que Pierre a douté de lui-même ce cette vision qu'il avait eue devrait signifier, voici, les hommes qui ont été envoyés de Corneille avait fait enquête pour la maison de Simon, et se tint devant la porte.
Observations sur ce passage:
- Pierre avait cette «vision» dans une «transe», lorsqu'il est éveillé, et ne dort pas. La «transe» n'est pas décrit comme "rêver". Il semble probable que ceux qui se préparent pour le déjeuner qui étaient avec Pierre vit Pierre dans cet état de transe. Cependant, cet état de transe n'est pas décrit comme "rêver". Pierre était éveillé, et ne dort pas, quoique dans un état de transe.
- Peter observée étant dans son corps - ce qui est implicite par lui d'être en mesure d'éventuellement "augmenter, tue et mange". Peter est aussi de voir avec ses yeux et l'ouïe avec ses oreilles.
- Pierre, comme Daniel, voit des choses inhabituelles, voire impossible-semblant.
Durant cette transe Peter expériences que la Bible appelle une «vision» («horama" Strong 3705). Plus tôt dans Actes 10:03, Corneille reçoit également un "horama« vision spécifié pour être causé par un ange. Plus tard, dans Actes 12, Pierre n'est pas sûr qu'il soit ou non est d'avoir une autre vision, quand un ange est présent: «Pierre le suivit (un ange) hors de la prison, mais il n'avait aucune idée que ce que l'ange faisait était vraiment passe, il pensait qu'il voyait une vision "Actes 10:09 NIV
Ces visions (qui communique un message) sont bibliquement associé comme étant causés par des anges, comme les anges sont des messagers Saint de Dieu; l'aggelos mot grec qui signifie «messager». Beaucoup anges donnent parfois des messages de Dieu en provoquant des rêves ou des visions.
Le mot ci-dessus dans Actes 10 pour 'trance' est "ekstasis" (1611 dans le Strong). La deuxième définition est «un jet de l'esprit de son état normal, l'aliénation de l'esprit, que ce soit comme le fait un fou ou celui d'un homme qui, par une certaine émotion soudaine est transporté comme il était hors de lui-même, de sorte que dans ce rapt condition, bien qu'il est éveillé, son esprit est soutiré de tous les objets environnants et entièrement fixé sur les choses divines qu'il ne voit rien, mais les formes et les images se trouvant dans, et pense qu'il perçoit avec ses yeux de chair et des réalités oreilles lui montré par Dieu ».
Ainsi, même le Strong Concordance définit cette transe comme une expérience dans l'esprit, qui est perçu avec «yeux du corps et les oreilles», ou en d'autres termes est réel pour les sens corporels. Dans le cas de Pierre, il décrit ce qu'il percevait entendre avec ses oreilles, voyant avec les yeux, et parle avec sa bouche. Cela indique lui-même perçu comme étant dans son corps, de vivre quelque chose qui semblait réel à tous les sens corporels. Cependant, il est implicite que ceux autour de Pierre lui perçu comme étant dans un état de transe. Pierre pourrait ne pas avoir su qu'il avait été dans un état de transe, mais peut-être pensé qu'il avait été éveillé, s'il n'y avait pas eu d'autres personnes autour de cette ai vu dans un état de transe.
Un autre exemple d'une vision, qui était probablement aussi facilité par un messager Saint Ange (Se Rev 1, 1:1) qui est arrivé à Paul et avec lui les hommes dans Actes 9 (relatifs à nouveau dans Actes 22).
Et comme il voyageait, il est venu nearDamascus: et soudain, il resplendit autour de lui une lumière venant du ciel: Et il tomba à terre, et j'entendis une voix qui lui disait: Saul, Saul, pourquoi me persécutes-tu? Et il dit: Qui es-tu, Seigneur? Et le Seigneur dit: Je suis Jésus que tu persécutes: il est difficile pour toi de regimber contre les aiguillons. Et il tremble et étonné dit: Seigneur, que veux-tu que je fasse? Et le Seigneur lui dit: Lève-toi, et aller dans la ville, et on te dira ce que tu dois faire. Et les hommes qui accompagnaient demeurèrent stupéfaits; ils entendaient une voix, mais ne voyaient personne. Et Saul se releva de terre, et quand ses yeux fussent ouverts, il ne voyait rien, mais on le prit par la main et le conduisit à Damas.
Et il arriva que, comme j'ai fait mon voyage, et a été s'approchera point de Damas, vers midi, tout à coup il y brilla du ciel une grande tournée lumière autour de moi. Et je suis tombé vers le sol, et j'entendis une voix qui me disait: Saul, Saul, pourquoi me persécutes-tu? Et j'ai répondu, Qui es-tu, Seigneur? Et il me dit: Je suis Jésus de Nazareth, que tu persécutes. Et ceux qui étaient avec moi virent bien la lumière, et ont eu peur, mais ils ne comprirent pas la voix de celui qui parlait pour moi. Et j'ai dit: Que ferai-je faire, Seigneur? Et le Seigneur me dit: Lève-toi, et aller intoDamascus, et là on te dira de toutes les choses qui sont nommés pour toi de le faire. Et quand je ne pouvais pas voir, pour la gloire de cette lumière, conduit par la main de ceux qui étaient avec moi, je suis venu à Damas.
Observations sur ces passages:
- Paul et les hommes ont vu la lumière, bien que personne n'a vu à qui la voix qui parlait appartenait.
- Paul vit la gloire de la lumière, et il était si intense qu'il a été aveuglé par elle, mais les hommes avec lui n'a même pas le voir de la même manière intense qu'il a fait.
- Paul entendu et compris la voix qui parlait
- Les hommes ont entendu la voix qui parlait, mais ne comprennent pas
Dans ce cas, la vision était éveillé. Quel est le plus intéressant est que la vision a été expérimenté dans un sens par Paul, et dans un autre, plus limitée, par les hommes avec lui. Cela implique qu'il est possible pour un groupe de personnes à l'expérience de la même vision. Pourtant, ce cas montre aussi qu'une personne peut voir une autre personne, mais peut voir B, alors même qu'ils sont à la fois avoir une vision partagée. Ainsi, il semble qu'un ange pourrait entraîner plusieurs personnes à avoir une vision à la fois, mais chaque personne peut voir quelque chose de différent, encore qu'il connaît avec leurs sens corporels, mais différemment pour chaque personne.
Rêves causés par des anges
Outre Visions, la Bible enseigne que les anges peuvent également causer des rêves, comme voir un ange dans un rêve, comme dans le cas de Joseph, l'époux de Marie, père de substitution de Jésus-Christ:
Matt 1:20 Mais, alors qu'il méditait sur ces choses, voici, l'ange du Seigneur lui apparut en songe, et dit: Joseph, fils de David, ne crains pas de prendre avec toi Marie, ta femme: car ce qui est conçu en elle est du Saint-Esprit.
Matt 2:13 Et quand ils furent partis, voici, l'ange du Seigneur apparut à Joseph dans un songe, et dit: Lève-toi, et prends le petit enfant et sa mère, et fuis en Egypte, et restes-y jusqu'à ce que je te conduira mot: car Hérode cherchera le petit enfant pour le détruire.
La Bible nous donne aussi un exemple que certaines expériences peuvent être un mélange entre un rêve et une vision, mais arrive quand on dort dans son lit. "Dans un rêve, dans une vision de la nuit, quand le sommeil profond tombe sur les hommes, en endormis sur le lit du Job 33:15 "
Les capacités de Fallen Angels que décrit dans la Bible
Chapitre 2 - Les manifestations physiques, et des interactions physiques Pendant Visions
Interactions physiques avec les anges
Outre rêves et visions, la Bible enseigne que les anges peuvent également interagir avec les gens physiquement, de façon à laisser des effets physiques plus tard.
Actes 12:5-12, 18-19
Pierre donc était gardé dans la prison: mais la prière a été faite sans cesser de l'église à Dieu pour lui. Et quand Hérode aurait le fit sortir, la nuit même Pierre dormait entre deux soldats, lié de deux chaînes:. Et les gardiens devant la porte gardaient la prison Et voici, l'ange du Seigneur survint, et une lumière brilla dans la prison: et il frappa Pierre au côté et le fit lever, en disant: Lève-toi vite. Et ses chaînes tombèrent de ses mains. Et l'ange lui dit: Mets ta ceinture et tes sandales lient. Et il fit ainsi. Et il lui dit: Jette ton vêtement sur toi, et qu'il me suive. Et il sortit, et le suivirent, et ne savait pas que c'était vrai ce qui a été faite par l'ange;. Mais pense qu'il a vu une vision Quand ils étaient passés de la première et la seconde la salle, ils vinrent à la porte de fer qui mène à la ville, ce qui leur ouvre de son propre gré, et ils sortirent, et transmis par le biais d'une rue, et sans délai l'ange le quitta. Et quand Pierre était venu à lui-même, dit-il,
Maintenant, je sais d'une caution, que l'Éternel a envoyé son ange et m'a délivré de la main d'Hérode et de toute l'attente du peuple des Juifs. Et quand il avait examiné la chose, il est venu à la maison de Marie, la mère de Jean, surnommé Marc, où plusieurs étaient assemblés et priaient. .... Maintenant, dès qu'il fut jour, il n'y avait pas mélanger les petits parmi les soldats, ce que Pierre était devenu. Et quand Hérode avait demandé pour lui, et lui trouve pas, il a examiné les gardiens, et il ordonna qu'ils devraient être mis à mort. Et il descendit de la Judée toCaesarea, et il y demeure.
Dans ce cas, un ange est envoyé pour libérer Pierre de la prison d'Hérode. Au début, Peter pense qu'il éprouve une vision, mais se rend vite compte que ces événements ont réellement eu lieu. Peter a eu des visions avant, et sa confusion prouve point que visions sont réelles pour les sens corporels - aussi réel que la réalité objective - ce qui explique pourquoi Pierre ne savait pas si ce qui se passait était une vision ou non.
Mais les événements ont été physiquement réel et bien eu lieu dans la réalité objective.
L'ange matérialisé d'une manière physique et causé des changements durables physique dans la réalité objective. D'autres personnes, comme les gardes, Hérode, et les amis de Pierre, ont tous été touchés par ces changements physiques durables à la réalité objective, dans le sauvetage de Peter ange de prison.
Non seulement cela, mais l'ange a été capable de défier la physique dans la réalité objective, ou semblent avoir des pouvoirs surnaturels, en faisant des choses comme la cause d'une lumière de briller, de chaînes à tomber, ouvrant vraisemblablement ce qui a été une porte verrouillée, et le déplacement d'une porte très lourde avec force apparemment surnaturelle, ainsi que, apparaissant et disparaissant apparemment de nulle part.
Un autre exemple d'anges apparaissant physiquement et en laissant les effets physiques sont Gen 19:
Gen 19:1-7, 10-13, 24-28
Et il y eut deux anges à Sodome sur le soir, et Lot était assis à la porte de Sodome: Lot et de les voir se leva pour y répondre, et il se prosterna la face contre terre, et il dit: Voici, mes seigneurs, à son tour, je vous prie, dans la maison de votre serviteur, et passez-y la nuit, et lavez vos pieds, et vous lèverez de bon matin, et aller sur votre manière. Et ils dirent: Non, mais nous nous conformerons dans la rue toute la nuit. Et il serra fortement sur eux, et ils se sont tournés vers lui, et entrèrent dans sa maison, et il leur fit un festin, et fit cuire des pains sans levain, et ils mangèrent. Mais avant qu'ils arrêtent, les hommes de la ville, même les hommes de Sodome, entourèrent la maison, à la fois jeunes et vieux, tous les gens de toutes parts: Et ils appelèrent Lot, et lui dirent: Où sont les hommes qui sont entrés chez toi cette nuit? Fais-les sortir vers nous, afin que nous les connaissons. Et Lot sortit à la porte vers eux, et ferma la porte derrière lui, et dit: je vous prie, frères, ne pas le mal .... Mais les hommes étendirent la main, firent rentrer Lot dans la maison pour eux, et fermé la porte. Et ils frappèrent les hommes qui étaient à la porte de la maison avec la cécité, à la fois petits et grands: de sorte qu'ils se lasse de trouver la porte. Et les hommes dirent à Lot: Qui as-tu encore ici? fils gendre, et ton, et tes filles, et ce que tu as dans la ville, fais-les sortir de ce lieu: Car nous allons détruire ce lieu, parce que le cri contre ses habitants est grand devant le visage de l'Éternel, et l'Éternel nous a envoyés pour le détruire ... Alors l'Éternel fit pleuvoir sur Sodome et sur Gomorrhe du soufre et du feu de l'Eternel du ciel, et il renversa ces villes et toute la plaine, et tous les habitants des villes, et ce qui a grandi sur le sol. Mais sa femme regarda en arrière de lui, et elle devint une statue de sel. Et Abraham jusqu'à tôt le matin à l'endroit où il se tint devant l'Éternel gat: Et il regardait towardSodom andGomorrah, et sur tout le territoire de la plaine, et regardai, et voici, la fumée du pays a augmenté pendant que la fumée d'un four.
Quelques observations: Tous les hommes de la ville pourrait voir les anges, et pas seulement du Lot. Les anges ont amené tous les hommes qui harcelaient Lot de devenir aveugle. Les anges vraisemblablement transformé la femme de Lot en statue de sel. Les anges ont aussi détruit la ville de Sodome et Gomorrhe, Abraham a été en mesure d'observer la fumée de la destruction de la ville de loin. Aujourd'hui certaines personnes (voir arkdiscovery.com) disent avoir trouvé la ville détruite, et sans doute quelques preuves de cette manifestation angélique reste à ce jour, quelque part.
Dans le cas de Sodome et Gomorrhe que les anges ont été vus par les hommes et ont interagi avec eux. Ces anges sont apparus comme des hommes à la recherche humaine. Toutefois, les anges peuvent également interagir avec la réalité objective sans être vu, et en restant invisible, comme on le voit dans Job.
Job 1:12-19 Et l'Éternel dit à Satan: Voici, tout ce qu'il possède est en ton pouvoir, mais seulement sur lui-même mis pas étends ta main. Et Satan se retira de la présence de l'Éternel. Et il y avait un jour où ses fils et ses filles mangeaient et buvaient du vin dans la maison de leur frère aîné: Et un messager vint vers Job, et dit: Les boeufs labouraient et les ânesses paissaient à côté d'eux: Et les Sabéens tomba sur eux, et les ont emmenés, oui, ils ont tué les serviteurs au fil de l'épée, et je me suis échappé seul pour te le dire. Alors qu'il parlait encore, lorsqu'un autre vint et dit: Le feu de Dieu est tombé du ciel, et il a embrasé les brebis et les serviteurs, et les dévora, et je me suis échappé seul pour te le dire. Alors qu'il parlait encore, lorsqu'un autre vint et dit: Les Chaldéens faite trois bandes, et tomba sur les chameaux et les ont emportés, oui, et ils ont tué les serviteurs au fil de l'épée, et je ne suis échappé seul pour te le dire. Alors qu'il parlait encore, lorsqu'un autre vint et dit: Tes fils et tes filles mangeaient et buvaient du vin dans la maison de leur frère aîné: Et voici, il y eut un grand vent du désert, et frappa les quatre coins de la maison, et elle tomba sur les jeunes hommes, et ils sont morts, et je me suis échappé seul pour te le dire.
Dans ce cas, Dieu efficacement enlevé une «haie de protection» autour d'emploi et a permis tout, mais la vie de Job à être mis «dans les mains de Satan» (Job 1:12). Satan a alors inspiré les gens à tuer des fonctionnaires de Job, a provoqué un incendie du ciel de descendre et de tuer ses moutons et ses serviteurs, et a causé un grand vent de démolir une maison au sommet d'enfants de Job, les tuant tous. Bien que Satan était invisible dans tous ces événements, pourtant les événements survenus Satan a causé dans la réalité objective, et il y avait plusieurs témoins aux effets physiques de ce qui s'était passé.
Un autre effet durable anges peuvent causer est une maladie physique ou une blessure, est vu en actes et en emploi:
Actes 12:21-23 Et sur un Hérode jour fixé, vêtue de vêtements royaux, assis sur son trône, et fait un discours à eux. Et le peuple poussa un cri, disant: C'est la voix d'un dieu, et non d'un homme. Et aussitôt l'ange du Seigneur le frappa, parce qu'il a pas donné gloire à Dieu: et il était rongé par les vers, et il est mort.
Dans ce cas, dans les Actes de l'ange était invisible, du moins à son aspect public de la foule n'est pas enregistrée, et l'ange causé un malaise physique résultant dans la mort au corps d'une personne.
Job 2:6-7 Et l'Eternel dit à Satan: Voici, il est dans ta main, mais sauver sa vie. Alors Satan se retira de la présence de l'Éternel, et il frappa Job d'un ulcère malin, depuis la plante de son pied jusqu'à sa couronne.
Dans Job, Satan ange était invisible, mais dans la réalité objective, il causé un préjudice réel et visible / maladie à corps de Job, et Job était malade depuis quelque temps, jusqu'à ce que Dieu a mis les choses.
Dans le cas des anges déchus, comme Satan tombé chérubins, nous savons aussi qu'ils peuvent apparaître comme des saints anges à la recherche (qui ressemblent à des hommes).
Et cela n'est pas étonnant, car Satan lui-même se transforme en ange de lumière 2 Corinthiens 11:13.
Saints anges sont des messagers de type d'ange, qui ressemblent à des hommes, bien que parfois rayonnant de lumière. Satan, qui est un chérubin (avec 4 faces, 3 des animaux, et quatre ailes) peut se transformer à apparaître comme ressemblant à un messager de Saint-type ange, comme un homme et rayonnant de lumière. Et bien sûr tombé messager de type anges, qui ont déjà l'air d'hommes, peut faire cela d'autant plus facilement.
Observations sur les interactions physiques avec les anges:
1. Il peut y avoir plusieurs témoins d'anges qui semblent ressembler à des hommes
2. Il peut y avoir plusieurs témoins aux effets durables physiques causés par des anges, dont les maladies, les blessures et la mort
3. Il peut y avoir des événements surnaturels qui semblent défier la physique, dans la réalité objective
4. Généralement la réalité suit les lois physiques normales, sauf pour les actions des anges
5. Les effets physiques peuvent aussi être causés par des anges qui, bien que présentes, restent invisibles
6. Fallen angels peuvent apparaître ressemblant saints anges, qui ressemblent à des hommes, parfois brillant
Jusqu'ici nous avons couvert que la Bible enseigne que les anges peuvent interagir avec les gens par les méthodes de visions, rêves, et peut interagir avec les personnes physiquement soit tout en apparaissant comme les hommes, ou tout en restant invisible. La Bible enseigne aussi qu'il ne peut y être limité les interactions physiques au cours d'une vision qui semble combiner ou fusionner avec l'expérience de vision elle-même. Ces interactions physiques limitées peuvent laisser des effets physiques qui restent après la vision est terminé.
Visions causés par les anges peuvent inclure limitée des interactions physiques qui peut laisser des séquelles physiques
Regardons un exemple tiré du livre de l'Apocalypse. L'ensemble du livre de l'Apocalypse contient une vision très longue et détaillée donnée à Jean par un saint ange, même si certains de la terminologie semble un peu différent, à première vue,
Rev 17:03 Et il me transporta en esprit dans le désert: et j'ai vu un sit femme sur une bête écarlate, pleine de noms de blasphème, ayant sept têtes et dix cornes.
