A Modern Guide to Demons and Fallen
Angels
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In Christian circles, there is a debate between different interpretations of Genesis 6:1-4, as to whether the “sons of God” references to the Godly sons of Seth, or if it references to fallen angels. The offspring of these unions between the sons of God and the daughters of men are termed by the Bible as “Nephilim”. They are described as “mighty men of old, men of renown”. Many of those in the camp who believe that the “Nephilim” were fathered by fallen angels, also believe that the Nephilim were not human, but something more akin to demon-people, or demons souls in mortal bodies. And many put forth the idea that when the mortal bodies of the Nephilim died, that their spirits lived on as the demons that are mentioned throughout the rest of the Bible. And of those in this camp, some Christians believe that Nephilim/hybrids may be being born today, believe they are being born today, or may be in the near future. And of them, some use Dan 2:43 to attempt to support this modern Nephilim/hybridization view. This article’s purpose is to address such an interpretation of Dan 2:43, as this passage of scripture is often used by people in
certain circles, to support the idea that modern Nephilim/hybridization is
taking place, or will take place, in the last days before Jesus’ return. "And in that you saw the iron mixed(6151) with common clay, they will combine(6151) with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere(1693) to one another, even as iron does not combine(6151) with pottery." Hebrew, NASB "Whereas thou sawest the iron mixed(4874) with earthenware, they shall be mingled(4874) with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave(4347) together, as the iron does not mix itself with earthenware." Greek, Septuagint In the Hebrew “arab” (6151) "mingle, mix, combine" is only used here in the OT and in Dan 2:41 as "iron mixed with clay" again. The word “arab” is most closely related to another word, “arab” (6148) which means "to traffic as in barter, to give or be security as a kind of exchange". (Strong’s) It also means "have fellowship with or share in". (BDB) In the Greek, "mixed” and “mingled" are the same word (4874) which means to "associate with or have company with". These words do not refer to sexual interaction. In the Hebrew “debaq” (1693) "cleave, adhere" is used only here, but is related to the more usual word “dabaq” (1692) which is very similar, and is used in Genesis as "cleave unto his wife". In the Greek “cleave” is (4347) "pros-kollao", and is used several times in the New Testament. It means "to glue upon, stick to, join oneself to closely". In Eph 5:31, Matt 19:5, and Mk 10:7, the term “pros-kollao” is used as “join” or “cleave” in the phrase, “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh." Because this "cleaving" of man and wife might seem ambiguous as to whether sex is implied, or some more purely spiritual joining or marriage, I want to point out that the root and usual form of "pros-kollao" is (2853) "kollao", which like “pros-kollao”, also means "to glue, join, or fasten firmly together, to cleave". Here is a clear Greek usage for (2853) "kollao" in the NT: 1 Cor 6:15-16 "Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make [them] the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined(2853) to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh." The word “pros” (4314) in composition means “direction or motion to a goal”. So (4347) "pros-kollao" literally can mean “towards sex” and can be referencing to sex as much as (2853) "kollao" which contextually means to join sexually. "Cleaving" and "joining" can therefore mean sexual interaction. Now that these terms in Dan 2:43 have been defined in the Hebrew and Greek, lets just clarify and re-examine this verse in the Hebrew and the Greek, based on these words more detailed meanings. "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed(6151) with miry clay, they shall "traffic as in barter, give or be security as a kind of exchange, have fellowship with or share in"(6151) themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not "cleave or join sexually" (1693) one to another, even as iron is not mixed(6151) with clay." Hebrew, KJV "Whereas thou sawest the iron mixed(4874) with earthenware, they shall "associate with or have company"(4874) with the seed of men: but they shall not "cleave or join sexually"(4347) together, as the iron does not mix itself with earthenware." Greek, Septuagint
While
I do not believe it is the case (see
my accompanying article here ),
let's just assume for the sake or argument that the "they" and "them" in Dan
2:43 really is talking about fallen angels in the first place, as other
Christians have proposed… One meaning of the phrase "seed of men" is the children of men, generations, or just plainly, humans. I've heard of many “alien abduction” accounts in which people describe they had sex with “aliens”, and usually they are cases of rape, besides all the accounts of sexual molestation. I have also heard cases of incubus and succubus attacks that are similar in the sexual violation, by often invisible spiritual entities. Along with these accounts, are those accounts of people who have stopped these experiences in the name and authority of Jesus Christ, which demonstrates these experiences are caused by evil spiritual beings, or fallen angels. That being the case, if these modern days are the last
days, then how can Dan 2:43 mean that fallen angels will mingle with humans, but
not join sexually? As cleaving here means a sexual joining, then the scripture
would contradict reality if the scripture was claiming that fallen angels won't
have sexual interactions with people- because they do. Multiple alien abduction,
incubus and succubus accounts confirm this. But I don't think that is what the verse is saying. I think the verse is referring not to fallen angels mingling/trafficking with humans themselves, but rather, that the fallen angels are mingling/trafficking with the reproductive "seed" of men. Let's look at the verse again: "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed (2234) of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay." –KJV If “they” are assumed to be fallen angels, then "seed" here
must have an unusual meaning, and cannot just mean “humans”. The word for "seed"
(2234) above in Hebrew is only used here in the entire Old Testament. As such, what Dan 2:43 really would say - is that fallen
angels will traffic/mingle with the "seed of men" in a more "reproductive
component" sense (eggs/sperm), but that the fallen angels will NOT sexually join
themselves to the "seed of men" (eggs/sperm). So as ironic as it is, the main verse that some Christians
have been using to show that there would be hybrids in the end times, I think
actually would prove that there will be no hybrids, and that is assuming this
verse is even applicable. (I do not actually believe it is applicable.) The
meaning becomes clear when this verse is actually studied in the Hebrew and
Greek with more than a cursory glance.
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