Rev 21:10 Et il me transporta en esprit sur une grande et haute montagne, et me montra la grande ville, la sainte Jérusalem, qui descendait du ciel d'auprès de Dieu,
Dans ces exemples, Jean dit que "il me transporta en esprit". , Le «il» qui est référencé ici est un ange du Seigneur, un messager de Jésus-Christ, et cela est établi dans Ap 22:8-9
«Et je vis ces choses, et entendu [eux]. Et quand j'eus entendu et vu, je suis tombé pour adorer devant les pieds de l'ange qui me les montrait ces choses. Puis il me dit, voir [toi de le faire] pas: car je suis ton compagnon, et de tes frères les prophètes et de ceux qui gardent les paroles de ce livre:. Adorer Dieu "
De ces passages, nous savons que toutes les choses John expérimentés dans la Vision ont été causés par un saint ange. Un ange peut «porter quelqu'un en esprit", mais ce terme est synonyme d'une personne ayant une vision causée par un ange. Nous pouvons connaître le terme est synonyme parce que John fait également clair que tout cela a été une vision:
Et ainsi je vis les chevaux dans la vision, et ceux qui les montaient, ayant des cuirasses couleur de feu, d'hyacinthe, et de soufre, et les têtes des chevaux [étaient] comme des têtes de lions; et de leurs bouches il sortait du feu et la fumée et du soufre. Rev 09:17
Au total, l'imagerie entière John enregistrées dans le livre de l'Apocalypse a été causé par un ange du Seigneur montrant John ces choses dans une vision. En outre, les mêmes phrases sont utilisés à Eze 11:24, "Après l'esprit m'enleva, et me transporta dans une vision par l'Esprit de Dieu dans la Chaldée, à eux de la captivité. Ainsi, la vision que j'avais vu passé de moi. "
Et donc si on est «dans l'esprit", alors que la Bible indique que l'un est d'avoir une vision.
Ce que Jean expérimentés était réelle à tous les sens corporels, y compris même le goût, et le sentiment interne dans son estomac, comme John perçu qu'il éprouvait tout cela corporelles. John a mangé un parchemin qui faisait partie de la vision, goûté, et il était "amère à son estomac".
Et j'ai pris le petit livre de la main de l'ange, et il a mangé, et il fut dans ma bouche doux comme du miel: et dès que je l'eus avalé, mes entrailles furent remplies d'amertume Rev 10:10.
Dans cette vision causée par un saint ange, John a été écrit vers le bas ce qu'il a vu et entendu à travers son expérience entière sur un morceau de papier.
Dire, je suis l'Alpha et l'Oméga, le premier et le dernier: et, ce qui tu vois, écris dans un livre, et envoie [il]-le aux sept Églises qui sont en Asie; à Éphèse, à Smyrne, à Pergame, et c'est à Thyatire, à Sardes, et à Philadelphie, et à Laodicée ... Ecrire les choses que tu as vues, et les choses qui sont, et les choses qui doivent arriver après;
Rev 10:4 Et quand les sept tonnerres eurent fait entendre leurs voix, j'allais écrire: et j'ai entendu une voix du ciel qui me disait: Scelle ce qu'ont dit les sept tonnerres, et ne l'écris pas Rev 10:04.
John n'a pas écrit l'expérience de vision après qu'il eut pris fin, mais alors qu'il était en cours. Ce qui est stupéfiant, c'est que ce papier est resté avec lui après l'expérience était terminée. Que John a été donné le papier à écrire et l'instrument d'écriture lors de la vision, ou si John effectué ces choses dans l'expérience et de l'expérience plus tard, est inconnue. Mais dans les deux cas, John prit le papier hors de la vision avec lui, qu'il avait écrite pendant la vision, et donc un plus grand niveau de durée des effets physiques est montré ici que dans la plupart Visions.
Cet exemple démontre que la Bible enseigne un ange peut provoquer une personne à avoir une vision qui laisse mineures effets physiques ou des traces, comme le défilement John a enregistré la vision de suite, ou même corporelles effets, même effets internes corporelle, comme son estomac devient amer. La Bible enseigne aussi que les anges peuvent avoir des interactions physiques avec les personnes qui peuvent inclure les personnes causant des lésions corporelles ou de maladie. Comme Visions peuvent inclure limitée des interactions physiques avec les anges qui laissent des séquelles physiques, il est logique que les visions pourrait inclure séquelles physiques de blessures ou de maladie ainsi.
Les capacités de Fallen Angels que décrit dans la Bible
Chapitre 3 - Visions: Manipulation perception du temps, Realness Extreme et grande variété de contenus possibles
Visions causés par des anges
Peut manipuler la perception d'une personne du Temps
Une vision peut également inclure des éléments d'un ange déchu de manipuler la perception d'une personne de temps. Une autre rencontre angélique dans un passage avec une terminologie similaire à "m'emporte" utilise l'expression «le fit monter". Ceux-ci peuvent être des termes synonymes. Cette expérience causée par un ange (Satan) était probablement aussi une expérience de vision.
Et le diable lui a pris, sur une haute montagne, et lui montra tous les royaumes du monde dans un moment de temps Luc 04:05
(Comparez Et il me transporta en esprit, à une grande et haute montagne, et me montra la grande ville, la sainte Jérusalem, qui descendait du ciel d'auprès de Dieu, Rev 21:10)
Le mot grec ici pour «moment» est «stigme" (4743) qui signifie littéralement un «point» du temps. Ce mot est utilisé une seule fois dans le Nouveau Testament, mais est utilisé dans l'Ancien Testament grec, la Septante, dans Esaïe 29:5. Le mot qui est traduit par «stigme" est "petha` "(6621) en hébreu. Selon Lexique Thayer, «petha» signifie «l'ouverture des yeux», d'où le sens de "un moment de temps". La quantité de temps référencé ici est la quantité de temps qu'il faut pour ouvrir vos yeux. Ce n'est pas plus que le temps qu'il faudrait à clignoter. Il prend un homme d'environ 300 à 400 millisecondes à clignoter, c'est 3/10e de 4/10èmes de 1 seconde.
Comment Jésus pouvait voir "tous les royaumes du monde» dans le temps qu'il faut à clignoter? Ou même dans une seconde entière? Il semblerait que d'être montré tous les royaumes du monde devraient prendre au moins quelques heures, sinon des jours, si une visite approfondie a été faite. Mais des photos instantanés, même dans une succession rapide serait prendre quelques minutes, et ce sans aucun temps de bien réfléchir à ce que l'on voyait. Et donc la quantité de temps nécessaire pour être montré tous les royaumes du monde est encore incroyablement plus de 3/10e de seconde, ou même une seconde entière.
Ce passage implique qu'une seconde passée dans le temps, mais Jésus a vécu subjectivement une période beaucoup plus de temps d'une seconde pendant cette seconde un. Et il est donc possible qu'il puisse y avoir une manipulation perception du temps dans une vision causés (en particulier) par un ange déchu. Il est un autre exemple dans la Bible quelque chose de similaire sur une plus grande échelle, lors de la Journée long de Josué.
Ensuite parla à Josué de l'Éternel, le jour où l'Éternel livra les Amoréens aux enfants d'Israël, et il a dit à la vue d'Israël: Soleil, arrête-toi sur Gabaon, et toi, lune, dans la vallée d'Ajalon. Et le soleil s'arrêta, et la lune suspendit, jusqu'à ce que le peuple se venge de ses ennemis. N'est-ce pas écrit dans le livre du Juste? Alors le soleil s'arrêta au milieu du ciel, et ne se hâta point de descendre environ une journée entière. Et il n'y avait pas un jour comme ça avant lui ou après lui, que l'Eternel écouta la voix d'un homme: car l'Éternel combattait pour Israël Josh 10:12-14.
Ce passage pourrait être interprété comme signifiant que Dieu peut mettre en pause le progrès du temps avant que l'horloge est en pause, mais les gens peuvent encore faire des choses tout le temps en avant-mobile est en pause. Dieu semblait être capable de faire cela pour le monde entier, une grande échelle, comme le soleil s'arrêta dans le ciel. Because the sun stood still in the sky, if time was being manipulated here (not the earth's rotation), then this was a case of forward-moving time being paused, and not a case of time travel. Yet while forward-moving time was paused, in that moment time in substance still seemed present, and in a way that still allowed people to interact and do things.
The angels are called “sons of God” or “gods” at times, and in this it seems they may be able to cause someone to perceive something similar on a very limited scale. The effect is that of a longer period of time being experienced during a much shorter period of time. But the only Biblical example of an angel doing this seems to be the fallen angel Satan doing this to Jesus alone, during what was very likely a Vision that Satan was causing Jesus to have. As a Vision, this was a spiritual experience that only affected the person having the Vision, and not everyone else in physical reality. The only Biblical example of a fallen angel being able to add time like this, is during a Vision the fallen angel is causing someone to have. But there is no indication or Biblical example that angels can do this on a larger scale like God Himself can do.
This makes sense as God made time (Gen 1:1), and is outside of it eternally. Only He is “the alpha and the omega the beginning and the end” (Rev 21:6, 22:13) and only God knows the end from the beginning (showing that angels cannot time travel):
Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else ; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done , saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Isa 46:9-10
Angels and Fallen angels are still only created beings who experience linear time as we do, caught in the flow of time moving forward.
But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days : but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Dan 10:13
Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Rev 12:12
And so while a fallen angel may be able to cause a person to perceive extra time in a Vision, while linear time seems to be paused, there is no indication that fallen angels can do this on a larger scale like God can. He is God who made time, and angels are just created beings who exist caught in the flow of time. And as this could be confusing, I hope that it has been made clear that this does not have anything to do with the science fiction concept of time travel, which in fact the Bible indicates that fallen angels cannot do, and is not possible.
However, the Bible does seem to indicate that a longer time can be condensed into a shorter time, like time itself has a second aspect or dimension to it.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Pet 3:8-9
A thousand of our years can seem a short time to God, who is eternal. A thousand years for us doesn't seem like a long time to Him, but rather a thousand of our years seems to Him like a day would for us. But also, just one of our days, as perceived by Him, would seem to us to stretch on and on like it was taking a thousand years, from our perspective. This may be as in a single one of our days, the Lord is so busy and with so much to do, that it would take us a thousand years to get as much done. It might take us a thousand years to get as much done as He does in a day. This may refer to what it is like, that He hears all of our prayers, and intercedes for all of us,
“Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.” Rom 8:34
All over the world, Jesus Christ intercedes for, and hears the prayers of millions of people, a multi-tasking of an incomprehensible sort. A solution in understanding this may be that a longer period of time can be condensed down into a shorter period. Time itself is a thing that was created by God, and may have been designed in such a way as to allow for this. But again, this is another Biblical example that a longer period of time can seem to be condensed into a shorter period of time. Time perception manipulation caused by the fallen angel Satan followed along these lines in the Vision he seemed to cause Jesus to have in Luke 4:5. And so the only sort of time manipulation that there is any Biblical precedent for is: time perception manipulation of adding time into a paused moment. Fallen angels seem to be able to do this in a limited way, and by the only example of this in the Bible, it seems they only can do this in a Vision they cause a person to experience.
A Vision Caused by an Angel Can Seem So Real As to be Indistinguishable from Reality
Peter couldn't tell if something was real or a Vision, and so in Acts mistook reality for a Vision, because Visions can seem so indistinguishably real.
Peter followed him (an angel) out of the prison, but he had no idea that what the angel was doing was really happening; he thought he was seeing a vision” Acts 10:9
There is a second witness to this by Paul. I believe in this example the Bible speaks on the difficulty of the confusion in telling one from the other, with guidance on how we should handle that difficulty.
It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 2 Corinthians 12:1-4
The word here for “caught up” is “harpazo”, and the same word is used in Acts 8:39 when “the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more” . And so being “caught up” does happen to be a term that can refer to the Holy Spirit moving someone to a new place, bodily. It is used in reference to Jesus' ascension (Rev 12:5) and to believers being caught up into the air to be with the Lord (1 Thes 4:17). And so this word seems to reference more to people being transported by God bodily.
But on the other hand, Paul also makes it very clear that he cannot tell if the man was caught up 'in his body' to the third heaven, or caught up 'out of his body' to the third heaven. To understand what Paul means here by “out of the body”, we have to look to earlier in this same book, in 2 Cor 5:4-9, where Paul says, “We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” In this case Paul references to one whose body is dead, and so their spirit is with the Lord. Paul defines the term “out of the body” to mean one is “in spirit”.
And so in 2 Cor 12 Paul references back to 2 Cor 5, saying he did not know if the man was “out of his body” which is another way to say “in spirit”. Putting this together what Paul says is that he doesn't know if the man was caught up to the third heaven in his body, or in his spirit.
The word “harpazo” and term “caught up” is rather synonymous with “carried away” or “taken up”, and these are terms which are both used of Visions caused by angels. And indeed, in this passage Paul is referencing to “ visions and revelations of the Lord” .
In 2 Cor 5 Paul is saying that he doesn't know if this man was caught up bodily to the third heaven, or if the man was caught up in the spirit to the third heaven in a Vision caused by a Holy angel. Many people think Paul was referring to himself in this passage, though this also may have been a story he heard in detail from whoever experience it. In any case, Paul couldn't figure out if the experience happened bodily, or was a Vision in the spirit. The reason why Paul couldn't figure out which was the case is because a Vision experience seems so real that it can be indistinguishable from reality.
2 Cor 12 is telling us that it can be impossible to tell by the bodily senses if something was a physical bodily experience, or if it just seemed to be and was a Vision in the spirit. However, as much as Paul admits he does not know if this man was caught up to the third heaven in his body or in his spirit, Paul also makes it very clear that God knows. This means only God has the answers, for instance in His Word, and through His Holy Spirit. We cannot tell with our bodily senses alone whether an experience was in the body, or a Vision, but God can tell. While people sometimes can't figure out whether an experience was real or a Vision, God can reveal the truth about an experience to those who ask Him.
If a person is “carried away in the spirit” while having a vision caused by an angel, does this mean that a person's spirit leaves their body?
No. The Bible indicates that a person who is having a Vision, taken in the spirit, actually never leaves their body. Daniel had “visions of his head upon his bed” and in the middle of the vision “was grieved in my spirit in the midst of [my] body, and the visions of my head troubled me.” (Dan 7:1,15) And so we can see that while Daniel had Visions, in his spirit, that this was all in the midst of his own body (no matter where he seemed to be, or what he saw) and that the Visions he experienced were of his head, which is part of his body. Not only that, but all of these Visions Daniel had took place while he never left his bed . Note that part of this vision included Daniel seeing the “Ancient of Days”, likely on His throne, which would be in the third heaven.
Even though a person may seem to be somewhere else, they actually are only “carried in the spirit” in the “midst of their body” . The Visions are of their head, in their spirit, which is in their body. So the Bible indicates their spirit never leaves their body, but they have the Vision experience in their spirit, and their spirit remains inside of their body.
Visions Caused by Angels Can Contain Just About Anything
Visions can include settings or landscapes of just about any place, be about anything, and can include anyone or anything as a character in the Vision, and can include perception of travel.
Daniel had a Vision that occurred where he stood by the River Chaldea. Peter had a Vision while on the housetop where he was, of the housetop, though he was in a trance. So Visions can be of places that are a person's normal surroundings. John had a Vision where he saw heaven, as did Isaiah (Isa 6) and Daniel (Dan 7), and so a Vision could be of Heaven.
Ezekiel saw a Vision of Jerusalem, of the temple, which was a real place. Ezekiel also had a Vision of a valley full of bones, and when the bones came to life into an army, this was not of something taking place in an actual valley somewhere (Eze 37). And so Visions can be of real places or invented places. Even if the valley was a real valley somewhere, what Ezekiel saw was not actually taking place in that valley. Though, what Ezekiel saw in Jerusalem was taking place there. So Visions can be of things that are happening somewhere, or of things that are not actually happening somewhere (but are symbolic, and of truth being taught only in the case of visions from Holy angels).
Ezekiel experienced the perception of travel in a Vision (Eze 8, Eze 40), and Daniel seemed to be near a great sea in his Vision (Dan 7) and so Visions can seem to include travel or being in a different location. But Daniel makes clear he didn't go anywhere during his Visions, but was in his bed while he had them.
Ezekiel saw people in the Vision of the valley of bones. John saw people in his Vision of Revelation, as well as strange looking locust creatures, angels, a dragon, a strange beast with seven heads and the body parts of various animals. The characters in a Vision could be in the forms of people, real or not, angels, animals that exist, and strange creatures that don't exist. But like an artist can draw a cartoon of about anything, or any place, so can an angel cause a Vision to contain just about any landscape or characters.
What is seen in a Vision can vary wildly and be of just about anything. During a Vision a person may see angels, people, entities, living creatures, landscapes of strange places, or of familiar ones, as well as perceiving they experience travel to various places. Yet all of this is just part of the Vision caused by the angel, and the Bible teaches, like Daniel, that people don't actually go anywhere, regardless of what they perceive during a Vision.
The Abilities of Fallen Angels as Described in the Bible
Chapter 4 – Summary of Visions, and False Visions Caused by Fallen Angels
The Bible summarily teaches several things about Visions caused by angels:
1. A Vision can seem totally real to a single bodily sense (like sight) or to all of the bodily senses, and a person's self-perception is usually that they are in their body.
2. A Vision can affect one person or multiple people, though they may perceive it differently
3. A Vision can occur in a waking state, or in a trance state
4. A Vision can be causes by a visible angel, or an invisible angel
5. A Vision can involve some physical effects that remain afterwards, such as objects that remain with a person, and bodily effects, even internal ones.
6. A Vision can involve manipulation of a person's perception of time, like an hour in a minute.
7. A Vision can contain just about any landscape, or any sort of characters, and can seem to involve travel, even though the person doesn't actually go anywhere
8. A Vision can seem so real to the bodily senses that it is indistinguishable from reality, even in the case of people who are experienced with Visions, though God knows and can reveal the truth
This level of power in the hands of fallen angels is staggering to conceptualize. I thank God that they are limited in what they can do, and who they can do it to, by God's laws of spiritual authority grounds. A fallen angel can only attack someone if they have spiritual authority grounds and rights to do so. God places a “hedge of protection” around people, limiting whom the fallen angels can harass and harm, and limiting the level of harassment and the extent of the harm that they can do to a person. (See Job 1 and 2, also the New Testament is full of this concept. This also involves the concept of spiritual warfare, see Resources at end for further information.) It is also a relief to know that for every fallen angel, there are 2 Holy angels working for God and Jesus; and so the fallen angels are outnumbered two to one. Additionally Jesus Christ assures believers in Him: Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19
False Dreams and False Visions caused by Fallen Angels
We have covered Visions that were had by people who were prophets, or those with the gift of the Holy Spirit of prophecy, such as Daniel, John, Ezekiel, Peter and Paul. Even in the case of Joseph having a dream of an angel, telling him to flee to Egypt, this also was a prophetic warning given by a Holy angel. When Holy angels cause people to have a dream or a Vision they are delivering a message, but often these messages are classified by the Bible as “prophecy” and those who have them as “prophets”.
In the Bible, prophecy is heavily associated with a person having dreams or Visions. And as we have established, dreams and Visions can be caused by Holy angels, who are God's messengers.
“And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy , and your young men shall see visions , and your old men shall dream dreams ” Acts 2:17
“And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, [I] the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision , [and] will speak unto him in a dream .” Num 12:6
And so a person who has a dream or a Vision caused by a Holy angel is classified by the Bible as a prophet. And while an angel delivers a message to the prophet, the prophet in turn delivers the message on to other people. The Strong's definition of prophet is a “spokesman, speaker”, and to prophesy is to “a) be under the influence of a divine spirit” or to be “b) a false prophet”.
The Bible also mentions false prophets. True prophets have true Visions that are caused by Holy angels sent by God. But the Bible teaches that false prophets have False Visions and Vain Visions.
“Have ye not seen a vain vision , and have ye not spoken a lying divination , whereas ye say, The LORD saith [it]; albeit I have not spoken? Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I [am] against you, saith the Lord GOD. And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity , and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.” Eze 13:7-9
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination , and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:14
False prophets have False Visions, and these are caused by Fallen angels who lie and deceive.
And he saith, `Therefore, hear a word of the Lord; I have seen the Lord sitting on His throne, and all the host of the heavens [angels] standing by Him, on His right and on His left; and the Lord saith, Who doth entice Ahab, and he doth go up and fall in Ramoth-Gilead? and this one saith thus, and that one is saying thus. `And a spirit came out, and stood before the Lord, and saith, I — I do entice him; and the Lord saith unto him, By what? and he saith, I go out, and have been a spirit of falsehood in the mouth of all his prophets ; and He saith, Thou dost entice, and also thou art able; go out and do so. 1 Kin 22:19-22
In this passage the angels were around God's throne, and an angel admits to having been communicating deception or lies to the false prophets. God permissively allows this deceptive angel to continue to do what the falling angel himself is able to do, and chooses to do. And so the Bible teaches that fallen angels do communicate lies and deception to false prophets. And this is by the method of false dreams and False Visions, which false prophets are reported to have.
Beyond false messages which fallen angels can communicate in False Visions or dreams, they can also use False Visions and dreams to simply harass and frighten people, to a terrible extent. While Job was under a series of attacks caused by Satan, a fallen angel, Job records:
When I say, My bed shall comfort me, my couch shall ease my complaint; Then you scare me with dreams and terrify me with visions so that I would choose strangling and death rather than my bones. Job 7:13-15
And so the Bible teaches that fallen angels can victimize people with their ability to cause dreams and Visions, using these to scare and terrify, even to the point of severe traumatization from them. Job here experiences severe depression, longing to die rather than deal with these terrifying dreams and Visions. It seems various other psychological symptoms besides severe depression could result from these experiences as well, as Job's account here shows they can be very traumatic, and different people handle trauma in different ways.
Along with this, fallen angels can also cause False Dreams and False Visions to communicate a lying or deceptive message, false information, to a person with the intent that the person might become a false prophet, who shares the false message as truth.
This is part of why the Bible warns that people must test spirits, not just believe them, as these fallen angels are at war against all of humanity, to deceive us:
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (1 Jn 4:1) and as Jesus said, ″Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.” (Matt 24:11)
But even in the midst of this war followers of Jesus Christ can have God's reassurance,
Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels, nor principalities nor powers [fallen angels], nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:37-39
Chapter 5 - Alien Abduction Experiences
False Visions and Terrifying Dreams
Next we will compare modern alien abduction accounts to the Biblically based abilities of Fallen angels. The Bible teaches that Fallen angels can cause False dreams and False Visions.
In False Visions causes by Fallen angels:
1. A Vision can seem totally real to a single bodily sense (like sight) or to all of the bodily senses, and a person's self-perception is usually that they are in their body.
2. A Vision can affect one person or multiple people, though they may perceive it differently
3. A Vision can occur in a waking state, or in a trance state
4. A Vision can be causes by a visible angel, or an invisible angel
5. A Vision can involve some physical effects that remain afterwards, such as objects that remain with a person, and bodily effects, even internal ones.
6. A Vision can involve manipulation of a person's perception of time, like an hour in a minute.
7. A Vision can contain just about any landscape, or any sort of characters, and can seem to involve travel, even though the person doesn't actually go anywhere
8. A Vision can seem so real to the bodily senses that it is indistinguishable from reality, even in the case of people who are experienced with Visions, though God knows and can reveal the truth
What is experienced in “alien abduction” accounts?
Abductees report in their experiences that in some cases the experience feels completely real to the bodily senses, sight, hearing, touch, taste, smell, and time perception. Abductees can be adamant that some of these experiences were NOT dreams, but occurred in a waking state. Here are some common events in abductee accounts:
Seeing aliens of a wide variety of types
Walking through walls (themselves or seeing aliens do so)
Defying gravity (flying or floating themselves, or seeing aliens/spacecraft do so)
Travel to outer-space, other planets, and other galaxies, with no suit or spacecraft, and Travel to outerspace in spacecraft
Impossible scenarios, like breathing underwater or in viscous liquid, without drowning
Not breathing for a half hour or more in air, without suffocating or dying
Electromagnetic disturbances, electronic malfunctions
Alicein wonderland sorts of landscapes
Aliens' bodies shape-shifting into new forms
Injuries that only last until the end of the experience
Injuries that remain after the experience, sometimes mostly healed and leaving scars
Strange or rare illnesses
Medical-like examinations and procedures including needles and drills
Time perception disturbances and manipulation, time loss, time gain
Sexual molestation, assault and rape
Miscarriages and false pregnancies with supernatural aspects
Physical pain and torture
Partial or complete paralysis during experience
As you can see, these experiences are often highly confusing, painful, and violating.
Now let's look at some individual alien abductee accounts.
The case of “Robert” summarized from CE4 Research Group's case files:
On a Monday, Joe and Robert had a conversation. Robert said he had been having abduction experiences with colorful light beings for a year. Each being was a different color, and looked much like the light-people in the movie Cocoon. He described that it felt real to his bodily senses, and he seemed in his body, however he did not need to breathe during his experiences.
Later that week, on Thursday, Robert was in a car with his girlfriend. Robert slumped over like he passed out unconscious while in the car, and his girlfriend was with him. Robert experienced a long period of conscious time during what he later recounted as being like a vision with the beings. He felt he seemed to have gone somewhere else. However, to Robert's girlfriend, he was in a trance state that only lasted a minute or so. But he experienced several hours' worth of experiences, during the minute he was passed out. As his girlfriend was there with him, she saw he did not go anywhere, his body did not leave. Just in that week, since first talking to Joe, the experiences had turned very bad, and the light-beings were being very nasty to him, and Robert wanted the experiences to stop. Robert could somehow feel that an experience was about to happen, before it happened, precipitating the entities attacks on him. Telling his girlfriend beforehand, Robert had a second experience the same evening.
-Joe Jordan, CE4Research, Unholy Communion: The Unwanted Piece of the UFO Puzzle www.ce4research.com
Robert said he had been having abduction experiences with colorful light beings much like the light-people in the movie Cocoon. He described that it felt real to his bodily senses, and that he seemed to be in his body; however he did not need to breathe during his experiences.
Robert had 2 experiences while seeming to pass out in a trance, which seemed to last hours for him, but his girlfriend said he was only in this state for a few minutes.
Afterwards, Robert called Joe, telling him what had been happening to him that day. While on the phone, Robert could feel another attack coming on. This was the third experience that day, and he was again in a trance state, for a couple of minutes. His girlfriend, present, saw this, and talked to Joe on the phone while this was ongoing. When Robert's experience ended, he got back on the phone and related to Joe that the beings who were attacking Robert told Robert that they “hated Joe” because he understood what was happening to Robert.
The next morning Joe and a Christian co-worker went to Robert's house and met with him and his girlfriend. While there, Robert felt another attack coming on, but before he was forced into a trance again, they rebuked the entities in the name and authority of Jesus Christ, and Robert said he could feel the entities disappear, stopping the attack.
-Joe Jordan, CE4Research, Unholy Communion: The Unwanted Piece of the UFO Puzzle www.ce4research.com
As I mentioned earlier, time manipulation seems to occur in the Bible during False Visions caused by fallen angels. In this case, the experience could have been a False Vision, and matches the Biblical description very well. Robert experienced time manipulation, and the experiences were real to his bodily senses, and at the same time during his experiences he did not breathe for impossibly long periods of time (that is, his subjective time).
The case of Robert was of a False Vision which was real to the bodily senses, it fully overlaid objective reality, happened in a waking trance state, to one person. But there was a witness with Robert that saw him go into a trance state, and remained with him throughout. This shows, as is recorded in Daniel, that he did not go anywhere, but rather had these False Visions in his spirit, in his body, while remaining where he was.
This next case from an “alien abductee” is from “Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda” by the late Dr. Karla Turner PhD.
“Lisa had some conscious memories of encounters with the typical Grays, as well as missing-time episodes, multiple-witnessed UFO sightings, unexplained body marks, telepathic communications from unseen sources, and many dream-memories of ambiguous reality – except in those instances where other evidence pointed to an actual event. While the details of Lisa's life-long involvement are certainly very typical, the alien intrusions are clearly more intense and frequent than in many such cases…
In 1980, however, Lisa did see something very different from the shadows, in a terrifying event. “A being appeared to me,” she recalled, “when I was a couple of weeks pregnant. We had just got into bed and Neal already seemed 'out of it,' and the being appeared on the end of the bed, squatting, telling me mentally the child I was carrying was special and it would be a boy. I almost had a fainting spell. I threw the covers over my head as the being was leaping toward me, I believe, and said, 'In Jesus' name, take it away!' It disappeared, and I fell quickly asleep. It was about three feet tall, dark-skinned, leathery looking. I don't remember anything else.”
-Karla Turner PhD, Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda, Pg. 36-37
I would also say this case was a False Vision, partially overlaying objective reality, in a waking state, and happening to one person. When rebuked in Jesus' name the False Vision ended, and what she was seeing disappeared.
Transcribed from the Cursed Net internet radio show, the next case describes multiple witnesses seeing a UFO over a populated area.
“ Byron : That beings me to the question of when did you first see a UFO? And how did it affect you?
Kathy : The first UFO I saw I was probably in my very early 20s, there were three other people with me and we all saw it, only one of them remembers seeing it, and none of us remember what we did the rest of the day…
Byron : How could you forget such a strange instance, and its also puzzling to me how you could not remember what you did for the rest of the day, after an event like that, could that indicate this expression called “missing time”, may have taken place right at that time?
Kathy : That's what I'm taking for granted now… I mean we had a long drive home, a couple of hours from where we were at the time, and none of us remember, we don't even remember that weekend, I mean the next few days we all went, “What did we do Saturday? I don't remember.” You know, but it gets fuzzier and fuzzier as the years go on…
Byron : What did it look like?
Kathy : It was huge, we were on a street with houses on both sides that backed up to a beach, and we were walking to our vehicles, and it came over us, and the reason I think we looked up is because it got dark, it was like the sun went away, and you could see the bottom of a … the starship enterprise, it was like mechanical looking stuff on the bottom, but you couldn't see the beginning or the end of it, you could see it went past the houses on that side of the street, it went past the houses on [the other] that side of the street, as far as you could see in both directions, up and down, its like we were seeing just a teeny piece of the bottom of a huge spaceship… And there was virtually no sound either, that's something one of the other people who was with me said about it, because I remember us saying that “It's not making any sound at all” while we were looking up.”
-Byron LeBeau, Richard Stout and Greg Messina, www.thecursednet.com , www.blogtalkradio.com/cursednet
with guest Kathy Land (1/5/09)
Happening in a populated area, in which a huge sun-blocking UFO would be arguably noticed by the residents, local police, and local news, this event seems more likely to be a False Vision than any sort of Physical Manifestation. This was a False Vision shared by a group of people, who were all under a deceptive attack with False Visions at the same time. This waking False Vision seemed to only partially overlay objective reality, in that the UFO was seen but not heard to make any sound at all, while hovering over the neighborhood. But there were multiple victims which saw the vision, and missing time was noted by all involved. Missing time is can be described as a type of time perception manipulation. All of this matches what the Bible teaches is possible with False Visions caused by Fallen angels.
Once an abductee, Kathy is now a former abductee, and a Christian, whose experiences have been terminated from happening in her life, by the name and authority of Jesus Christ.
The next case is of Maureen:
“Arriving at the nominated spot, all 3 people then sat in Maureen's car. She saw the same “man” had appeared just outside the vehicle. Neither of the other 2, Judith Magee or Paul Norman, could see anything unusual present. Maureen says that the “man” was beckoning her to join him outside the vehicle. She refused to get out of the car.
Suddenly, according to the others present, Maureen “fainted”. She began a verbal description to them whilst she was in this apparent state of unconsciousness. She related she was in a round room somewhere, which was lit, but there was no visible source of illumination. This scene was indistinguishable from the consensus reality that we call “real life”.
The “man” just appeared in the room, in which there was also a mushroom shaped object rising up from the floor. This was stemmed, with a broad domed top. There appeared to be an inner hemisphere, wobbling around, and it was covered with what looked to be hieroglyphics on it. The “man” told her to describe what she could see, and this she did, to be heard by the 2 in the car. She could see no doors, or windows in this room, and so began to be scared. She started to cry, then woke, still in the car, with tears in her eyes, saying she could not remember anything that had just occurred. The 2 in the car filled her in on what had transpired.”
-Keith Basterfield, “Maureen Puddy: An Australian Abductee Physically Present During An Abduction”, 1992, As presented at the 1992 Abduction Study Conference at MIT
Two different aspects of False Visions are distinctly represented here. The first, like that of Kathy, was a partial overlaying onto objective reality in a waking state. However, unlike Kathy's case in which all the people saw the UFO, in this case only Maureen saw the entity outside the car, while two people with her did not see it. Maureen alone was having a False Vision, while those with her were not. I would like to point out the same pattern occurs with “ghost encounters” in which someone with supposedly “special sight or powers” can see the ghosts but others with them cannot.
The second False Vision seen here was a full overlaying of objective reality, in a trance state. This is very similar to the case of Robert. The experiences were real to the bodily senses for Maureen, and she seemed to be somewhere else. But in this case Maureen was speaking to people with her while in the trance state, and in her case the passage of time seemed normal. Although she perceived herself in her body in another location in a way that felt real to all of her bodily senses, she never left the car and the two people with her. Maureen also spoke out loud to the people with her during this False Vision experience.
The next case may be of an extreme case of time perception manipulation, or there may be some other explanation for the experience. But we are going to cover this case assuming the time perception manipulation is factual as is recounted with insistence by the abductee. And time perception manipulation as we have covered occurs in False Visions. “The Mars Records” and “The Mars Records 2” detail probably the most extreme case of time perception manipulation I have read about in a False Vision, which is said to have lasted for a subjective period of 20 years. The entirety of the books by Stephanie Relfe, is about the experiences of her husband Michael, with many details.
To summarize, Michael was a childhood abductee, who in the 70s enlisted in the US military. In 1976 Michael had a very unusual experience. He remembered enlisting in a special military program. He then experienced traveling through a “portal” to Mars.
He experienced what seemed to be 20 years of time, which he spent on Mars, and afterwards he perceived his body was made younger and he perceived he traveled back through the “portal” to 1976. Then he was back on Earth, and the time was about a week after he remembers leaving to Mars. During those perceived 20 years he remembers being stationed on the planet Mars on a US military base, working in a Top Secret military operation. He remembers having a wife on Mars, who died on Mars. There were many aliens throughout his experiences, Grays and Reptilians, as well as a Martian population of millions of human people.
In several incidents in the books, the fallen angels include in the False vision a piece of technology, a “portal”, which is portrayed as a time travel machine. As seen in other cases, time can seem to be gained subjectively during abductions, in time perception manipulation. However, in the case of Robert mentioned earlier, while he experienced hours during a minute, his body did not actually go anywhere. This is known as a witness remained with his body for those objective minutes during his subjectively hours-long experiences. As such, actual physical time travel did not take place in either of these cases, but rather the False Vision enabled subjective time perception manipulation.
I would describe this 20-year experience of Michael as a False Vision, of extreme subjective duration in time perception manipulation. Other experiences in the book seem to involve Physical manifestation along with the False Visions.
It is important to note that sometimes fallen angels do cause abductees to see “humans” during a False Vision; however these are not real humans, but instead are part of the vision caused by the fallen angel (exceptions being cases of a group of people attacked together by fallen angels).
In many cases in which fallen angels cause False Visions of humans, the humans are military personnel, and advanced technology appears to be present, these kinds of abductions are called “Mil-abs” for “military abductions”. Except in rare cases of actual government investigation of abductions and interviews with abductees, these Mi-labs are caused by fallen angels, and are just a subset variety of more typical “alien abduction” experiences. The entire experience, like other False visions, is a vision, including the military personnel and advanced technology the person sees.
Remember, these experiences are real to the bodily senses, and the perception of time passage seems normal to the abductee during the experience. Fallen angels sometimes do display technology in False visions, technology which (deceptively) seems to work time travel, which adds a new layer of confusion for the abductee. Fallen angels have expansive supernatural abilities, which they were originally created with by God, and the technology seen is just part of the False vision, which is a deception.
About 2 years after this 20-subjective-year False vision of Mars, in the late 1970s, Michael became a Christian. In the book he gives God and the Lord Jesus Christ credit for his deliverance from the enemy.
“This book is dedicated to God and the Lord Jesus Christ, for without them this book would never have been written… I want to thank the LORD JESUS CHRIST, my saviour for His mercy and blessings and for removing me from the hands of the enemy. It is only by His love and grace that I am on the road to recovery from the effects of mind control and manipulation…
“I also know that the enemy cannot do anything to me unless God allows it and that God has given me weapons to fight back (see the section on deliverance). I will use those weapons without hesitation…
“I believe that only God has the answer for what is happening to the world at this times and that spiritual warfare is a vital part of His ministry for these end times. It is clear that spiritual warfare and deliverance is the only thing that has not been used against these projects and that God's weapons are superior to the weapons of the enemy.”
-The Mars Records, www.metatech.org Dedication, Thank You pgs. 262
According to their website, Michael and Stephanie Relfe, both abductees, have been completely free from abductions for over 7 years now. They say this is from using spiritual warfare and deliverance methods, and through the name and authority of the Lord Jesus Christ.
In reference to being set free from abductions, Michael writes in The Mars Records 2, pg. 205: “You can do the exact same things as I have if you have a personal relationship with The Lord Jesus Christ and if you have faith and follow the warfare prayers in this document. Prayer does not rely on metaphysical abilities or training. I myself do NOTHING. God performs the miracles.”
So far we have covered a variety of False visions, but the next case of Howard, from CE4 Research Group, is one of terrifying dreams.
“…I was not a Christian at this time either. The next experiences I had with the Greys was several years after that when they decided to 'contact' me personally. I remember having a strange dream about them; it wasn't anything bad but just strange, strange enough for me to remember it. I remember laughing about it to someone I knew. The very next night was absolutely terrifying and it left me in no doubt that I was under attack. In my dream I was running away from a UFO and it kept swooping down and buzzing me with its energy. Its energy was one of indescribable terror and malevolence.
Anyway the next day I was quite alarmed because I knew these weren't just dreams and that I was dealing with something quite evil and dangerous. Things got worse and worse because they kept at me every night. It got to the point where I became too afraid to go to sleep because I knew they were waiting for me. Have you ever seen the film nightmare on Elm Street? Well I was living that. I do remember in my dreams that I used violence on them, but this did not harm them not even in the slightest. To be honest with you, I think they quite enjoyed it; it was like a game for them. I was getting extremely desperate; I couldn't work or think because I was too afraid to sleep so I was tired all the time.”
-CE4 Research Group, the Testimony of Howard, www.alienresistance.org/ce4testimonies.htm
This case described UFOs and “gray aliens” appearing in nightmares, which were so terrible they were causing him to be afraid to go to sleep. This is like the terrifying dreams and visions Job describes in the Bible, which he experienced while under attacks from Satan.
Howard later describes turning to the Bible for answers, and soon being set free from having these dreams which were destroying his life. He credits Jesus Christ and God with having freed him from these dreams.
Chapter 6 – Alien Abduction Experiences
I am only going to be including one case example of the Physical Manifestation of a fallen angel, known as the Malmstrom UFO Incident. I think many Physical manifestations do take place today, in minor ways. Many of these could arguably be found on TV shows such as “Ghost Hunters” and similar paranormal shows, which record “voices of ghosts”, and things like that. Also, there are supposedly many real photos or videos of orbs, ghosts, and even UFOs and aliens on the internet. This seems to be physical manifestation, perhaps directly onto film. And this is besides the injuries which abductees get during False Vision experiences. These all seem to be minor physical manifestations which go along with False Vision experiences. But I am only going to be including one case of physical manifestation, which seems to be a major incident, and shows more of the extreme line that fallen angels seem to be crossing today.
There are many declassified military reports, documenting military encounters with UFOs. I hope these have a level of credibility that is acceptable. I only am personally aware of one such documented military reporting that fits the supernatural requirements to clearly show it was a Physical Manifestation of fallen angels. This is due to a supernaturally caused electronic malfunction that is otherwise unexplainable.
March 16, 1967
“Early in the morning on the sixteenth, at Malmstrom AFB in Montana, one of the most extraordinary events in the history of military-UFO encounters took place. Under a clear and dark Montana sky, an airman with the Oscar Flight Launch Control Center (LCC) saw a starlike object zigzagging high above him. Soon, a larger and closer light also appeared and acted in similar fashion. He called his NCO, and the two men watched inawe as the lights streaked through the sky, maneuvering in impossible ways. The NCO phoned his commander, Robert Salas, who was below ground in the launch control center. Salas was dubious. “Great,” he said. “You just keep watching them and let me know if they get any closer.”
A few minutes later, the NCO called Salas again. As Salas later wrote, this time he was clearly frightened and shouted that a red, glowing UFO was hovering outside the front gate. “What do you want us to do?” asked the NCO. Salas told him to make sure the site was secure while he phoned the command post. “Sir,” replied the NCO, “I have to go now, one of the guys just got injured.” Before Salas could ask about the injury, the NCO was off the line. The man, who was not seriously injured, was evacuated by helicopter to the base. Meanwhile, Salas woke his commander, Lt. Fred Meiwald. As he briefed Meiwald, an alarm rang through the small capsule, and both men saw a “No-Go” light turn on for one of the missiles. Within seconds, several more missiles went down in succession.
Twenty miles away, at the Echo-Flight launch facilities, the same scenario was taking place. First Lt. Walter Figel, the deputy crew commander of the Missile Combat Crew, was at his station when one of the Minuteman missiles went into “No-Go” status. He immediately called the missile site to determine the cause of the problem. Was it because of the scheduled missile maintenance, he asked the security guard? No, came the response, as the maintenance had not yet taken place. However, continued the guard, a UFO had been hovering over the site. Like Salas, Figel doubted the story. Before he had any time to reflect on this, however, ten more ICBMs in rapid succession reported a “No-Go” condition. Within seconds, the entire flight was down.
Strike teams were dispatched to two of the E-flight launch facilities, where maintenance crews were already at work. Figel had not told the strike teams about the UFO report. Upon their arrival, however, the teams reported back to him that all of the maintenance and security personnel had been watching UFOs hover over each of the sites.
The missiles were down for the greater part of a day. The air force investigation included full-scale tests on-site, as well as laboratory tests at the Boeing Company's Seattle plant. No cause for the shutdown could be found. The Boeing engineering chief said, “there was no technical explanation that could explain the event.”
-Richard M. Dolan, UFOs and theNationalSecurityState, Pgs. 322-323
In the Malmstrom UFO incident, UFOs are associated with the supernatural electronic malfunction of at least 15 nuclear ICBMs. Scientists and engineers examined what had happened, and concluded “there was no technical explanation that could explain the event”. As such I would say these UFOs were caused by a fallen angel causing a large group to have a False Vision of the form of a UFO. But at the same time, fallen angels also physically manifested, so as to cause supernatural electronic malfunctions to several nuclear missiles in the immediate vicinity. This technological malfunction is a more major documented event of physical manifestation of fallen angels, which left behind documented military records as evidence that this event occurred, as well as some military personnel who claim to have witnessed this event.
Chapter 7 - Alien Abduction Experiences
False Visions Combined with Partial Physical Manifestation
The next cases of Fallen Angelic Attacks are of False Visions which are combined with Partial Physical Manifestation.
The Valdes Case
“On April 25, 1977, Valdés, along with five members of an army patrol, saw two bright objects descending from the sky. Valdés set out alone to investigate and, according to the men, simply vanished. Fifteen minutes later, they said, he reappeared, tried to speak and passed out. The date on his watch had been advanced five days, and he had about a week's growth of beard.”
-Cate Setterfield, Armed Forces Reveal UFO Presence in Chile, TheValparaiso Times 2/11/07
“The corporal moved toward the object. He disappeared for some 15 minutes. When he reappeared, he was shaking and his voice seemed different. The light had been illuminating the whole area…He then became unconscious and was attended by his fellow men till he awoke some two hours later. The UFO also disappeared about this time. While the unconscious Corporal Valdes was assisted by his patrol, his men made another strange observation. They saw that Valdes had a beard growth equivalent to several days without shaving. He had been well shaven before the incident. As Valdes awoke he exclaimed, “I don't remember anything from the moment I left you.” He then ordered, ”Get ready to leave because it's 4:30 in the morning. It was actually about 7 AM. His calendar watch had stopped at 4:30 but the date was five days advanced – to the 30th instead of the 25th.”
-Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (APRO), 1977
Much like the Biblical account of Jesus tempted by Satan seen in Luke 4, in which Jesus experienced a far longer period of time in less than a second, the Valdes case shows time perception manipulation. In principle, this is the same thing.
In the Valdes case, the time manipulation seems very physical instead of perceptual, because his watch was moved ahead by 5 days, and he had 5 days growth of a beard, after only 15 minutes of time passing in objective reality. It also seems very physical because he disappeared for 15 minutes and his men could not see him. As such, this seems to be a case of a False Vision couple with powerful Physical Manifestation seen in the effects on Valdes' body.
One way to look at this is that, like the boils of Job described in Biblical Physical Manifestations onto the body, a fallen angel was able to supernaturally cause rapid hair growth, and also alter Valdes' watch. The men might have been blocked with a group False Vision, from being able to see Valdes, even if he was nearby within normal sight distance. This is similar to the case of Peter escaping from prison in that no one could see him. There is nothing in this case that necessitates that Valdez went anywhere, merely that those with him could no longer see him. And there is nothing here that proves his body experienced 5 days worth of time in 15 minutes, but the simplest explanation would be that fallen angels affected his body supernaturally to grow hair very quickly, and altered his watch.
And so there is nothing in this case which “must” indicate the science fiction concept of “time travel”. Nothing in this case shows that Valdes traveled backwards in time, or that he traveled forward in time more than anyone else did (that being 15 minutes). Valdes' experiences during the abduction are unknown, but even if he had reported he subjectively experienced 5 days worth of time in 15 minutes, this would have been time perception manipulation in a False Vision. This is a separate matter from the hair growth, and his watch changing, and other people not being able to see him. The simplest explanation is that this entire event was staged with the goal in mind of deception, it being caused by fallen angels whose goal is to deceive.
In a cases like this one, and as in the case of Michael Relfe, it becomes apparent that fallen angels want people to believe that they can time travel – which in itself is a good reason to not believe such – but there are alternate explanations for everything which occurred in this case which match Biblical teaching on what fallen angels are known to be able to do. However, there is nothing in the Bible which teaches that angels can time travel, and in opposition, the Bible does teach that God has absolute authority over time, and appoints things to happen at certain times, which fallen angels cannot interfere with, or alter. Jesus Christ is “the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end”.
The next case of Anita is a good overview of physical injuries that many abductees have after fallen angelic attacks:
“Anita has been consciously aware of UFO activity since childhood, and her brothers and sisters have also had recurrent UFO events throughout their lives. So, perhaps, may have some of Anita's children and grandchildren…
So are the various marks and injuries she has discovered on her body . “Lots of mornings,” Anita said, “I have gotten up feeling like someone beat me up in my sleep .” This is another common abductee report, waking up with sore, damaged-feeling muscles and joints. “ I have waked up with bruises on my arms, shoulders, and legs ,” she continued, “with no idea where they came from. I have found scratches that I could not remember having gotten the day before .”
The evidence for vigorous physical activity during the night, although unremembered, comes from more than just Anita's sore or scarred body, however. In one incident, she woke up in the morning and felt an unfamiliar pain in her right hand. “I sat up in bed,” she explained, “and found that sometime during the night my ring had been squashed on my finger .” She managed with effort to remove the ring, but neither her husband nor a jeweler could completely restore its original shape .
On another occasion, Anita got out of bed one morning and found the crucifix from her necklace lying on the floor . “ It had been on my neck the night before,” she said, “and the chain was still on [me]. But the only way to remove the crucifix is to remove the necklace and take it off the chain.”
She has also awakened several mornings to discover that something had happened to her clothing, a report frequently echoed by other abductees. In one instance, she woke up with her nightie on backward , although she was certain she had not taken it off, turned it around, and put it back on. And on a different occasion she found that the nightie was not only backward but had also been turned inside-out . In the night during one of these events, she had an altered-state experience in which she recalled a group of Tan aliens observing her as she was “free-falling,” an event which did not feel unduly upsetting for some reason…. Anita had quite a severe reaction to another similar event, however, venting much more emotion than the situation seemed to call for. It was in the winter, during the Christmas holidays one night, and she had worn socks to bed for extra warmth. When she woke up the next day and found that one of her socks was missing ,…Anita was also physically upset that morning, suffering from a violent headache and nausea which caused her to vomit, yet there was no illness to account for the symptoms. Still, she might not have been overly concerned about the vanished sock and her physical problems, if her young granddaughter hadn't made a disturbing comment…The seven-year-old child told her grandmother that some “mean men” had come in and taken her away during the night . When Anita asked her to describe the “mean men,” the little girl called them “the mushroom men .”
“What are the mushroom men?” Anita asked, and her granddaughter then found the book MISSING TIME by Budd Hopkins and pointed to the drawing on the cover.…The girl said the creatures were about a foot tall, gray-skinned and had four fingers rather than five-a detail not apparent in the cover picture. There were quite a few of these entities present, she said. Anita remembered nothing strange that night herself, but the physical symptoms, the missing sock, and her granddaughter's story were indicative enough of an intrusive incident to be of great concern.”
-Karla Turner PhD, Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda, Pgs. 46, 50-51
As for Physical Manifestation, there were physical aftereffects that remained and were seen by others, such as her bent ring. The case of Anita is a good overview of physical injuries that many abductees have after this type of fallen angelic attack.
In this case there was another person involved, her 7 year old granddaughter that saw part of the experience, and this part was a case of a False Vision seen by multiple people. As in the Valdes case, part of the False Vision on the child was her grandmother seemed to be missing, in that she was unseen and not visible for a period of time. And the child in the False Vision also saw her grandmother be taken, deceiving her into thinking her grandmother has went somewhere. But the simplest explanation is that Anita did not go anywhere, but that her and her granddaughter both experienced False Visions that night. And this along with various degrees of Physical manifestation throughout Anita's experiences, including objects moved, and injuries, and physical illness.
It is important to note that innocent children can be attacked by fallen angels, as in this case, and this is a type of generational curse. While on that topic, another case from Karla Turner's book Taken is of a child (though this case does not involve Physical manifestation):
“When I was seven or eight years old,” Beth related, “my father gave us permission, my sister and me, to go outside and play with the other children, who were playing hide-and-seek. It was close to six in the evening. I remember that I went to hide between some bushes, and then I heard a sound, somebody else. And as I turned, I saw what I thought at that moment was one of the other kids.
“The next thing I know,” she continued, “it was dark, and I was very surprised. When I got home, my father was very mad at me and my mother was very upset. My father told me that they had been calling me and looking for me for hours. But I couldn't understand it,” she said. “The place where I was hiding was less than a hundred feet from the front of the house. I was hiding there, and it was daylight, and then the next thing I know it was dark-and I was scared.
“Recently I had another memory about that,” she added. “That kid I thought was there, he was an alien, one of the Grays. He took me to a ship, but I don't remember what happened after that.”
-Karla Turner PhD, Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda, Pg. 56
I think the most efficient way to explain this case is that first the child Beth had a False Vision of an “alien” approaching her, which overlaid onto objective reality. Then Beth was effectively hidden from her parents by fallen angels by a False Vision her parents were caused to have, which kept them from seeing their daughter as they looked for her. While this was going on, the child Beth experienced a False Vision of being with Grays on a ship. A combination of various aspects of False Visions would suffice to explain this experience.
This case is somewhat reminiscent of the abduction case of Travis Walton, who was missing for 5 days, and remembered only 2 hours. I do feel that the explanation for the case of Beth is also an adequate explanation for the Walton case. He was present, but all those involved in searching for him were prevented from seeing him. The main difference is that he was made unconscious for the majority of the 5 days, except for the 2 hours in which he experienced a False Vision.
Chapter 8 – Modern Physics and the Abilities of Fallen Angels
False Visions, Dreams, and Physical Manifestation
And so after looking at several “alien abduction” cases it seems that the abilities of Fallen angels to cause False Visions (and all that entails) and terrifying dreams, as well as elements of Physical manifestation, are sufficient to explain what abductees experience.
Next we are going to move on to looking at the Physics and Science of this being the case, and how science does not conflict with the existence of fallen angels, or them having these abilities. Some people think that the most straightforward explanation for these alien abductions is flesh-and-blood extraterrestrials with advanced technology, even perhaps having time-travel capabilities, and perhaps with military involvement. And to some people, the explanation of fallen angels with vast supernatural powers who can cause powerful deceptions seems too spiritual of an answer. But the understanding of Modern science and it's theories actually allows both for the existence of such creatures as fallen angels, and for them to have inherit supernatural powers such as these. The explanation of fallen angels is not any less science-friendly than biological extraterrestrials with advanced technology, and actually in some ways the explanation of fallen angels is more science-friendly, contradicting modern known science far less than the biological ET with advanced technology explanation.
Some people think the miraculous is impossible, and use science as a justification for this claim. The miraculous could be miracles from God, or worked through Holy angels. Or the miraculous can come in the form of false signs, miracles and wonders from fallen angels, such as what they do in causing False Visions, dreams, and physical manifestations.
The goal of the following is to show the miraculous abilities of God, Holy and fallen angels are allowed by science, using modern physics terminology and theories. This is towards being about to explain how they might do such things, from a modern physics perspective.
The main point of doing this is to show that modern science does not preclude the existence of the miraculous. I believe modern science actually completely allows for either God or angels of either kind to work miracles without violating the laws of science, and for the existence of angels and their Biblically described abilities. The science involved is all just theoretical, mainly secular theories, and I do not claim any of it is correct, though much of it is accepted as such by some people.
How the Miraculous Does Not Conflict with Modern Science Theories
All of the categories of angelic Visions would be called supernatural events. There are some words in the Bible to describe the “supernatural” activities of God, Holy angels, and fallen angels.
Greek – signs “semeion” (4592), wonders “teras” (5059), and miracles “dynamis” (1411). These same 3 words are all used in the context of:
1. God – the power of God in signs, wonders, and miracles that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit through the gift of miracles, as seen throughout the Bible
2. Holy Angels – Holy angels. (Acts 2:22, 5:12, 2 Peter 2:11, Heb 2:4)
3. Fallen angels, of the dragon and beast, and the “3 evil spirits like frogs”. (Matt 24:24, 2 Thess 2:9, Rev 13:2, 14, 16:14)
From the Bible it is clear that God in His three persons, Holy angels, and also Fallen angels, are all capable of performing signs, wonders, and miracles. How, in physics terminology, might God work signs, wonders, and miracles?
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what [is] the breadth , and length , and depth , and height
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending , saith the Lord , which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
According to modern science, we live in an observably 4 dimensional universe. The universe is made of space(3) + and time(1) dimensions, which equal the Spacetime we can see. God made all the 3 dimensions of space that we see (length, width, and height), when God “created the heavens and the earth”. (Eph 3:18 also references to the “depth” which compares more the size or extent or full scope of something.) God made the dimension of time “in the beginning”, which marked the creation of time itself, the dimension of time as we know it. God is eternal, and having made time itself, God is outside of time, and was here before time was created. God has complete authority and control over the dimension of time. God also made the three dimensions of space that we can see, and is also outside of them. So, God made it all, and is outside of the entire universe, having created it.
Above I use the term “dimension” as it is referred to in science. To quote Wikipedia,
“In physical terms, dimension refers to the constituent structure of all space (cf. volume) and its position in time (perceived as a scalar dimension along the t-axis), as well as the spatial constitution of objects within —structures that have correlations with both particle and field conceptions, interact according to relative properties of mass, and which are fundamentally mathematical in description. These or other axes may be referenced to uniquely identify a point or structure in its attitude and relationship to other objects and events. Physical theories that incorporate time, such as general relativity, are said to work in 4-dimensional “space-time”, (defined as a Minkowski space). Modern theories tend to be “higher-dimensional” including quantum field and string theories. The state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.” – Dimension, Wikipedia
This use of the term “dimension” should not be confused with the science fiction concept of a “parallel universe”. Again to quote Wikipedia on the term “Dimension”,
“Science fiction texts often mention the concept of dimension, when really referring to parallel universes, alternate universes, or other planes of existence. This usage is derived from the idea that to travel to parallel/alternate universes/planes of existence one must travel in a direction/dimension besides the standard ones. In effect, the other universes/planes are just a small distance away from our own, but the distance is in a fourth (or higher) spatial (or non-spatial) dimension, not the standard ones.”
The “parallel universe” concept in science fiction actually is very different from the use of the term “dimension” in science, as you can see above. In theory, a “parallel universe” would also have 3 spatial dimensions (length, width, height) and a time dimension. That means a “parallel universe” in theory actually has 4 dimensions of its own. Additionally the assumption is that there is a 5 th dimension to our universe which would be used to allow travel to the parallel world, which has its own 4 dimensions.
It would not be accurate to say a “parallel universe” uses the same 4 dimensions that our universe has, because by definition a “universe” is everything that is. So a “parallel universe” would have to have its own construct of dimensions which define its reality and cosmological structure, and not just borrow use of the dimensions inherit in our own universe. This is of course all fictional theories that come from science fiction, which has nothing to do with actual science. And I want to clarify this, as any statement that science has straight theories on “other dimensions” does NOT have anything to do with the science fiction concept of “parallel universes”. If science were to find some evidence of observation of a “5 th dimension” inherent in our universe, this has nothing to do with a “parallel universe”. The term “dimension” is a science term first, and has been misleadingly borrowed by science fiction in such a way that its meaning is construed.
The Bible teaches that “in the beginning” God made the “heavens and the earth” , and that at the end of the 6 th day God “ saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, [it was] very good…Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.” Gen 1:31,2:1.
This means that in making the heavens and the earth, and the host of them, God made everything that He made. There isn't anything else besides what God made, and there is no mention made of any other universe besides the entirety of the universe we know which God made. So there actually are no “parallel universes” and the concept itself contradicts the Bible, as this universe is all God is said to have made, and is well-defined by the Bible. God made the heavens and the earth, and these terms are well-defined, and there is nothing more that God made besides the heavens and the Earth, and the host of them.
We know what the Earth is, but beyond this there are multiple heaven(s) that God made, and the Bible defines each of them for us.
The first heaven is the sky or atmosphere, and is where the rain comes from and where the birds fly. (Gen 1:7-8, Jer 4:25, Rev 19:17, Deut 11:17, 28:12, Jud 5:4, Acts 14:17)
The second heaven is outer-space, where the sun and moon, and all the stars, planets, and galaxies are located. (Jer 8:2, Isa 13:10)
The third heaven is where God dwells, where God's throne is, and this is where the angels are who are in heaven. (1 Kin 8:30, Psa 2:4, 11:4, Isa 66:1, 2 Ch 18:18, Matt 5:16) The third heaven is also called the “highest heaven” or the “heaven of heavens”. It is called the “heaven of heavens” because it is the heaven of the first and second heavens. (1 Kin 8:27, Deut 10:14)
And so the Earth, the atmosphere (first heaven), outer-space (second heaven), and where God's throne and the angels in heaven dwell (third heaven) is all the areas that exist in all of God's creation. None of these are a “parallel universe”, and so the Bible does not describe any “parallel universes” to exist. Rather, the Bible's thorough defining of the entirety of creation actually precludes the existence of anything along the lines of the concept of a “parallel universe”.
All that being said, using the term “dimensions” in a science context, (spatial length, width, height, and time) are there more dimensions that God made, besides the 4 we can perceive, and see with the naked eye? It seems possible that there are more dimensions than we can perceive, because the Bible teaches there is an invisible spiritual realm.
The Earth has 4 dimensions that we can see, but also the Bible teaches that there is an invisible spiritual realm all around us on Earth, and in this spiritual realm, spirits have a presence, like Holy angels, fallen angels, and demons. We know that demons, when they are cast out, travel through desert places, yet we cannot see them. (Matt 12:43, Luke 11:24) We know that an army can exist on this Earth invisibly, right in front of us, while remaining unseen. This happened in the case of Elisha and his friend, And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.” (2 Kin 6:17) When God opened his eyes to the spiritual realm, he saw an army all around them fighting for them. This is the spiritual realm that exists all around us, but is invisible.
The same sort of army, God's army which is the “host of heaven” or the angels of God, is mentioned in Josh 5-6 in the battle of Jericho. “And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?” (Josh 5:14) The “host” of the Lord is His army, which are the angels. While the walls of Jericho seemed to fall miraculously, the Bible does indicate that the army of God's angels was present. It is entirely likely that God's angels had a hand in the actual mechanics of the wall of Jericho coming down. And so we know there is an invisible spiritual realm here on Earth.
In the first heaven, the atmosphere, the Bible also indicates that besides the physical part of the atmosphere, of air and clouds, that the invisible spiritual realm is there also. Angels fly in the atmosphere, which is the first heaven, so the invisible spiritual realm must be there too. (Eze 8:3, John 1:32, Rev 8:13) And Satan is called the “prince of the power of the air” by the Bible, and “air” refers to the atmosphere (Eph 2:2).
The third heaven seems to be entirely made of an invisible spiritual realm, as when we look into the farthest reaches of space, we cannot see God's throne or the angels. As obvious as that is, it shows us that precisely wherever God's throne and the angels of heaven are, they are in an invisible spiritual realm. And this makes sense that the third heaven is a spiritual realm, as the third heaven is where God is, and God is spirit.
In between is the second heaven, which is defined by the Bible as outer-space. The Bible clearly indicates that the second heaven also contains the invisible spiritual realm, and that angels pass through it as they descend to Earth, and ascend back to the third heaven.
“And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I [am] the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed…”
Gen 28:12-13 makes clear that the second heaven, which is outer-space, must also contain the invisible spiritual realm, as we do not see the angels as they ascend and descend through the second heaven. The ladder which Jacob saw indicates God has given the angels a method by which to ascend and descend. That Jacob could see Lord above the ladder indicates that the distance was not very far that the angels had to travel. So the Bible seems to teach that the angels do not actually have to transverse the vast distances of outer-space in order to reach the earth, as is seen in the physical dimensions. Rather, in the invisible spiritual realm, the distance is short enough between heaven and earth, no longer than a ladder you can see the top of. A sort of permanent ladder has been created by God for angels to travel through the 2 nd heaven, going between the 1 st and 3 rd heavens. And so angels can be dispatched to Earth quickly, as the invisible spiritual realm is not limited by the way time is bounded in physics by the physical dimensions. How this actually works is somewhat vague, but we can get the general idea from what the Bible does say. In any case, the invisible spiritual realm also seems to exist throughout the second heaven, which is outer-space.
And so the Earth and all 3 of the heavens have an invisible spiritual realm that seems to pervade through all of them. Here on Earth the spiritual realm is all around us, but invisible. The Bible teaches that God created an invisible side to the universe, “For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.” (Col 1:16)
And it should be noted that the terms here for “rulers, authorities” all refer to fallen angels. This can be seen by comparing this with Eph 6:12, “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].” And so these powers and authorities are the invisible fallen angels.
While they can physically manifest, it seems that fallen angels also have something akin to bodies made of spirit. We are 4 dimensional in our physicality, being made for 4 dimensions. Angels are spirits, and Jesus said after His Resurrection in Luke 24: “Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.” Luke 24:39
This could be taken, that truly angels are not physical life of the 3 physical dimensions we live in, as we are. Rather, angels are spirits of the spiritual realm, and their “bodies” exist in the spiritual realm. It would make sense that their bodies are composed of the substance of this invisible spiritual realm they live in, as human bodies are composed of the stuff of the 3 physical dimensions we live in.
1 Cor 15:40, 44 [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another… It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
The Bible acknowledges that there can be bodies made of spirit, or spiritual bodies. As our human terrestrial bodies are composed of 4-dimensional physical matter, it would make sense that living spirit or heavenly bodies would be composed of the equivalent of the “matter” of the invisible spiritual realm. Angels have such spiritual bodies, and were created with such. It would make sense that there is at least a 5 th dimension, if not more, and that the angels' bodies are composed of the analogy to our “4d matter” which is in that spiritual realm. The spiritual realm might be composed of several dimensions, in the scientific sense of the term, such as a spiritual realm width, length, and height. But even if the spiritual realm is just 1 extra dimension, in the scientific sense of the term, the invisible spiritual realm would still be a 5 th dimension, 1 more dimension that the 4 dimensional physical world which we routinely perceive.
All of this leads to the point that this invisible spiritual realm may be composed of more dimensions, as per the scientific use of the term. The additional dimension(s) of the invisible spiritual realm, would be an extra dimension that is at least one more than the 4 dimensions that we perceive. Thus it would be fair to call angels “extra-dimensional”, meaning of more dimensions than us, esp. if the invisible spiritual realm correlates to extra dimensions, per the science use of the term.
However, God is not simply extra-dimensional. God is eternal, and therefore is what I call “outer-dimensional”. God is outside of dimensionality, being eternal and the Creator of everything that is, including all theoretical dimensions of the heavens and earth, and everything living in them. So to coin a term, God is “outer-dimensional”. This is an important distinction between the God the Creator, and His creation. The Bible says that all three of the heavens and the earth cannot contain God, which makes sense as He made them all; however they do manage to contain everything He created. “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?” 1 Kin 8:27
Now, the Earth is made by God, and it has visible dimensions that science has studied many things in, and the same for the first and second heaven. We also know there is an invisible spiritual realm throughout God's creation. Science has said much on the visible physical realm. But the fact that the spiritual realm is invisible does not mean that science will never have anything to say about it, or that no rules or bounds may operate upon the angels who live there. In fact, it seems that there are rules and bounds, like laws of physics, which are inherit in the spiritual realm as well. Even the battle in Rev 12 between the Holy angels and the fallen angels indicates that there are opposing forces best described as some spiritual realm physics being present. This is implied even in that the Holy angels prevailed, and pushed the fallen angels out of heaven, casting them down to earth. You can't have one angel pushing another without some concept of physics being implied, even in the spiritual realm. As such, there is some chance that the invisible spiritual realm does have physics rules under which it operates, and if so, that where the invisible spiritual realm touches the visible physical realm that we know, science might be able to glean some insight, or give some insight. This possibility is especially interesting in light of more and more of modern physics studying things which are invisible, and theories on what invisible dimensions may exist behind the scenes in the universe.
So if we were to guess that the invisible spiritual realm, and the creatures who are there, do have something to do with an extra dimension or dimensions (in the scientific use of the term), and spirits are therefore extra-dimensional beings, what would modern physics have to say about this?
Modern physics actually does include the topic of extra dimensions, and talk from scientists about extra dimensions has to do with something called “string theory” or “superstring theory”.
Some branches in modern physics are well established through experiments, such as gravity, relativity, quantum mechanics, much of particle physics, electromagnetism, and the weak and strong nuclear forces. String theory is not established, but rather is an attempt to bring all these branches of the tree of physics together, to connect them, to draw and see the trunk that all the branches stem from. String theory is highly theoretical, unproven, likely improvable and unverifiable, highly mathematical, and requires 10-11 dimensions to theoretically be able to describe the trunk of the tree of modern physics.
Here is quote from Lisa Randall PhD, a leading theoretical physicist and expert on particle physics, string theory, and cosmology:
“How many dimensions of space are there? Do we really know? By now, I hope you would agree that it would be overreaching to claim that we know for certain that extra dimensions do not exist. We see three dimensions of space, but there could be more that we haven't yet detected. You know now that extra dimensions can be hidden either because they are curled up and small, or because spacetime is warped and gravity so concentrated in a small region that even an infinite dimension is invisible. Either way, whether dimensions are compact or localized, spacetime would appear to be four-dimensional everywhere, no matter where you are.”
-Lisa Randall PhD, Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions, pg. 437
Lisa Randall is saying, according to modern physics, that there may be very large, even infinitely large, invisible dimensions that do exist, although we can only perceive the 4 dimensions of space-time. A 5 th large dimension such as this could be the invisible spiritual realm taught in the Bible, which contains angels in their spirit bodies of that dimension.
And here is a quote from Stephen Hawking Phd, one of the most famous scientists and theoretical astrophysicists of our time, commenting his thoughts on Randall's work:
“If fact, in order to explain the rate in which stars orbit the center of our galaxy, it seems there must be more mass than is accounted for by matter we observe. This missing mass might arise from some exotic species of particles in our world such as WIMPs (weakly interacting massive particles) or axions (very light elementary particles). But missing mass could also be evidence of the existence of a shadow world with matter in it … Instead of the extra dimensions ending on a shadow brane, another possibility is that they are infinite but highly curved, like a saddle . Lisa Randall and Raman Sundrum showed that this kind of curvature would act rather like a second brane: the gravitational influence of an object on the brane would be confined to a small neighborhood of the brane and not spread out to infinity in the extra dimensions. As in the shadow brane model, the gravitational field would have the right long-distance falloff to explain the planetary orbits and lab measurements of the gravitational force, but gravity would vary more rapidly at short distances. There is however an important difference between this Randall-Sundrum model and the shadow brane model. Bodies that move under the influence of gravity will produce gravitational waves, ripples of curvature that travel through spacetime at the speed of light. Like the electromagnetic waves of light , gravitational waves should carry energy, a prediction that has been confirmed by observations of the binary pulsar PSR1913+16. If we indeed live on a brane in a spacetime with extra dimensions , gravitational waves generated by the motion of bodies on the brane would travel off into the other dimensions. If there were a second shadow brane, gravitational waves would be reflected back and trapped between the two branes. On the other hand, if there was only a single brane and the extra dimensions went on forever, as in the Randall-Sundrum model, gravitational waves could escape altogether and carry away energy from our brane world. This would seem to breach one of the fundamental principles of physics: The Law of Conservation of Energy. The total amount of energy remains the same. However, it appears to be a violation only because our view of what is happening is restricted to the brane. An angel who could see the extra dimensions would know that the energy was the same, just more spread out.”
-Stephen Hawking, PhD, L'Univers dans une coquille de noix, pgs. 184-192
While giving credence to Randall's statement, basically Hawking says that very large extra-dimensions are possible, and would not violate the known laws of physics. In fact, their existence might help explain some rather large befuddling questions in science that are still unanswered, such as missing mass. As such, science allows for the existence of an invisible spiritual realm, potentially one in which angels are, and the spirit bodies of angels could be composed of the stuff of this extra dimension, this invisible realm.
The branch of physics called quantum mechanics deals with particles which are subatomic (that is smaller than an atom). Quantum mechanics has been well-established through scientific experimentation. Unlike string theory, quantum mechanics is a field of practical experimentation. It is in quantum physics that we find the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle:
In quantum physics, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that certain pairs of physical properties, like position and momentum, cannot both be known to arbitrary precision. That is, the more precisely one property is known, the less precisely the other can be known. It is impossible to measure simultaneously both position and velocity of a microscopic particle with any degree of accuracy or certainty. This is not a statement about the limitations of a researcher's ability to measure particular quantities of a system, but rather about the nature of the system itself and hence it expresses a property of the universe.
-Wikipedia, Uncertainty Principle
This basically means that on a subatomic level, that of electrons, quarks, photons, etc., there seems to be a fundamental principal of randomness. Particles go where they seem to want to go. Particles almost seem to choose what they are doing. However, these choices do form an overall pattern, of statistically calculable probabilities.
One of the most well-known and respectable scientists in recent history, instrumental in the development of quantum mechanics, was Richard Feynman PhD. He worked on the Manhattan project developing the atomic bomb, was a recipient of the Nobel Prize in Physics, and is also known for demonstrating the O-ring defects resulting in the space shuttle Challenger tragedy.
To quote Richard Feynman PhD on the Uncertainty Principle in quantum mechanics:
One might still like to ask: “How does it work? What is the machinery behind the law?” No one has found any machinery behind the law. No one can “explain” any more than we have just “explained.” No one will give you any deeper representation of the situation. We have no ideas about a more basic mechanism from which these results can be deduced.
We would like to emphasize a very important difference between classical and quantum mechanics. We have been talking about the probability that an electron will arrive in a given circumstance. We have implied that in our experimental arrangement (or even in the best possible one) it would be impossible to predict exactly what would happen. We can only predict the odds! This would mean, if it were true, that physics has given up on the problem of trying to predict exactly what will happen in a definite circumstance. Oui! physics has given up. We do not know how to predict what would happen in a given circumstance, and we believe now that it is impossible—that the only thing that can be predicted is the probability of different events. It must be recognized that this is a retrenchment in our earlier ideal of understanding nature. It may be a backward step but no one has found a way to avoid it.
No one has figured a way out of this puzzle. So at the present time we must limit ourselves to computing probabilities. We say “at the present time,” but we suspect very strongly that it is something that will be with us forever—that it is impossible to beat that puzzle—that this is the way nature really is.
-Richard P. Feynman, PhD, The Feynman Lectures on Physics, Vol. 3, pgs.1-10,1-11
So why is it that at the scale of the tiniest parts of the universe, that there is all this randomness? Why has science given up on precise predictability, and accepted that uncertainty and chance rule the microscopic domain of the most basic and fundamental building blocks of the universe? Why can only probabilities be known?
With the advent of quantum mechanics, we have come to recognize that events cannot be predicted with complete accuracy but that there is always a degree of uncertainty. If one likes, one could ascribe this randomness to the intervention of God , but it would be a very strange kind of intervention: there is no evidence that it is directed toward any purpose. Indeed, if it were, it would by definition not be random. In modern times, we have effectively removed the third possibility above by redefining the goal of science: our aim is to formulate a set of laws that enables us to predict events only up to the limit set by the uncertainty principle.
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Illustrated Brief History of Time, Pg 224
There is always an element of uncertainty or chance, and this affects the behavior of matter on a small scale in a fundamental way. Einstein was almost singlehandedly responsible for general relativity, and he played an important part in the development of quantum mechanics. His feelings about the matter are summed up in the phrase “ God does not play dice.” But all the evidence indicates that God is an inveterate gambler and that He throws the dice on every possible occasion.
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, pg. 70
Regarding quantum physics, Einstein said that “God does not play dice”, and Stephen Hawking says, “God throws the dice on every possible occasion”.
But what does the Bible say on the topic of dice and God?
Prov 16:33 We may throw the dice, but the LORD determines how they fall.
Assuming that whether it is us or the universe that throws the dice, it makes no difference, then what the Bible indicates is that God set up the universe to “play dice” on a quantum level, but at the same time, God is the one that determines how those “quantum dice” fall. By “quantum dice” I am referring to all of the subatomic particles/energies and their activities on the microscopic scale of the quantum level.
However, if the uncertainty principle of quantum physics is correct, then the Bible assures us that God still sets the rules and outcomes for the seeming “randomness” of the “quantum dice”. God is in control of the randomness and the probabilities that we see.
Some Christians who are Scientists speak on this very issue:
John Byl has a PhD in Astronomy, is the author of the book “God and Cosmos: A Christian View of Time, Space, and the Universe”, and is Professor of Mathematics and Head of the Department of Mathematical Sciences at Trinity Western University.
“ WG Pollard and, more recently, Nancey Murphy advocate that the apparently random events at the quantum level are all specific, intentional acts of God. God's action at this level is limited in that
(1) He respects the integrity of the entities with which He co-operates (eg, He doesn't change the electron's mass arbitrarily) and
(2) He restricts His action to produce a world that, for all we can tell, is orderly and law-like.
God is the hidden variable. Murphy asserts that this position is not only theologically preferable to indeterminism, but has the further advantage of consistency with the principle of sufficient reason. Of course, if God is directly responsible for quantum events this entails that these are therefore predictable by God. Hence we are left with a deterministic universe, at least at the quantum level.”
“God's sovereignty rules out the possibility of agents acting independently of Him. In particular, quantum mechanics does not imply ontological indeterminism , given that determinist interpretations of quantum mechanics are possible, that non-physical secondary causes cannot be ruled out and that God is the primary cause for all events.”
-John Byl PhD, “Indeterminacy, Divine action and Human Freedom”
William Pollard PhD, is a Nuclear Physicist and Episcopal Priest, with a PhD in Physics and Honorary doctorates in science, divinity, law, and humane letters. He is the author of “Chance and Providence: God's Action in a World Governed by Scientific Law”. The entire book is on God operating, instead of “chance”, in quantum mechanics.
“In the next chapter I will begin the presentation for your consideration of a quite different approach to this problem which seems to me to offer an entirely adequate solution for it. Under it, as we shall attempt to show, there can emerge again in all of its ancient power the fullness of the Biblical response to the living God who is ever active in the whole of His creation sustaining, providing, judging, and redeeming all things, both in heaven and in earth, in accordance with the mysterious and hidden purposes of His might will. At the same time, however, this is accomplished in such a way that the essential integrity and unity of science, both as it is now and as in principle it may become, is fully preserved.”
“To Einstein's famous question expressing his abhorrence of quantum mechanics, “Does God throw dice?” the Judeo-Christian answer is not, as so many have wrongly supposed, a denial, but a very positive affirmative. For only in a world in which the laws of nature govern events in accordance with the casting of dice can a Biblical view of a world whose history is responsive to God's will prevail.”
-William Pollard PhD, “Chance and Providence: God's Action in a World Governed by Scientific Law”, pg. 35, pg. 97
Nancey Murphy PhD, Theologian, is Professor of Christian Philosophy at the Fuller Theological Seminary. She also serves as an editorial advisor for Theology and Science, Theology Today, and Christianity Today. She is the author of “Divine Action In The Natural Order”.
“The second strategy for giving an account of the locus of divine action explores quantum physics and seeks to give an account of God's action throughout the natural and human world by means of action at the quantum level (either alone or in conjunction with top-down action). My proposal is motivated theologically. If God is immanent in and acting in all creatures, then necessarily God is acting at the quantum level. Emphasis on this fact has the advantage of sidestepping the problem of interventionism: the laws of quantum mechanics are only statistical and therefore not subject to violation. If, as most interpreters conclude, events at this level are genuinely indeterminate, then there need be no competition between divine action and physical causation. It is possible from a theistic perspective to interpret current physics as saying that the natural world is intrinsically incomplete and open to divine action at its most basic level .”
-Nancey Murphy PhD, Dive Action In The Natural Order, pg. 131
In other words, God is in control and constantly interacting with the world at a quantum level. Where scientists see randomness and probabilities, they are seeing God determine how the dice fall, all the time, in quantum mechanics. The Bible may also present an argument of God controlling the “quantum dice” in Col 1:16-17, referring to Jesus Christ,
“For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. ”
The word here for “consist” is “synistemi” (4921) and it means, “to consist of or be composed of, to cohere, put together, hold together or band together”.
According to subatomic physics, it is the quantum force particles of bosons, and gluons that hold together atoms, and particles like photons and electrons that hold together different atoms. As such, this verse in the Bible could be referring to, that it is by God's control over the “quantum dice” that makes these particles we are composed of to hold together. As such, by His actions all things hold together or “by Him all things consist”.
Assuming it is true that God does allow randomness at a quantum level of physics, but also constantly controls the outcome of that randomness, besides “upholding all things”, like the universe, “by the word of His power” (Heb 1:3), is there another possible reason for God creating the universe to be this way? Could it relate to miracles, signs and wonders? This could very well be the case.
Not only does quantum physics allow for existing particles that we can observe in experiment to act in random ways, but it also allows for particles and antiparticles (antimatter) to pop in and out of existence, seemingly randomly. These particles usually only exist for a very short time, and are called “virtual particles”.
“Down at the very tiniest length scale and trillions of times smaller than atoms, is what is known as the Planck scale where the concept of length loses its meaning and quantum uncertainty rules. At this level all known laws of physics break down and even space and time become nebulous concepts. Any and all conceivable distortions of spacetime will be popping in and out of existence in a random and chaotic dance which is going on all the time everywhere in the universe. Terms such as “quantum fluctuations” and the “quantum foam” which are used to describe this chaotic activity certainly do not do it justice.”
-Jim Al-Khalili PhD, Black Holes, Wormholes, and Time Machines, pg. 207
PhD in Theoretical Nuclear Physics, theoretical physicist at the University of Surrey
The existence of these seemingly random particles does not violate the laws of physics, especially the Law of Conservation of Energy:
“Where did all these particles come from? The answer is that relativity and quantum mechanics allow matter to be created out of energy in the form of particle/antiparticle pairs. And where did the energy come from to create this matter? The answer is that it was borrowed from the gravitational energy of the universe. The universe has an enormous debt of negative gravitational energy, which exactly balances the positive energy of the matter.”
-Stephen Hawking, PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg. 97
Virtual particles have been shown, through experiments, to exist, as seen in the Lamb shift and the Casimir Effect.
“These particles are called virtual because, unlike “real” particles, they cannot be observed directly with a particle detector. Their indirect effects can nonetheless be measured, and their existence has been confirmed by a small shift (the “Lamb shift”) they produce in the spectrum of light from excited hydrogen atoms.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg 107
Regarding the Casimir Effect,
“As we saw in Chapter 7, even what we think of as “empty” space is filled with pairs of virtual particles and antiparticles that appear together, move apart, and come back together and annihilate each other. Now, suppose one has two metal plates a short distance apart. The plates will act like mirrors for the virtual photons or particles of light. In fact they will form a cavity between them, a bit like an organ pipe that will resonate only at certain notes. This means that virtual photons can occur in the space between the plates only if their wavelengths (the distance between the crest of one wave and the next) fit a whole number of times into the gap between the plates. If the width of a cavity is a whole number of wavelengths plus a fraction of a wavelength, then after some reflections backward and forward between the plates, the crests of one wave with coincide with the troughs of another and the waves will cancel out.
Because the virtual photons between the plates can have only the resonant wavelengths, there will be slightly fewer of them than in the region outside the plates where virtual photons can have any wavelength. Thus there will be slightly fewer virtual photons hitting the inside surfaces of the plates than the outside surfaces. One would therefore expect a force on the plates, pushing them toward each other . This force has actually been detected and has the predicted value. Thus we have experimental evidence that virtual particles exist and have real effects.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Illustrated Brief History of Time, pgs. 204-206
Virtual particles can include all types of particles, including photons, electrons, gluons, bosons, and quarks. According to physicists, under certain conditions in the universe, virtual particles can exist for longer periods of time and therefore become “real” particles. This particular example relates to conditions of space near a black hole, but in principle this shows that science does generally allow for the possibility of virtual particles popping into existence and becoming real particles.
“We can understand this in the following way: what we think of as “empty” space cannot be completely empty because that would mean that all the fields, such as the gravitational and electromagnetic fields, would have to be exactly zero. However, the value of a field and its rate of change with time are like the position and velocity of a particle: the uncertainty principle implies that the more accurately one knows one of these quantities, the less accurately one can know the other. So in empty space the field cannot be fixed at exactly zero, because then it would have both a precise value (zero) and a precise rate of change (also zero). There must be a certain minimum amount of uncertainty, or quantum fluctuations, in the value of the field. One can think of these fluctuations as pairs of particle of light or gravity that appear together at some time, move apart, and then come together again and annihilate each other. These particles are virtual particles like carry the gravitational force of the sun: unlike real particles, they cannot be observed directly with a particle detector. However, their indirect effects, such as small changes in the electron orbits in atoms, can be measured and agree with the theoretical predictions to a remarkable degree of accuracy. The uncertainty principle also predicts that there will be similar virtual pairs of matter particles, such as electrons or quarks . In this case, however, one member of the pair will be a particle, and the other an antiparticle (the antiparticles of light and gravity are the same as the particles).
Because energy cannot be created out of nothing, one of the partners in a particle/antiparticle pair will have positive energy, and the other partner negative energy. The one with negative energy is condemned to be a short-lived virtual particle because real particles always have positive energy in normal situations. It must therefore seek out its partner and annihilate with it. However, a real particle close to a massive body has less energy than if it were far away, because it would take energy to lift it far away against the gravitational attraction of the body. Normally, the energy of the particle is still positive, but the gravitational field inside a black hole is so strong that even a real particle can have negative energy there. It is therefore possible, if a black hole is present, for the virtual particle with negative energy to fall into the black hole and become a real particle or antiparticle . In this case it no longer has to annihilate with its partner. Its forsaken partner may fall into the black hole as well. Or, having positive energy, it might also escape from the vicinity of the black hole as a real particle or antiparticle . To an observer at a distance, it will appear to have been emitted from the black hole.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, The Illustrated Brief History of Time, Pgs. 134-137
According to science it is possible that physical quantum particles can randomly pop into existence seemingly out of nowhere. If God is controlling the “quantum dice”, then this means God could cause these subatomic quantum particles to come into existence out of nowhere. This does not contradict the laws of physics in any way. Rather the laws of physics and modern science make clear that subatomic quantum particles popping into existence from out of nowhere is the normal state of the universe, which science has confirmed. And it is entirely possible for this randomness to be controlled by God controlling the “quantum dice”; and the quantum randomness seen has no explanation. Metaphorically speaking, this is a huge hole in the wall of science, which allows for the hand of God to come through into the physical universe, without in any way contradicting science or the known laws of physics. This shows that science actually allows for miracles and the miraculous done by God, without it in any way conflicting with Science or Modern Physics.
Modern Physics teaches that elementary particles, of all kinds, can and do randomly pop in and out of existence. This includes photons, which are particles of light. This also includes gravitons, which are theoretical and theoretically instrumental in gravity, as well as gluons, bosons and other force carrying particles.
Some force carrying particles are what hold quarks together to form neutrons and protons, and other force particles hold together atoms. All of these particles can pop into existence out of nowhere, seemingly randomly, the universe allows for this, and the universe was created by God intentionally to be the way it is.
What are quarks and electrons? They are the particles that are the building blocks of atoms.
Different types of atoms make up all of the elements of matter, as seen in the periodic table of the elements.
Atoms are the building blocks of all the matter we see, and our bodies are made of atoms.
So assuming God, who is omnipotent, one way or another controlled the randomness of the quantum world… then this means that God could choose to have a large number of quarks, gluons, electrons, etc. pop into existence very quickly, and assemble into atoms. God could also do this in such a way that many atoms were formed, and would assemble into much larger objects, even objects large enough that we could see them.
This might include things like oil and grain popping into existence out of nowhere:
1 Kings 17:8-16
And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee. So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink. And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand. And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse : and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die. And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son. For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth. And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days. And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah .
God provided for 3 years oil and grain, though the land was in a drought with famine. This oil and grain appeared seemingly out of thin air. But another way to put it might be that it appeared out of “seemingly random quantum foam”. And there are many miracles, signs, and wonders in the Bible, done by God, which are similar to this, such as Jesus Christ feeding the multitudes of thousands from a couple fish and a few loaves of bread.
Also, there are miraculous healings mentioned many times in the Bible. According to science, our bodies are made up of molecules of atoms, which are made from quarks and electrons and such. Consider the cases of sight being restored to the blind, the healing of the disfigured hand, the healing of lepers, and the healing of all manner of sicknesses; miracles done by Jesus Christ. Control over the “quantum dice” would be one way to explain how sick flesh was instantaneously changed into healthy flesh.
And so this is one way to describe, in modern physics concepts, how God does miracles, signs, and wonders. Though God does do them, whether control of the “quantum dice” of quantum physics is truly and specifically how, or not.
But the Bible also says that Holy angels, and Fallen angels, also work miracles, signs and wonders. (Acts 2:22, 5:12, 2 Peter 2:11, Heb 2:4, Matt 24:24, 2 Thes 2:9, Rev 13:2, 14, 16:14) So it could be an accurate description to say that how fallen angels also do miracles, signs, and wonders is because they too somehow have control over the “quantum dice”, though definitely on a more limited scale than God does.
The Bible teaches that God is everywhere in the universe, and there is nowhere that He is not. Whereas fallen angels have a set, limited, location for their spirit body, and are only in one place at a time, much like mankind. Under this line of reasoning, God has power, and “quantum power” over everywhere in the universe, but fallen angels only have power or “quantum power” in their immediate location. Also, God has power over the fallen angels' spirit bodies themselves, as their bodies are part of the creation, whereas fallen angels have no such power over God.
It does make some analogous sense that all angels would have powers like God, but limited, for the Bible several times in the Old Testament calls angels the “sons of God”. (Gen 6, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Psalm 29:1, 89:6)
It may be that the extra-dimensionality of angels is what would make possible them having limited control over the “quantum dice” in their immediate location.
“Today, however, physicists are following a different trail-the one leading to superstring theory. Unlike previous proposals, it has survived every blistering mathematical challenge ever hurled at it. Not surprisingly, the theory is a radical-some might say crazy-departure from the past, being based on tiny strings vibrating in 10-dimensional space-time… In superstring theory, the subatomic particles we see in nature are nothing more than different resonances of the vibrating superstrings, in the same way that different musical notes emanate from the different modes of vibration of a violin string.”
-Michio Kaku PhD, “Into the Eleventh Dimension”, author of Hyperspace: A Scientific Odyssey through the 10th Dimension, Oxford University Press.
According to String Theory, particles in the 4-dimenional space-time we observe, are the result of vibrations of 1 dimensional strings that exist in an additional 6-7 dimensions, in the scientific sense of the word which (comes to10-11 dimensions total).
As such, speaking generally according to science in principle, it is possible that the extra-dimensionality of angels would allow for their altering of particles in our 4 dimensional world, on the subatomic quantum level. As such, their extra-dimensionality, in the spiritual realm, may be tied directly to their ability to work “miracles, signs, and wonders”, possibly through being able to determine how the “quantum dice” fall (on a limited scale in their immediate locality).
To illustrate, imagine that sitting on a table, is a cup. This cup has 3 spatial dimensions, and as the second pass, it moves through the 4 th dimension of time. Now, in the exact same location as the cup, would be 6-7 invisible dimensions that you can't see. And that is because these invisible 6-7 dimensions intersect the 4 dimensions we know at every point. These 6-7 dimensions are most definitely not somewhere else, but are in the same place we are, but invisible. Now, if these 6-7 extra dimensions correspond to the invisible spiritual realm that the Bible teaches, then an angel who has a spirit body would have an invisible spirit body comprised of the stuff of these 6-7 extra dimensions. And such an invisible angel could choose to effect the 6-7 extra dimensions where the cup is located so as to knock the cup over.
In other words, fallen angels have spirit bodies in the invisible spiritual realm. If the spiritual realm is composed of these extra 6-7 dimensions, then the spirit bodies of the fallen angels are composed of the spiritual realm, these extra 6-7 dimensions. Just as the invisible spiritual realm is all around us, so also could be these 6-7 extra dimensions. According to String Theory (just a theory) what we observe as an effect in our 3 spatial dimensions is caused by what happens in the 6-7 invisible extra dimensions. This means that an extra-dimensional angel could use their extra-dimensional spirit body in the 6-7 extra dimensions, to have the effect of changing things in the physical 3 dimensions we perceive. And in this, fallen angels would also have limited control over how the “quantum dice” fall, but only in a very limited location where they are present. As the invisible realm is all around us (or these extra dimensions would be also) a fallen angel can only effect changes in the immediate locality around them, in the location of their spirit body.
And so this shows how Modern Physics also allows for angels or fallen angels to work miracles (in a limited locality) along the same lines as how Modern Physics allows for God to work miracles. And so angels can also work miracles and do the miraculous, without violating and laws of Modern Physics or science. Rather, Modern Physics and Science totally allows for the existence of angels, their spirit bodies, the invisible spiritual realm, and the miraculous powers of angels as described in the Bible.
When it comes to Holy angels or fallen angels, the Bible describes that they can cause dreams and Visions, as well as causing the physically miraculous or miracles.
In the case of fallen angels, they cause False Visions, which can seem entirely physically real to a victim, and also dreams. Beyond this fallen angels can cause physical injury, and other sorts of physical manifestations, like objects moving, or recording film being altered, etc. These physical manifestations would be considered as false signs, false miracles, and false wonders, Biblically speaking.
I think that fallen angels being able to control (in their immediate locality) how the “quantum dice” fall, would work as a way to explain Physical manfestations very easily, both with visible angels materializing, or seeing the physical effects of invisible angels, including the physical aspects of Visions.
Excepting time perception manipulation, I also think this “quantum dice” idea explains all varieties and aspects of Visions quite well, and also dreams. This is because the human brain also can experience the effects of a fallen angel being able to control the “quantum dice” (in a limited localized way).
“The human brain, however, is also subject to the uncertainty principle. Thus, there is an element of the randomness associated with quantum mechanics in human behavior. But the energies involved in the brain are low, so quantum mechanical uncertainty is only a small effect.”
-Stephen Hawking PhD, Black Holes and Baby Universes, Pg. 133
Although the effect of quantum mechanical uncertainty in the brain is normally small, if fallen angels can determine how the “quantum dice” fall, then a fallen angel could make the effect quite large and noticeable.
Regarding False Visions, all of our physical senses are dependant on how our brain interprets them. By fallen angels generating electrical impulses in the brain, and such things like that, fallen angels would be able to make us “see” things that are not actually in front of our eyes, and “hear” things that are not there to make any sound, “feel” things that are not touching our bodies, “smell” things not before our noses, and “taste” things that are not on our tongues. These things would seem completely real to all of the bodily senses. And the electrical impulses that are truly transmitting information about reality around us could also be blocked out by fallen angels, under this same ability. Or actual reality could be partially blocked. And either way, false electrical signals in the brain generated by fallen angels, through manipulation of the “quantum dice”, could cause a person to experience a False Vision that seemed entirely physically real, but was not.
A person could be caused to perceive something completely illusionary, by a fallen angel manipulating that person's brain, which is a person's gateway to physical perception. As such, an illusion could seem completely physically real to all of the bodily senses, so much so as to be completely indistinguishable from reality to the person. This manipulation of the senses through manipulation of the brain is very likely what happens in False Vision (or in Holy angelic true Visions). Fallen angels could cause this to happen to more than one person at a time, strengthening the deception. And also under the same limited control over the “quantum dice”, fallen angels could cause physical manifestations, even running concurrently with a Vision which seems real. This sort of deception can be very powerful. Dreams could be explained much in the same way, but the same sort of thing occurring while the person is asleep and dreaming.
Besides all of this, there is one more thing which is miraculous that fallen angels do, which modern science allows for in a specific way. That is time perception manipulation.
Chapitre 9: Physique Moderne et les capacités de Fallen Angels
Manipulation perception du temps
Luc 04:05 "Et le diable, lui prenant sur une haute montagne, montra à lui tous les royaumes du monde dans un moment de temps."
Ce cas de risque de Satan causant Jésus-Christ pour avoir une vision, comme mentionné dans la Bible, était probablement au moins heures dans moins de 1 seconde.
Regardons quelques exemples de manipulation de la perception du temps mentionné précédemment:
Le cas de Robert était environ 2 heures en 1 minute environ.
Le cas Valdes a été d'environ 5 jours en 15 minutes.
Le cas de Michael a été d'environ 20 ans dans environ 7 jours.
Dans un rapport de seconde à seconde, cela équivaut à:
Robert: 7200 secondes en 60 secondes,
soit un ratio de 120 secondes en 1 seconde
Valdes: 432000 secondes en 900 secondes,
ratio of 480 seconds in 1 second
Michael: 630.720.000 secondes de 604800 secondes,
ratio de 1043 secondes en 1 seconde
Ce que nous allons couvrir la prochaine est le temps de perception des capacités de manipulation des anges déchus, comme on le voit dans les anges tombés. Je vais d'abord être couvrant les façons de manipulation perception du temps ne peut pas être expliqué sous la Science Moderne, avant d'entrer dans la façon dont elle peut être expliquée, et physique moderne le permet.
Tout d'abord, il est nécessaire de garder à l'esprit que les souvenirs de ces expériences sont d'une réelle interaction entre l'abducté, et la vision causée par l'ange déchu, dans laquelle l'abducté peut faire des choix si l'expérience est en cours.
Je voudrais d'abord faire remarquer que les expériences rappeler fausse vision ne sont pas des souvenirs qui sont prêtes et téléchargé comme un fichier dans le cerveau de l'abducté. Plutôt, parce que l'abducté participe activement à la prise de décision lors de la vision, l'expérience est stockée comme les événements ont lieu, au fil du temps. In short, what abductees usually experience is very different than what some people refer to as “false memories”. Cela peut être assez soutenue en ce sens qu'il ya des cas où une personne enlevée a connu quelques heures de dollars d'enlèvement, a appelé à Jésus pour les aider, l'expérience a brusquement cessé, et l'abducté a constaté que seulement quelques minutes s'étaient écoulées depuis que l'expérience avait commencé, pas en heures. Comme Satan ne fonctionne pas contre Satan, un ange déchu ne serait pas une histoire de téléchargement de la mémoire ready-made qui incluait l'expérience d'enlèvement arrêt dans le nom et l'autorité de Jésus-Christ.
Donc cela montre que les abductés sont capables de prendre des décisions au cours de l'expérience vision fausse. Il s'agit d'une expérience réelle, qui a lieu au cours de la progression graduelle de l'expérience, et il progresse avec le temps qui passe. Il est rapporté que l'écoulement du temps semble normal de personnes enlevées au cours de ces expériences, avec le sentiment véritable expérience à tous les sens corporels.
Comme le cerveau de la victime d'une fausse vision est une partie intégrante de la façon dont les anges déchus réaliser ces visions et les souvenirs de ces attaques sont stockées dans le cerveau, alors l'aspect manipulation de temps de perception de ces attaques doivent être explicables de façon qui est conforme et ne pas entrer en conflit avec le cerveau humain physique et comment il fonctionne. Et aucune explication de la manipulation perception du temps doit être limité et confiné à des explications qui ne sont pas en conflit avec la science du cerveau humain.
En examinant cette plus loin, je vais garder pertinent et répandue dans cette explication qu'il a été démontré dans de fausses visions que la manipulation perception du temps est présent alors que le corps de l'abducté ne va nulle part. Ceci est important. I would assert that any solution that would work to explain time perception manipulation in this scenario would also work in all other scenarios, though the opposite would not be true. La réponse la plus simple peut être trouvée pour expliquer le scénario le plus restrictif en difficulté d'une explication scientifique de l'environnement.
Si l'on devait supposer que la manipulation perception du temps implique un compactage ou compression des expériences approfondies dans un court laps de temps, alors il faudrait pour cela le cerveau humain à traiter en une seconde, quelque part d'une centaine à une information mille fois plus que le cerveau traite habituellement en une seconde. Le cerveau traite l'information par l'activité des neurones.
La seule information que j'ai pu trouver sur les neurones tirer plus rapidement que la normale ont été les études sur les drogues psychoactives, en particulier l'héroïne. Comme les gens attaqués par les anges déchus que la manipulation la perception expérience du temps ne font pas état connaît une héroïne comme les graves sensation, cette sert de preuve expérimentale que neuronique trop rapide de tir dans le passage normal du temps de travail ne sera pas à expliquer cette manipulation perception du temps.
Et en tant que telle, la manipulation perception du temps n'implique pas un compactage ou compression des expériences approfondies dans un court laps de temps. La seule autre option est que ces expériences font réellement prendre autant de temps que subjectivement perçue par la personne ayant une vision angélique tombé, si le passage du temps objectif pour le reste du monde est beaucoup plus courte.
Un exemple majeur de ce qui peut être vu dans la théorie de la relativité générale. Selon la relativité, peu importe à quelle vitesse se déplace un personne, le temps est perçu pour passer à la même vitesse. Cependant, moins de temps sera relativement passer pour une personne accélérée que pour une personne (relativement) fixes. Pourtant, soit personne se sentira le temps qui passe au même rythme. On pourrait faire valoir un point de vue théologique que Dieu a conçu le cerveau humain à besoin d'un flux constant de temps réel, afin de fonctionner correctement, et a conçu un univers dans lequel le passage du temps resterait constante, peu importe à quelle vitesse un humain pourrait s'accélérer.
Parce que le cerveau de la personne est impliquée dans le processus d'une vision, mais leur corps ne va nulle part, de nombreux concepts de physique théorique portant sur le temps de travail ne serait pas à expliquer comment le cerveau peut éprouver plus de temps tandis que le corps ressent moins de temps.
Pourriez relativité générale, et la dilatation du temps d'expliquer comment cela fonctionne? Relativistic Time Dilation would not work, because it would require the body to feel acceleration (or its gravitational equivalent) in comparison to the brain, at over 99% the speed of light. This speed would be necessary to produce a 100 or 1000 seconds to 1 second ratio. Ce n'est pas ce qui est rapporté par des témoins de la personne sous le corps de l'attaque, que vois qu'il ne va nulle part, ni le récit biblique que pendant Visions gens ne vont pas n'importe où. Donc, ce ne peut pas être le cas, à part le fait qu'une telle chose serait probablement tuer la personne.
Pouvez-temps de voyage gagné par les voyages vers l'avenir, et puis le passé, expliquent ce temps supplémentaire perçu?
There is a type of theoretical wormhole, called a CTC, which was once theorized to be able to be used in this way, if many detailed criteria were met. Mais, selon le consensus actuel des scientifiques, une CCT ne fonctionnerait pas pour voyager dans le temps vers le futur ou le passé. Cette manière spécifique impliquerait le déplacement d'un cerveau à un autre emplacement dans l'espace-temps 4D, les dépenses d'un montant réel de temps dans cet endroit d'autres déplaçant vers l'avenir, et puis le cerveau voyager dans le temps au même moment laissé. Même si cela pourrait fonctionner sans tuer la personne, un trou de ver de la CCT ne serait toujours pas travailler pour retourner le cerveau pour le passé, comme un CTC ne fonctionne pas pour voyager dans le temps vers le passé ou futur. Un trou de ver de la CCT ne fonctionne pas pour voyager dans le temps vers le futur et le passé pour un cerveau, ou une personne, ou même pour une boule de bowling, comme ils ne peuvent pas être utilisés pour voyager dans le temps en général.
Kip Thorne et Stephen Hawking avait un débat en cours depuis environ 20 ans sur le sujet des voyages dans le temps dans le passé, en utilisant un trou de ver de la CCT pour les voyages dans le temps. Le débat, basé sur leurs livres, semble être devenu réglé, avec Thorne (pro-possibilité de voyager dans le temps) à venir se mettre d'accord avec Hawking (anti-possibilité de voyager dans le temps). Voici quelques faits saillants:
“Perhaps fortunately for our survival (and that of our mothers), it seems that the laws of physics do not allow such time travel. There seems to be a Chronology Protection Agency that makes the world safe for historians by preventing travel into the past. Ce qui semble se produire est que les effets du principe d'incertitude serait la cause qu'il y ait une grande quantité de radiations si l'on a voyagé dans le passé. Ce rayonnement serait soit la chaîne espace-temps, si bien qu'il ne serait pas possible de remonter dans le temps, ou il ferait l'espace-temps à venir à une fin en une singularité comme le big bang et le big crunch. De toute façon, notre passé serait à l'abri de personnes mal intentionnés. L'hypothèse de la protection de chronologie est soutenu par certains calculs récents que moi et d'autres personnes l'ont fait. Mais la meilleure preuve que nous avons voyage dans le temps n'est pas possible, et ne sera jamais, c'est que nous n'avons pas été envahis par des hordes de touristes de l'avenir. "
-Stephen Hawking, PhD, Black Holes and Baby Univers PG. 154 (1994)
«Traduire en arrière du point de vue d'un observateur au repos dans le trou de ver (l'observateur que Kim et moi s'était appuyé sur), la conjecture de Hawking signifiait que le seuil de gravité quantique se produit 10 ^ -95 secondes avant que le trou de ver devient une machine de temps, et non pas 10 ^ -43 secondes - et par là, selon nos calculs, le faisceau sous vide fluctuational est assez fort, mais juste à peine si, qu'il pourrait en effet détruire le trou de ver ".
Kip S. Thorne-doctorat, Black Holes and Temps Chaînes pg. 520 (1994)
«Suspects Hawking que les faisceaux croissant de fluctuations du vide est la façon naturelle de faire respecter la protection chronologie: Quand on essaie de faire une machine de temps, et peu importe ce genre de dispositif, on utilise dans sa tentative (un trou de ver, un cylindre tournant, un« cosmique chaîne ", ou autre), juste avant son périphérique devient une machine de temps, un faisceau de fluctuations du vide va circuler à travers le dispositif et de le détruire. Hawking semble prêt à parier beaucoup sur ce résultat. Je ne suis pas prêt à prendre de l'autre côté dans un tel pari. Je ne aiment prendre des paris avec Hawking, mais seuls les paris que j'ai une chance raisonnable de gagner. My strong gut feeling is that I would lose this one. Mes propres calculs avec Kim, et les calculs non publiés qui Eanna Flanagan (un de mes étudiants) a fait plus récemment, me portent à croire que Hawking est susceptible d'être droite. Chaque machine du temps est susceptible de s'auto-détruire (par des moyens de faire circuler les fluctuations du vide), au moment on essaie de l'activer. "
Kip S. Thorne-doctorat, Black Holes and Temps Chaînes pg. 521 (1994)
Ce fut tout à partir de 1994, mais une citation plus récente de 2001 montre la question a généralement été réglées:
«... Puisque la somme par rapport à l'histoire des calculs dans ces milieux sont mathématiquement équivalentes, on peut conclure que la probabilité de ces milieux tend vers zéro à l'approche de la déformation nécessaire pour les boucles du temps. En d'autres termes, la probabilité d'avoir de déformation suffisante pour une machine de temps est égal à zéro. This supports what I have called the Chronology Protection Conjecture: that the laws of physics conspire to prevent time travel by macroscopic objects .
Bien que les boucles de temps sont autorisés par la somme sur les histoires, les probabilités sont extrêmement faibles. Based on the duality arguments I mentioned earlier, I estimate the probability that Kip Thorne could go back and kill his grandfather as less than one in ten with a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion zeroes after it… As gambling men, Kip and I would bet on odds like that. The trouble is, we can't bet each other because we are now both on the same side .”
-Stephen Hawking, PhD, L'Univers dans une coquille de noix, pgs. 152-153 (2001)
Un problème avec voyage dans le temps vers le passé entre les deux emplacements dans l'espace-temps 4D, est que, les choses simplement, les fluctuations du vide électromagnétiques seraient construire voyageant dans une boucle à partir du présent vers le passé (et futur), une boucle infinie, et cela détruirait toute voie de l'actuel au passé (ou futur). Stephen Hawking et Kip Thorne l'avons dit, des trous de ver CCT ne fonctionne pas pour voyager dans le temps.
Comme tel, ce n'est pas non plus une possibilité pour la manipulation de la perception du temps lors d'une attaque ange déchu, et il peut sommairement être conclu que les cerveaux des gens ne vont pas n'importe où, ou voyager dans le temps. Time gained by traveling to the future, and then the past, is not allowed by physics in any way that would fit this time perception manipulation scenario seen in a fallen angelic Vision.
Biblically, this can be understood in that God created the universe so as to not allow time travel into the past. Dieu contrôle les deux côtés du trou de ver, et c'est Dieu qui le rendrait donc les fluctuations du vide électromagnétique dans une boucle de la bouche trou de ver serait de détruire le trou de ver avant qu'il ne pourrait permettre à tous les déplacements de temps possible.
Dieu a créé le temps, comme l'a fait Jésus-Christ, que toutes choses ont été créées par Lui.
Jésus-Christ dit dans Ap 22:13, "Je suis l'Alpha et l'Oméga, le Premier et le Dernier, le Commencement et la Fin."
En tant que Dieu n'a autorité complète au fil du temps, et ne permet tout simplement pas voyager dans le temps vers le passé ou l'avenir et le passé de nouveau.
Aucune de ces théories mentionnées fonctionnera comme une explication pour la manipulation de la perception du temps causées par les anges déchus au cours de fausses visions. Alors ce qui se passe?
Le verset clé est Luc 04:05: «Et le diable, lui prenant sur une haute montagne, montra à lui tous les royaumes du monde dans un moment de temps."
Ce verset ne décrit pas le temps de voyage vers le passé. En revanche, ce verset décrit une longue période de temps qui passe pendant une seconde ou moins d'une seconde. Ou une autre façon de dire cela, c'est que peu de temps supplémentaire a été acquise par perceptuel de la personne, plus que le passage objective du temps que Dieu controls.This verset décrit une longue période de temps qui passe pendant une seconde ou moins d'une seconde. Ou une autre façon de dire cela, c'est que peu de temps supplémentaire a été acquise par perceptuel de la personne, plus que le passage objective du temps que Dieu contrôle. Alors, comment un ange déchu faire cela? Comment cela pourrait-il travailler?
La réponse est qu'il n'ya tout simplement plus à la dimension du temps que nous pensons normalement il y être. Je crois que la Bible établit la préséance pour ce concept, et voilà comment je interpréter Long Day Josué.
Ensuite parla à Josué de l'Éternel, le jour où l'Éternel livra les Amoréens aux enfants d'Israël, et il a dit à la vue d'Israël: Soleil, arrête-toi sur Gabaon, et toi, lune, dans la vallée d'Ajalon. Et le soleil s'arrêta, et la lune suspendit, jusqu'à ce que le peuple se venge de ses ennemis. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? Alors le soleil s'arrêta au milieu du ciel, et ne se hâta point de descendre environ une journée entière. Et il n'y avait pas un jour comme ça avant lui ou après lui, que l'Eternel écouta la voix d'un homme: car l'Éternel combattait pour Israël.
J'ai lu plusieurs théories pour expliquer comment cela a fonctionné, mais voici la mienne:
Lorsque Dieu fit la dimension du temps, il fait d'avoir à la fois son débit en longueur, que nous percevons normalement, et dessiner une ligne, mais aussi pour avoir une largeur d'elle, à angle droit à sa longueur. This width is normally small and tight like a string. Mais la largeur du temps est comme un matériau élastique, comme un élastique, et si Dieu veut, Dieu peut étirer la largeur du temps. La largeur du temps n'est pas affecté par les 3 dimensions de l'espace, ou des choses comme la gravité ou la vitesse. La longueur de temps est ce qui est mentionné dans "l'espace-temps", mais la largeur de temps existe pas affecté par les choses qui affectent normalement la longueur de temps. En d'autres termes, la largeur de temps fonctionne comme une dimension à la 2 ème fois.
Dans Long Day Josué, il a été la largeur du temps que Dieu tendu, autour de la surface de la terre, et pour le peuple sur la terre. En tant que tel le peuple sur terre expérimentés passage longtemps dans la largeur du temps, durant ce qui fut un bref moment dans le temps.
Je crois que, conformément à la physique cela est possible. Bien que le concept du temps ayant une dimension 2 ème de "largeur" semble être à ses débuts, il ya quelques informations à trouver sur elle. Le concept qui met en parallèle la "largeur" de temps en physique théorique moderne est le concept de «temps imaginaire»:
“…One of these is that it is easier to do the sum if one deals with histories in what is called imaginary time rather than in ordinary, real time. Imaginary time is a difficult concept to grasp, and it is probably the one that has caused the greatest problems for the readers of my book. I have also been criticized fiercely by philosophers for using imaginary time. How can imaginary time have anything to do with the real universe?
I think these philosophers have not learned the lessons of history. Il était autrefois considéré comme évident que la terre était plate et que le soleil a fait le tour de la terre, et pourtant depuis l'époque de Copernic et Galilée, nous avons eu à s'adapter à l'idée que la terre est ronde et qu'elle tourne autour du soleil. De même, il a longtemps été évident que le temps passait pour le même taux pour tous les observateurs, mais depuis Einstein, nous avons dû accepter que le temps passe à des tarifs différents pour les différents observateurs. It also seemed obvious that the universe had a unique history, yet since the discovery of quantum mechanics, we have had to consider the universe as having every possible history. I want to suggest that the idea of imaginary time is something that we will also have to come to accept. C'est un saut intellectuel du même ordre que de croire que le monde est rond. I think that imaginary time will come to seem as natural as a round earth does now. There are not many Flat Earthers left in the educated world.”
-Stephen Hawking, Black Holes and Baby Universe, pg. 81-82
Imaginary time is already a commonplace of science fiction. Mais il est plus que la science-fiction ou d'une astuce mathématique. C'est quelque chose qui façonne l'univers dans lequel nous vivons
-Stephen Hawking, Trous noirs et des univers de bébé, pg. 83
Bien qu'il soit un concept plus récent, il semble que les formes imaginaires du temps de l'univers dans lequel nous vivons Selon la physique, quel est-il parfait?
“ You can think of ordinary, real time as a horizontal line, going from left to right. Premiers temps sont sur la gauche, et les temps de retard sont sur la droite. Mais vous pouvez aussi envisager une autre direction du temps, de haut en bas de la page. C'est la direction que l'on appelle l'imaginaire du temps, à angle droit en temps réel.
Quel est le point d'introduire la notion de temps imaginaire? Pourquoi pas un seul juste coller à l'ordinaire, en temps réel que nous comprenions? La raison est que, comme indiqué précédemment, la matière et l'énergie ont tendance à faire de l'espace-temps courbe sur elle-même. Dans le sens en temps réel, ce qui conduit inévitablement à des singularités, des lieux où l'espace-temps arrive à son terme. At the singularities, the equations of physics cannot be defined; thus one cannot predict what will happen. But the imaginary time direction is at right angles to real time. This means that it behaves in a similar way to the three directions that correspond to moving in space. La courbure de l'espace-temps causé par la matière dans l'univers peut alors conduire à l'espace en trois directions et la direction du temps imaginaires réunion autour de l'arrière. They would form a closed surface, like the surface of the earth. The space directions and imaginary time would form a space-time that was closed in on itself, without boundaries or edges. It wouldn't have any point that could be called a beginning or end, any more than the surface of the earth has a beginning or end. ”
-Stephen Hawking, PhD, Black Holes and Univers Bébé, Pg 82
"Quand on a essayé d'unifier la gravité avec la mécanique quantique, il fallait introduire l'idée de« imaginaire »du temps. Temps imaginaire est indiscernable de directions dans l'espace. If one can go north, one can turn around and head south; equally, if one can go forward in imaginary time, one out to be able to turn round and go backward. This means that there can be no important difference between the forward and backward directions of imaginary time. D'autre part, quand on regarde temps «réel», il ya une très grande différence entre les directions avant et arrière, comme nous le savons tous. "
-Stephen Hawking, PhD, L'histoire illustrée bref laps de temps, Pg 182
Temps imaginaire ne suit pas la direction vers l'avant du temps, mais les formes, au lieu d'une boucle fermée, dans laquelle il n'ya pas de distinguer l'avant ou vers l'arrière. Ce concept semble en parallèle une largeur extensible au temps très bien. Une personne qui a un temps imaginaire pourrait gagner du temps, passe dans une boucle fermée sur la largeur du temps, et de se retrouver là où ils ont commencé. Cela donnerait le temps d'être acquise, et expérimenté, par la personne, sans que personne se déplaçant en avant sur la longueur du temps, économiser un moment.
Could the science theory of Imaginary Time, or concept of a Width to Time, explain time perception manipulation in False Visions caused by fallen angels? ... Oui.
Comme je l'ai mentionné précédemment, que la Bible appelle les anges des «fils de Dieu» en plusieurs endroits, et cela peut concerner que les anges peuvent faire beaucoup de choses mêmes que Dieu peut faire, mais sur une base plus limitée et locale.
Par exemple, Dieu peut accomplir des miracles, signes et des prodiges, et Long Day Josué était un de ces événements miraculeux. Si cette analogie est vrai dans ce cas, comme il l'a dans d'autres cas, alors il serait logique que les anges déchus peuvent également être capable de s'étirer de la largeur de temps sur une base locale limitée. La longueur du temps de Dieu conserve toute autorité sur, et les anges déchus ne pouvez pas le voyage, ni l'étirer. Mais lors d'une vision du temps additionnel perçu serait d'anges déchus qui s'étend de la largeur de temps (pas la longueur de temps). Le temps est reçu comme une substance provenant de la largeur de temps, alors il n'y a presque rien gagné dans la durée sans cesse procéder de temps.
In fallen angelic Vision experiences, this could be visualized as a fallen angel stretching out the width of time around the brain of the person under attack. Le cerveau de l'individu ne quittent pas leur corps, ni avancer ou reculer le long de la longueur de temps. Mais la personne ne connaîtront un gain de temps de la période dans laquelle la largeur du temps est tendu autour de leur cerveau. This allows for a gain of perceived passage of time in a Vision, and would allow for a couple minutes to or even a couple hours to be perceived to pass in a moment, or second.
Ce scénario permettrait au cerveau de fonctionner à sa vitesse normale, avec les processus décisionnels à travailler comme ils le font normalement dans la connexion cerveau-esprit-âme-esprit. This would also allow for memories to be stored in the brain according to the normal way the brain functions.
Et voilà comment je voudrais expliquer les anges déchus de manipulation d'accomplir la perception du temps lors de Visions. Physique moderne semble peu permettre cela, surtout les anges pourraient être en mesure de le faire sous l'explication de si elles étaient extra-dimensionnelles de 6-7 des dimensions supplémentaires, ils pourraient être en mesure d'accéder à une deuxième dimension de temps aussi. En tout cas, cette explication de la largeur d'étirement du temps autour du cerveau de la personne travaillerait pour expliquer la manipulation perception du temps dans des visions.
Chapter 10 – Conclusions About Alien Abduction Experiences
I find a good analogy to conceptualize an extra dimension or dimensions is the green code in the Matrix movie. Like the agents in the Matrix movie, fallen angels can alter the “code” (“quantum dice”) to change what is there and alter the green code inside a person's mind, to change what the person perceives, through their brain.
As such I often try to represent the aspects of Fallen angelic False Visions using Matrix imagery. I use a red sphere of code to represent the invisible extra-dimensional or spiritual realm fallen angel (hallway is green, sphere is red).
As an example, this is a close up of a fallen-angel-caused vision of an “alien abduction”. Remember that the entire vision, all 3 aliens, and the setting, are all caused by 1 fallen angel. In this example, the red ball below contains a person standing in a room with 3 aliens, near a table, in a defensive posture against the aliens. That is how the person having this Vision experiences themself to be, and it seems real to them, though a Vision.
What this represents is that because of a fallen angel, the neurons in the person's brain are firing in such as way that their perceptions have been altered. As the person perceives their surroundings through their brain, which is the hub and gateway to all the physical senses, the true green reality has been blocked out either fully or partially, and the person perceives what is going on in the red sphere, which is the fallen angel attacking. Their brain being able to send signals of sensing the green reality around them has been blocked, and instead the deceptive red signals of the fallen angel is what is getting through to their brain. In the most extreme case, this can mean the person may perceive being touched, when they are not, smell things, see things, etc. which seem entirely physically real, but are not. These physical sensations can be of things which are external to the body, like the skin being cut, or internal to the body, such as John's stomach ache in Revelation, or any other sort of internal pain.
Because of the brain-sensory-hacking abilities of fallen angels seen in False Visions, which can seem completely physically real, it can be difficult to be able to tell with certainty that an actual pure physical manifestation of a fallen angel has occurred. Perhaps one example is that of fallen angels manifesting as UFOs (or whatever) in which pictures or video-recording have been taken.
It has to be kept in mind that when fallen angels do physically manifest, it may only be on a very limited and partial basis. One example is the audio-recordings made of ghosts, which if not hoaxes, only show a physical manifestation of the air vibrating so as to produce a recordable sound, or a physical manifestation to alter the recording device directly. That is all that could be proven to have occurred, at most. In fact in many cases, it is possible that a physical manifestation was limited to only a direct altering of the film or recording device, whether pictures of ghosts or UFOs, video film, or audio recordings, while people sometimes experience a False Vision in conjunction with this.
It is analogously similar to the scene in the movie The Matrix where Neo lays down on a table, and his brain is connected to a piece of hardware. He awakes to find himself standing in a white room, with Morpheus, and some chairs. He touches them and asks “Is this real?” and Morpheus comments to him on how what seems to be real is determined by electrical signals in the brain.
All of Neo's senses were working, it seemed real to him, yet it was not, and he wasn't really where he perceived himself to be: he was still on the table, where his brain and senses had been hacked into, blocking out reality, and replacing it with something that felt just as real, but was not. But, he really did have the experience.
This represents what the person perceives during the False Vision:
In this example, the person does not perceive the green reality, but only the red deception of the fallen angel. They may have a dream of being in this room with 3 aliens, or the Vision could seem to completely physically-real-seeming to the abductee, clear and focused as if they were fully awake. To an observer, the abductee might seem to be awake as normal, or in a trance/sleeping state, and the observer who is not under attack does not experience what the abductee is experiencing. It is possible for and observer to also get attacked, and perceive themself to be in the room with the abductee, but then the observer would be represented with the same representation as the abductee above. It is also possible that the abductee could be allowed to perceive the green reality to some extent or another, making the mental attack only partial, and not full, such as a sensation of their actual body (in green reality) getting tapped by an observer. Or as in some cases, the abductee might see a gray, which seems physically real, overlaid on top of the green reality of their actual home, bedroom, car, etc. This would perhaps be better represented by a partially transparent red circle, in which some green is seen through the red.
Also lumped into the aspects of False Visions are events involving time perception manipulation. As in the case of Robert, the explanation is that in the localized area of his brain, something like a second dimension of time, ever present but at right-angles to the normal flow of time, was utilized by the fallen angel, so that he experienced hours in minutes. Again, we know this is possible for fallen angels to utilize time this way to a limited localized extent, on a person, as the Bible records in Luke 4:5 in Satan showing Jesus all the kingdoms of the world in the time it takes to blink. (And that God did this to a worldwide extent as in Joshua 10 as the sun stood still in the sky all day, though it should be noted nothing in the Bible indicates that fallen angels can do this in a worldwide way, nor beyond the localized effect on a person during a False Vision.)
As to Physical Manifestation, the major example I have used here is of the Malmstrom incident, in which UFOs were seen, and physical documented malfunctions, without any other explanation to be had, coincided with the UFOs.
In the case of abductees, partial physical manifestations are documented with bruises and other injuries, etc., however typically the simpler explanation for much of the experience is that the rest of the experience was a False Vision. Most of the experience was a False Vision, which also had minor elements of physical manifestation. For instance, an abductee flown around Mars and back in a UFO, who returns with a bruise, should be assumed to have had a False Vision of going to Mars. This is because a bruise that is ascertained to have been received during the experience is only able to serve as evidence of a partial limited physical manifestation of a fallen angel, only enough to produce a bruise. Along the same lines, cuts or scars, whether external or internal (such as to the sexual organs) would need to be ascertained to have been received during the experience, and could only serve as evidence of a partial limited physical manifestation of a fallen angel, only enough to produce those cuts or scars. A bruise as the only evidence simply cannot prove someone physically went to Mars.
When it come to physical manifestation, it is clear from the Bible that fallen angels can cause illness, as is seen in the case of Job being given boils by Satan, and Herod (accepting worship as a “god”) being smitten with worms by an angel of God, which killed him. In this case of illness, once a fallen angel has caused an illness, it can remain for some time. One such illness that seems to be reported often among female abductees is that of “false pregnancy”, which is a verifiable medical condition. This medical condition also happens to many women who have never reported having any “alien abduction” experiences. The symptoms include extended abdomen, sensations of a baby moving inside, menstrual changes and lack of menses, verifiable hormonal changes, weight gain, tender breasts, morning sickness, cervical changes, and false labor. Research has shown 18% of cases of false pregnancy were at one time diagnosed as a pregnancy by a doctor. This is likely as doctors use hormone blood tests. In the normal population this is estimated to occur 1-6 times per every 22,000 births. False pregnancy happens to many women who are not abductees. As such it is possible either that a fallen angel could supernaturally trigger this illness in a woman's body by a partial physical manifestation targeted to cause this illness, or could simply be playing upon an illness of false pregnancy that would have occurred in that women anyway, due to some natural or unrelated reason for this medical problem. To date there is no verifiable proof of any real “alien” conception taking place, or resulting babies, to be found in abduction research. ( From Wikipedia, False Pregnancy ).
Here is a False Vision combined with some degree of Physical Manifestation:
And what the person perceives during the combination False Vision / physical attack:
The representations above are meant to convey that both a False Vision and a Physical Manifestation attack are taking place at the same time, to some extent or another. The brain is sensory-hacked so that the abductee may perceive themself to be in a new location, and whatever they experience can seem physically real. At the same time, the abductee may incur physical injuries from a level of Physical attack, in partial physical manifestation. While the abductee perceives themself to be aboard a spaceship, and bruised by an alien, the fallen angel manifests physically enough to cause a bruise on the body of the abductee in the corresponding area. In fact, the abductee is in green reality, still located in the same hallway, though having a False Vision of being somewhere else.
An especially deceptive aspect of a False Visions combined with a degree of Physical Manifestation, is when the attack begins with a real-feeling False Vision of the abductee's actual location. For instance, the abductee may actually be in their bedroom, and the Vision begins with the fallen angel having them perceive their bedroom, in a way that seems completely physically real. The real-seeming Vision then includes the abductee being moved from their bedroom to a spaceship, and the travel out of the house to the spaceship, even being floated through a wall or out a window, while the experience continues to be so physically-real-seeming that it is indistinguishable from reality to the abductee. The effect is seamless and flawless, and can convince the abductee that the travel and the location they went to were physically real locations that exist in objective reality. However, without actual objective proof of this, nothing can be confirmed. The simplest explanation is that the abductee had a False Vision which felt completely real, as their brain, through which they perceive their senses, was under attack and being manipulated in it's signals by a fallen angel.
Abductees have reported being taken to underground military bases, a hollow earth, other planets, going there on spaceships with advanced propulsion and anti-gravity systems, underground secret railway systems, and going through portals, wormholes, teleportation, etc. sometimes with corresponding technology seen. Yet, there is no objective evidence that the abductee actually went anywhere by these methods the abductee saw. Even in cases in which the abductee was observed to be missing, it is not ruled out that the witness was also being affected by a fallen angel with a False Vision, so designed that they would not be able to see the abductee, even if the abductee was right in front of them. This is the interpretation I have of the several cases of abduction accounts I referenced prior; the abductee did not go anywhere but was prevented from being seen.
Also, even if there were in fact secret military underground bases in existence, and there was verifiable proof that this was a true fact in actual reality, this does not mean that any abductees have actually been to these places. There is a verifiable planet Mars, but that this place exists does not mean that any abductee has actually been taken to the planet Mars. The government may have top-secret advanced military aircraft, but that does not mean that an abductee has actually ridden on any such aircraft. Without verifiable proof, an equally valid explanation is that the abductee experienced a real-seeming False Vision which was deceptive, and intelligently designed to be deceptive by a fallen angel.
When the abductee sees supernatural occurrences during their experience, things that seems to defy the laws of physics, like passing through a wall, or severe injuries that would kill a person but have healed the next morning, technology that not only is unknown but in fact science has so-far concluded does something which is impossible (like a device that makes a wormhole), these are all indicators of a real-seeming False Vision experience.
Also, if the abductee sees other abductees, or military personnel, or humans that are real people who are living today, these could still just be part of a real-seeming False Vision, and is not conclusive proof that the abductee went anywhere, or saw actual other people. A particular John Doe might be a real person, but that an abductee saw John Doe during their abduction experience does not mean that John Doe was involved with the abductee's experience in any way. Some abductees report seeing “Jesus” during their experience, or seeing a dead spouse, yet in neither case was the actual person involved. Just as easily as a fallen angel can cause a False Vision of several aliens, so also can a fallen angel cause a False Vision of human beings, even ones who really exist. There are some documented cases of one abductee seeing another abductee in an experience, and meeting that very person later in their life. In this case it is entirely possible that the fallen angels simply knew that both people were abductees, as the abductions were being caused by these fallen angels, and incorporated this fact into a False Vision, given to one or both abductees. That the people met later in life (like a UFO Conference) could be a coincidence that was merely hoped for by the fallen angel, or it even could be that the abductee was influenced towards the decision to go to this event by the fallen angel.
Once the enormity of the abilities of deception that a fallen angel has at their disposal by use of these methods, sinks in, it becomes very clear just how little of the information gleaned from abductee reports can be assumed to serve as verifiable proof of what is taking place in objective reality. In abductee cases, usually the only thing that can really be accepted as true is that the person really had an “alien abduction experience”. However, very little information can be gathered from the content of that experience. The abductee really did experience an event, but like one can't trust what a channeled demon says to a contactee to be true, one cannot trust what a fallen angel causes an abductee to experience in a False Vision to be true either. It is true that the abductee experienced something, and something truly traumatic, and can need all the understanding of someone who experienced a real trauma, because they have. (And the Bible always records Visions as actual events that happened to the person who experienced the Vision, even though it is specified that the experience was a Vision. The Bible also confirms these events can be truly traumatic, besides in Job 7, also see Dan 8:27 and 7:28.) Yet at the same time the information that can be gathered from the content of a False Vision experience cannot be trusted, as all of it is a purposely designed deception caused by a fallen angel, working in the dark army of Satan who is the father of lies.
In conclusion, Science and Modern Physics seems to allow for the miraculous and miracles, whether caused by God, Holy angels or fallen angels. For Christians, the Bible does establish the kinds of things that fallen angels can do. Taking the Bible as the authoritative Word of God, on faith, there really is no need to question that fallen angels have these abilities. The Bible says fallen angels have these abilities, both of whatever degree of physical effects, and causing False Visions and dreams. Bible-believing Christians should be able to accept that, whether modern science has caught up to the Truth of the Word of God, or not. But the hope with this piece is that you can understand that Science and the Bible do not conflict, as science actually allows for the miraculous to occur, as is recorded in the Bible and seen in miracles God still works today. And as also is seen in the false signs and wonders that happen today, caused by fallen angels. Theories in Science are always changing, in a progressive accumulation of knowledge: they are not truth. Where the Bible and science seem to contradict, I believe the Bible should always be deferred to as Correct and Truth, no matter what science teaches or scientists say.
I've touched on topics involved with big bang theory, quantum mechanics, black holes, worm holes, extra dimensions, and string theory. But I agree with what Russell Grigg, from CMI-Australia has to say on this:
“It has truly been said that Christians married in their thinking to today's science (eg big bang, ten dimensions, etc.) will be widowed tomorrow.”
-Russell M. Grigg M.Sc. (Hons.), Creationist Chemist and Missionary www.creation.com CMI–Australia
That being said, I'm not entirely convinced about any of these theoretical science theories, and my intent here has not been to convince anyone of them. But rather, the aim of this was to use Modern Physics theories to show that science does not contradict or in any way disallow what that Bible teaches is true. The main point of doing this is to show that science does not preclude the existence of miracles of God and of holy angels, and also the false miraculous done by fallen angels. But rather I believe modern science actually completely allows for miracles, and for fallen angels, and their Biblically described abilities.
It is clear that the Bible says fallen angels can do things as are described in “alien abduction” accounts. There is nothing in modern science that contradicts or disproves what the Bible teaches about fallen angels and their abilities. Rather than prove this seemingly supernatural activity is impossible, science actually completely allows for all of this to be possible…
Modern physics shows that God created the universe to leave room for the miraculous to occur, without violating the laws of physics that He set up and maintains. Regarding “alien abduction” experiences, the explanation of fallen angels causing False Visions actually makes far more sense and violates known science and modern science theories far less than the biological extraterrestrial with advanced technology explanation.
In any case, God is infinitely dimensional, without any question, having created all dimensions and everything in them, and as we know, God, in His three persons, can do anything and is All-powerful.
A fallen angel is more powerful than a human. But Jesus Christ is the Son of God, fully God and fully man, and also infinitely dimensional. So Jesus Christ is more powerful than any fallen angel, and even more powerful than all fallen angels combined. This is just another way of looking at what we already know, that Jesus Christ is seated at the right hand of God, with all power, above every other power, principality, authority, above every angel, Holy or fallen.
Angels can only be in one place at once, as we see in Daniel 10. And angels were created by God, as Genesis says,
“God created the heavens and the earth and all the host of them”.
But Jesus Christ is the fullness of the Godhead in human form, and Jesus Christ said “before Abraham was, I AM” , and John tells us “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” , showing Jesus Christ's infinite dimensionality as the Son of God.
And the Bible tells us in Acts 4:10-12,
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
And we see this in abductions stopping in the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ can and does help those who call out to Him for His help, and who have faith in Him and believe upon the power of His Name.
So Jesus Christ is more powerful than fallen angels, in whatever form they take, one example being aliens, no matter how powerful they seem, Jesus Christ is more powerful.
And we also see this in that many other supernatural harassment and attacks stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. So Jesus Christ is more powerful than fallen angels, in whatever form they take, no matter how powerful they seem, Jesus Christ is more powerful. The Bible confirms this in every way, including symbolically.
Insectoid Aliens are said to look like locusts, but the Bible tells us that the locusts will not harm those with the seal of God on their foreheads.
Rev 9:3-11 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads . And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion , when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions , and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.
Theses locusts are like scorpions, But Jesus tells us:
Luke 10:9 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions , and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Reptilian Aliens also look like serpents, but Jesus gives power to us to tread upon scorpions and serpents!
Also, Gray Aliens look like frogs. Both frogs and “gray aliens” are said to have large eyes, a slit mouth, and no nose, 3-4 long webbed fingers, no external genitalia, and to be hairless, be able to absorb through their skin, and have external reproduction means.
Rev 16:13-14 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
But Jesus tells us:
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True , and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God . And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS .
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.”
Jesus Christ the Lord will destroy the enemy, Jesus Christ will win the battle. In all the forms of that the enemy takes, aliens or whatever else, the Bible tells us that all power over the enemy, to defeat the enemy, is in the hands of the Lord Jesus Christ. The victory belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ.